1. I suspect the ASP may be on it’s way to surpassing the Constitution Party as America’s fifth party, depending on whether the Alliance Party or Peoples’ Party again traction.

2. I suspect people can find a tally of this pretty quickly but I think that the Constitution Party is still solidly in 5th for having access in the most states. So even if the Constitution Party has seemingly been less active since Trump, they have some structural advantages as long as the places where the state parties are in a dispute with the national party don’t flip to affiliate with another party.

   The write-in showings for Carroll in quite a few states have been pretty impressive considering the newness of the party. Not sure how many (if any) extra states where the ASP could have petitioned their way onto the ballot this year if not for the whole pandemic and it’s impact on petitioning.

3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_presidential_election

   Mere 17,500,871 total Prez votes in RED commie CA

   Do the PCT math if bored.

   Voters had same names as candidates ???

4. 5th place? Maybe, assuming:

   (a) No distinction exists between claims of access by the national CP (nominal at best), and actual access (real). And,

   (b) No distinction is made between “ballot qualified” real state parties and ephemeral short shelf life “ballot access” under increasingly expensive “Independent” petition chases of pretend state parties each cycle.

   National CP’s former chairman [statement on IPR] said the national CP had votes in 18 states. That is at variance with their “access” map, but I quibble.

   I agree with Liberty Green’s comment above.

5. Do you have a source? This count for Brian is lower than what I got looking at results on county websites.

6. From Dave Liep’s Election Atlas, the vote totals now (with most of the states reporting) is:
   JoJo 1.8 million
   Hawkins 404k
   De La Fuente: 88k (60k from California, with Kanye as VP)
   La Riva: 85k (51k from California)
   West: 70k
   Blankenship: 60k
   Pierce: 50k (22k from New York)
   Carroll: 38k

   So, I think it is fair to say that the Constitution Party still has an edge in terms of their ballot access team. But it does seem that the ASP is on an upwards trajectory, while the Constitution is in a decline.

7. Blankenship only got 25 write-in votes from his home state and three of those were from his own county (Mingo) thus himself and his family. So he only got 22 votes from non-family voters. Putting this in perspective, Howard Phillips got 23 write-ins in WV in 2000 which was four years before the party was even formally organized here. Also, only two write-ins from counties where the CPWV has officers. None from Berkeley (ex-officio past Chair), Gilmer (ex-officio past Chair), Kanawha (Secretary), Lewis (Treasurer), Mineral (Vice Chair), or Randolph (ex-officio past Chair).

8. I did a write-in for President vote this time (for Blakenship). Might start doing that in the future even though I usually have voted a third party candidate that was on the ballot. Why not? Sometimes the write-in candidates are better qualified than the ones listed on the ballot. In addition, I always get an absentee ballot so I can view each candidate (including write-ins) and visit each candidates website or Facebook page to see their qualifications and positions.

9. Blankenship being a terrible candidate has something to do with his poor showing. They might as well have just nominated Trump.

10. Unless it was another Jim Riley, Jim Riley was not the source.

11. Things that surprised me about 2020 write-in candidates:

    1. Jade Simmons and her running mate Claudeliah J. Roze failed to get registered as write-ins in Texas despite that being their home state (for both of them!) and despite having success in becoming write-ins in several dozen states across the country and their success in getting on the ballot in neighboring Louisiana and Oklahoma.

    2. Thomas Hoefling and Joseph Schriner failed to get registered as write-ins in Georgia even though they announced their intentions to run this year in the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. Hoefling filed successfully in a bunch of other states both in 2020 and 2016.

    3. Gloria La Riva failed to get registered as a write-in in Connecticut even though her September 21, 2020 press release claimed “She is an official write-in candidate in Connecticut” among other states. She succeeded in most of the other states she filed in.

    4. Connecticut resident Jeffrey J. Klojzy, Jr. didn’t get even one write-in vote in 2020 in his home state even though he registered to become one. So he didn’t vote for himself and nobody he knows did either. He did get 6 write-in votes in the 2016 presidential race.

    5. Connecticut resident Karynn Krill Weinstein, who filed as a write-in candidates only in CT, had a campaign website up around September or earlier (which had been cached by Google) but it was taken offline by late October. She ended up only receiving 1 vote.

    6. Kanye West didn’t register as a write-in option in any states other than Delaware prior to my contacting his campaign on October 9th to tell them that write-ins wouldn’t be counted in the absence of registration, after which he registered as a write-in everywhere he could (Maryland, Connecticut, New York, and more). Kanye missed earlier filing deadlines in important states like Florida, Illinois, Texas, and Arizona.

12. Some states are more stringent about checking write-in filings. In Texas, all filings with a single candidate were rejected. I suspect that those with two candidates that were rejected failed to name 38 electors.

    The electors for Shane Howard in Kentucky, Minnesota, and Florida were the same. Or rather all 8 electors in Kentucky were among the 10 electors in Minnesota, and all 10 in Minnesota were among the 29 in Florida. Howard only had 5 electors in Indiana, but Indiana lists town of all electors, and included the town and (out-of) state for the Howard electors.

13. Your numbers are a little bit off. I see:
    Brian Carroll: 2,605
    Jesse Ventura: 611
    Mark Charles: 559
    Brock Pierce: 185
    Joseph Kishore: 121

    https://elections.cdn.sos.ca.gov/sov/2020-general/sov/complete-sov.pdf

14. “I suspect the ASP may be on it’s way to surpassing the Constitution Party as America’s fifth party, depending on whether the Alliance Party or Peoples’ Party again traction.”
    -I don’t see that happening for two reasons: 1) 60,000 of the votes that Rocky Fuente received was from California and many of those votes were because Kanye West was the VP nominee in that state. 2)Many of the CP members who supported Trump are likely going to return to the fold. Jim Clymer will likely be able to convince some of the renegade state parties to support the 2024 nominee. I don’t foresee the CP making the same blunder of selecting someone like Don Blankenship again (whether he is innocent or not of the charges against him, his name is linked to that mining disaster).

15. Folks in the CP assumed that Don Blankenship, who has a net worth of $40 million, was going to throw some of his own money into the race and give them a boost. He ended up barely spending any of his own money on the race, and he did not really do much campaigning.

16. My personal count:

    Jorgensen 1,862,222 – 1.17%
    Hawkins 404,151 – 0.25%

    Rocky 88,238 – 0.056%
    La Riva 85,489 – 0.054%
    Kanye 70,490 – 0.044%
    Blankenship 60,068 – 0.038%
    Pierce 49,771 – 0.031%
    Carroll 38,628 – 0.024%

    Jade Simmons 6,968
    Alyson Kennedy 6,791
    Brian Hammons 6,648
    Jerome Segal 5,949
    Dario Hunter 5,404

    That’s everyone over 5k.

    About a third of Carroll’s votes are write-ins counted from 17 states, which I take as a representation of strong grassroots strength. Comparing their vote counts where they had ballot access to those of Rocky and La Riva, you can make a credible theoretical case the American Solidarity Party is a stronger party organizationally than the Alliance Party’s network of affiliates or the Party for Socialism & Liberation.

17. What source do you have that Carroll and Kishore were running as a party ticket and not Independent to make CA Elections Code 13205(d) relevant in the November 3, Election?

    We know that all California Countries failed to place the wording required under AB623 within CA Elections Code 13205(c). Therefore was CA Elections Code 13205(d) also violated by all 58 County ROV’s?

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