The Illinois filing deadline for presidential primary petitions was January 6. Six Democrats filed, and eleven Republicans filed. No Illinois Republican presidential primary has ever had more than nine candidates.
The Democrats are: Hillary Clinton, Larry Cohen, Rocky De La Fuente, Martin O’Malley, Bernie Sanders, and Willie Wilson.
The Republicans are: Jeb Bush, Ben Carson, Chris Christie, Ted Cruz, Carly Fiorina, Mike Huckabee, John Kasich, Rand Paul, Marco Rubio, Rick Santorum, and Donald Trump.
By the end of January 6, someone had already challenged the petition for Ted Cruz. Because the objector could not have had enough time to scrutinize the petition, chances are the objection relates to whether Cruz meets the qualifications to be President.
The deadline for other challenges is January 13.
FYI. there are twenty-seven possible combinations of mother’s nativity, father’s nativity, and place of birth. Each parent’s nativity can be either citizen, non-citizen, or unknown, and place of birth can be either in-country, foreign, or unknown. For example, John McCain’s combination was citizen/citizen/foreign. Ted Cruz’s is citizen/non-citizen/foreign, Marco Rubio’s and Bobby Jindal’s are both non-citizen/non-citizen/in-country. Rick Santorum’s is citizen/non-citizen/in-country. A child born of a rape victim could be citizen/unknown/in-country. An abandoned child found in a basket would be unknown/unknown/unknown which, given Barack Obama’s obviously fake birth certificate, is probably the best way to describe his nativity. Like his fake SSN, there could be any number of combinations. Looking at it like this certainly puts this issue in perspective. There can only be ONE combination for a natural born citizen which, by etymology, uses natural law and not man’s law. A natural born citizen is one who’s nativity is unquestionable, and that combo is citizen/citizen/in-country.
McCain had other issues, viz.,
born out of wedlock in a hospital not in the Canal Zone,but in the Republic of Panama, to a mother at his birth who was not employed.
Jeff; At one point I thought the same as you. However, the most recent interpretations have been that only one parent needs to be a citizen at time of birth and that birth can take place anywhere in the world. It is totally unsettled law at this point in time. The intent of the constitution of “natural born” is completely blank! Congress has changed its mind at least 6-7 times on this. I have to concede that even Obama is “natural born” by current standards even though he says he was born in Kenya, and so has his wife. His mother was a citizen and by current standards, that’s all that matters even though his Hawaii birth certificate is a 9 layer photo-shopped fake!
DNA shows Dunham not the mother according to Mike Shrimpton
I understand that Ted Cruz was born in that portion of Calgory, Canada within the “watershed of the Elbow River.”
John McCain III was born in a hospital in the Republic of Panama out of wedlock. He was
not born on a military base nor
in the Panama Canal Zone.
If a U. S. Citizen gives birth
to a child out of weďlock in the Repubic of Panama, the mother has an additional requirement that takes place in
no other nation in the world, viz., she has to be employed at the time of birth by the U. S.
Government or the Panama Railroad Company. This has been
the law since 1937.
Jeff is 100% spot on. While the intent of the constitution of “natural born” is completely blank, that’s only to those that haven’t studied what our Founders had in mind in writing Article 2, Section 1, Claus 5 – that the president or vp MUST be a Natural Born Citizen (or citizen at the time of adoption of Constitution). NBC wasn’t defined because our founders already knew the definition, and that was taken from Vattels Law of Nations (section 212). Congress can ONLY have say in regards to naturalization – which is what both Cruz & Obama fall into by having only 1 US Citizen parent. They have foreign allegiances to Cuba, Canada (Cruz) and Kenya/British (Obama) because of the fathers). By having only 1 US Citizen parent, they get citizenship, that’s it. In regards to Cruz, his mother would have been required to file a CRBA (Consulate Report of Birth Abroad) – no where to be seen. Also Delaware can’t find his Mother’s birth certificate on file at all. Let’s add that both of Cruz’s parents renounced US Citizenship when they became Canadian citizens prior to Ted’s birth – he can be Prime Minister. Both Cruz & Obama are NOT natural born citizens as they do not meat the natural law of NBC requirements. SCOTUS has ruled on these matters albeit not currently but decades ago and used Vattels definition. Look up Minor vs Happersatt for starters. Most current ruling would be Montana vs Kennedy which is identical to Cruz’s case. NO Ted Cruz is not a Natural Born citizen and neither are Obama, Rubio & Jindal. Cdr Charles Kerchner & Maria Puzo have done extensive research on this as well as others. (protectourliberty.org and puzo1.blogspot.com) By allowing Cruz to run would be no different than a Head member of ISIS marry or rape for that matter, a US Citizen woman and her giving birth. That child could then be potus and that is EXACTLY what our Founders warned us about, as in John Jay’s letter to George Washington.
Many pundits and even Harvard Law Review bring up the Naturalization Act of 1790 as their fodder. However that act was repealed in 1795 and replaced when they realized the erroneous error & removed “natural born citizen” from the text.
If it was a done issue, WHY then has Congress tried 8 unsuccessful times (since 2008 by the way) to change the definition of NBC? Also for McCain, he wasn’t born on base, he was born in Colon, Panama (outside the zone). Congress shoved thru a non-binding resolution to make him NBC however illegally as NBC is natures law a caveat Congress can’t change.
