Joe Mathews says Realistically, Turnout under California Top-Two System is Very Poor

Joe Mathews has this column on California voter turnout at Fox and Hounds. He says that if one conceives of the June event in California as the general election, and then one compares it to past general elections, the top-two system has severely injured voter turnout.


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Joe Mathews says Realistically, Turnout under California Top-Two System is Very Poor — 9 Comments

  1. Our “elected coaches” with the United Coalition California haven’t done a good enough job and so the excitement about the unity phenema that’s sweeping the world was never known by the voters.

    It is the great feeling and satisfaction waiting for the voters about working together with the whole under pure proportional representation (PPR), where many multiples of names and decision items, the fairness, inclusion and even a bit of anarchy and chose that our team brings that gets censored by pluralist-elected party bosses that results in the censorship by them, the road blocks by them, and the vicious bullying that snuffs out success.

    Top two is a slight improvement because it is a three-party voting system, where any candidate can win with 33.33% of the votes (plus one vote).

    But the nature of pluralist party bosses is the not work together but to seek a single-winner district power grab where it is acceptable to proclaim by conceited egomaniacs, that they alone and that their party alone, is correct.

    Simply by promoting unity, then any candidate can have a better chance of attracting votes from the 100%, enough to attain 33.33%, but the political parties are beating down, censoring and snuffing out cooperation.

    In cases where there are more candidates than three, the 33.33% threshold gets randomly lowered because of the split vote problem.

    But many political activists and political parties want to proclaim unity without bothering to use the correct procedures so people will buy in: paper ballots, transparency, equal free speech time and equal treatment.

    The United Coalition USA has been demonstrating the correct mathematics since 1992 when Mike Ossipoff (Peace and Freedom) provided our team with the correct math for the Sainte-Lague parliament seat distribution system, the Hagenbach-Bishoff quota.

    Sure the NFL can bring their “top 100”, google can copy our name, the California Green Party can select cross nominees in biased and exclusionary tactics, and others like Clint Eastwood got their ideas from our work, but these efforts are no good unless the unifying math is correct.

    As soon as the pluralist party bosses grow humble and realise their party and candidates cannot win alone but only by hard work, collaboration and stacks of paper ballots as proof, then our team can get the publicity traits needed.

    So we can only blame ourselves, not the top two voting system, because the unity phenomena can be a powerful organising tool and nothing can stop an idea whose time has come.

    Sign up with the United Coalition USA, work hard to carry your load for fair political cooperation and political teamwork that makes sense, only possible with PPR:

    http://www.usparliament.org/signup.php

  2. I must add that the bullying by the party bosses has been particularly evil in the way female candidates have been treated by the party bosses.

    We see chauvinistic males, treating women poorly, depicting female candidates in vile nude images with the candidate’s face.

    Chelene Nightingale ]Constitution] for CA Gov by the bullies at Independent Political Report, Roseanne Barr [Green Tea] being degraded by national Libertarian Party Chair, Tiffany Briscoe [Boston Tea] unfairly slandered, disbanded as nominee, when she did in fact get her college degree despite now Libertarian boss Darryl Perry saying she did not, and the treatment by Joy Waymire [Anarchist] (RIP), who was continually slandered, while I know she was an incredibly awesome person and asset to our team.

    We have an urgent situation with female candidates, the few there are, and that’s why the United Coalition USA has determined this to be an emergency situation for female candidates under pluralism.

    The United Coalition UDA should make voting for our opposite gender #1 as a high priority item on our platform.

    The damage plurality elections cause to the fairer gender must be stopped at all costs, with high priority here, and our team wants a 50/50 partnership with women by prohibiting single-winner districts which destroy gender unity.

    The big deal against top two had been a big deal against women, against female candidates, because only with two winners can both genders be possibly represented.

    The party bosses, the make ones in particular, need to be held accountable.

    The only acceptable resolution for them is to show teamwork in higher levels, voting and supporting our opposite gender before our own, and nothing less.

  3. Turnout as a percentage of eligible voters was the highest for a mid-term primary this millennium.

  4. Great news from Jim if it’s correct. One two-winner district is acceptable.

    The United Coalition wants to prohibit all single winner districts for being undemocratic.

    But we aren’t doing a good enough job.

  5. Primary turnout a bit higher due to new State Guv coming — ie new tyrant *leader* ???

  6. @DR,

    Turnout was up 60% over 2014. This was an all-time high in terms of votes cast in a California primary.

    Joe Mathews used “a tick” to deceive his readers. Richard Winger in the past has blamed Top 2 for the very low turnout in 2014. More thoughtful readers have suggested that the low turnout was due to lack of a Senate contest and lackluster gubernatorial contest as Old Man Brown won his final term.

    In 2010, there was a senatorial race, and Meg-a-millions Whitman was dumping money into her gubernatorial race.

    In 2018, San Francisco was up 99%, in part due to the special mayoral election. Los Angeles was up 81% and Orange was up 87%, likely in part to the gubernatorial and senatorial contest Villaraigosa and De Leon are both from LA. Turnout was likely up to the attention paid to the congressional races in Southern California, and the recall election for Josh Newman. The increase in votes cast was a higher gain in areas near more urban centers, where voters may be unaware that there are elections being held.

    Marin was only up 44%, despite Newsom coming from Ross.

  7. Due to the monarchy infection into the USA — especially since 1898 Spanish American War —

    many voters ONLY care about having ALL powerful monarchs —

    USA Prezs, State Guvs, City mayors —

    more and more contempt for the various minority rule gerrymander legislative bodies —

    full of special interest gangster HACK oligarchs.

    Deja Vu —

    like the END of the Roman Republic in 120 BC – 27 BC —
    various personality cults for various gang leaders and many Roman civil wars / purges —
    esp KILLER Julius Caesar gang and KILLER Augustus Caesar gang.

    PR and AppV

  8. The top 2 primary turnout has ALWAYS been worse than the general election turnout —

    special interest gangs picking which HACKS get on the general election ballots.

    NO primaries.

    PR and AppV

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