Ted Cruz was born in a foreign country to a foreign father (Cruz’s father was a Cuban citizen) and the Naturalization Act of 1790 clearly states the following
In 1790, the Congress answered the question about Natural Born Citizens with the Naturalization Act. The Act reads in part:
And the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond Sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born Citizens: Provided, that the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident in the United States.
There is the definition right there. Children born abroad whose PARENTS are United States citizens and whose fathers have been resident (meaning a CITIZEN) in the United States are considered natural born citizens. Where does it state anywhere that it’s the citizenship of either parent? It doesn’t.
Was Ted Cruz’s PARENTS, United States Citizens? NO! Was Ted Cruz’s father a United States Citizen? NO!
Here is how Rep. John Bingham (Father of the 14th Amendment) explained “natural born citizenship” on the floor of the House on March 9, 1866:
“I find no fault with the introductory clause [S 61 Bill], which is simply declaratory of what is written in the Constitution, that every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen….”
More from John Bingham;
During a debate (see pg. 2791) regarding a certain Dr. Houard, who had been incarcerated in Spain, the issue was raised on the floor of the House of Representatives as to whether the man was a US citizen. Representative Bingham (of Ohio), stated on the floor:
“As to the question of citizenship I am willing to resolve all doubts in favor of a citizen of the United States. That Dr. Houard is a natural-born citizen of the United States there is not room for the shadow of a doubt. He was born of naturalized parents within the jurisdiction of the United States, and by the express words of the Constitution, as amended to-day, he is declared to all the world to be a citizen of the United States by birth.” (The term “to-day”, as used by Bingham, means “to date”. Obviously, the Constitution had not been amended on April 25, 1872.)
Notice that Bingham declares Houard to be a “natural-born citizen” by citing two factors – born of citizen parents in the US.
John Bingham, aka “father of the 14th Amendment”, was an abolitionist congressman from Ohio who prosecuted Lincoln’s assassins. Ten years earlier, he stated on the House floor:
“All from other lands, who by the terms of [congressional] laws and a compliance with their provisions become naturalized, are adopted citizens of the United States; all other persons born within the Republic, of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty, are natural born citizens. Gentleman can find no exception to this statement touching natural-born citizens except what is said in the Constitution relating to Indians.” (Cong. Globe, 37th, 2nd Sess., 1639 (1862))
Then in 1866, Bingham also stated on the House floor:
“Every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen.” (Cong. Globe, 39th, 1st Sess., 1291 (1866))
The Unites States Constitution states the following;
Article. II.
Section. 1.
No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
Mel Brooks was prescient.
“The sheriff is a ni…”
NBC = At birth ALLEGIANCE to a regime.
naturalized = After birth change of ALLEGIANCE to a regime.
See the last para of the DOI.
TOTAL male dominance in 1776-1787.
ALLEGIANCE via fathers.
Too many legal history MORONS to count in the U.S.A. since 1776 — esp. the SCOTUS robot party HACKS.
more –
14th Amdt, Sec. 1
*subject to the jurisdiction thereof* =
having ALLEGIANCE to the U.S.A. regime.
Does NOT include kids physically born in the USA having FOREIGN fathers.
Even American Indians were deemed FOREIGN folks — took 2 Congress Acts in 1924 and 1940 to naturalize the surviving American Indians to make them U.S.A. Citizens.
Too many M-O-R-O-N-S to count in the USA due to the nonstop dumbing down due to*politically correct* stuff since the 1930s.
How many seconds before Civil WAR II start when leftwing Clinton and/or rightwing Trump open their statist control freak mouths ???
The 1940 act did not become effect until January 13, 1941.
McCain was born out of wedlock in a hospital in the Republic of Panama in 1936. The collective naturalization act of 1937 did not apply to him,
because of the out of wedlock
birth in 1936 birth in the Republic of Panama, outside the
Canal Zone. Bogus marriage took
place in a bar in TJ in Baja California, Mexico. Same style bogus marriage as Ike & Tina Turner. Bottom line John McCain
III is not a U. S. Citizen.
Who filed the objection? My money’s on it was Sharon Meroni.
Sorry folks, Cruz is eligible. You all make it too complicated and convoluted. Born to a citizen. Doesn’t matter what was the citizenship of the father or where. He was a citizen at birth = natural born citizen, thus eligible.
If your definition is different from what’s widely accepted, don’t vote for him.
The objection was filed by Lawrence J. Joyce of Poplar Grove, Illinois. But five other people have looked at the Cruz petitions.
“No gol blammit, the sheriff is a NI…!”
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/01/08/ted-cruz-mother-birth-certificate/
The father-mother stuff with different citizenships can obviously lead to alleged dual citizenships of the kids involved.
What happens if there is a WAR between the nations involved ??? — both claiming the ALLEGIANCE of the kids involved.
What about Art. III, Sec. 2 — USA/State citizens and foreign citizen cases.
Too many M-O-R-O-N-S involved in NBC stuff.
The NBC language for Prez was obviously added to avoid a Prez having ANY foreign ALLEGIANCE connection — obviously due to a Prez being the CIC of the USA armed forces.
See 20th Amdt, Sec. 3 — a person may NOT be qualified to be Prez.
How many States have court cases DIS-qualifying executive / judicial candidates from getting on electon ballots for State/local offices ???
Special qualification stuff for legislative bodies for history reasons — the EVIL rotted Brit monarchs trying to control who got elected to the Brit House of Commons in the 1200s-1600s.
e.g. see USA Const Art. I, Sec. 5 (copied from and into most/all State Consts).