The Tea Party is in the process of qualifying a U.S. Senate candidate for the Nevada ballot in 2010. See this story from the Las Vegas Sun. The candidate will be Jon Ashjian, a businessman whose company is TNT Energy Projects. There are two methods for a new party to place candidates on the Nevada ballot. The Tea Party will use the easier method. First it filed a list of its officers and a copy of its bylaws with the Secretary of State. Second, it soon will file a petition signed by 250 registered voters to place Ashjian on the November ballot. If Ashjian polls at least 1%, the Tea Party will then be a qualified party for 2012.
IDIOTS! They need to go through the Independent American Party, THE Tea Party of Nevada! What the Hell is wrong with them?!
I’m still trying too figure out what the Tea Parties stand for, and how many of them there are, and when the’re going to get a life. I actually don’t believe the tea partiers have a cohesive message at all. They don’t like Obama. We know that. But what else? I think new parties and independent candidacies arise when candidates want to run for office but keep getting rejected by established parties. Why start a new party? Why not join the LP, or, if you’re religious, the CP?
# Cody Quirk Says:
February 14th, 2010 at 1:10 am
“They need to go through the Independent American Party, THE Tea Party of Nevada! What the Hell is wrong with them?”
Well, maybe reactionaries like you and Doctor Donald J. Grundmann scare reasonable folks away …………
Yes, the Tea Party movement has sadly now been co-opted by the Republican establishment. It will be used to fragment the independent/third/alternative vote even further. IT IS CALLED DIVIDE AND CONQUER PEOPLE! WAKE UP NOW! STOP LETTING YOURSELVES BE MANIPULATED BY THE THE POWER ELITES! Generally speaking, it is clear we don’t need any new political parties. That will only lead to further fragmentation. We need to strengthen the existing opposition.
TEA= Taxed Enough Already? The movement originally had nothing to do with social/moral issues. Add those in plus foreign policy issues and bingo… the whole movement fragments and becomes irrelevent. Rather like the Perot independent candidacy in ’92. Many folks agree on taxation and spending issues. Bring on the rest of the list and it all falls apart. I don’t believe it is an accident. Too bad.
Why don’t they just join the Libertarian Party?
The Constitution Party is another possibility.
Yes, the Tea Party movement has sadly now been co-opted by the Republican establishment. It will be used to fragment the independent/third/alternative vote even further. IT IS CALLED DIVIDE AND CONQUER PEOPLE! WAKE UP NOW! STOP LETTING YOURSELVES BE MANIPULATED BY THE THE POWER ELITES! Generally speaking, it is clear we don’t need any new political parties. That will only lead to further fragmentation. We need to strengthen the existing opposition.
= Exactely!
Well, maybe reactionaries like you and Doctor Donald J. Grundmann scare reasonable folks away …………
=Don may, but I don’t, and hundreds of registered voters are joining the IAP every month.
Senator Harry Reid must be celebrating this news, since almost all of the Tea Party’s votes will come out of the hide of the Republican nominee.
There are two Senate caucuses– the Democrats and the Republicans– and someone should ask Mr. Ashjian which one he’ll join if he’s elected. If he picks one, the next question is, “Why aren’t you running under that party label?”
If Ashjian intends to join neither caucus, he’ll have little effectiveness as a senator.
But he’s not running to win… he’s running to help get a new party established. In the process, he could help Senator Reid get re-elected.
Then why is he doing that when he and his associates could simply join with the Independent American Party?
Fragmented indeed. Wait till they try to get on ballot in Ohio. It was the Libertarian Party and it’s heavy lifting that got other smaller parties on the OHio ballot. And now other “johnny come lately” folks want to start another party.
Yes, it will fragment the vote.
LP, CP, Reform Party, and now a Tea Party.
Do they have ANY clue how hard it is to manage and grow a minor party? I don’t think so.
http://www.lpo.org It took us 6 years to get to this point and two federal court cases for ballot access.
“Cody Quirk Says:
February 14th, 2010 at 1:10 am
IDIOTS! They need to go through the Independent American Party, THE Tea Party of Nevada! What the Hell is wrong with them?!”
The Libertarian Party of Nevada has got a better claim on the Tea Party since it was Libertarians who started the Tea Party movement and since the Libertarian Party is the most anti-tax party that there is.
Hi,
In the article it also states that there is a Reform Party candidate. Does anybody know who this is?
Here’s an idea! Tea Partiers should all move to Nevada until there are enough of them to vote the state back into territorial status. Citizens of US Territories can’t vote in Federal elections and don’t pay Federal taxes (apart from Medicare and Social Security, which I’m sure all those old Tea Party followers wouldn’t want to give up anyway despite their abhorrence of “socialized” government).
Even as it stands at present, Nevada does not levy a State personal, business or corporate income tax. And the legislature is hardly ever in session–the 75th regular session ended in June, 2009, and the 76th session doesn’t begin until February 2011.
Plus, territories control their own immigration and border matters, which should make the xenophobes in the Tea Party even happier!
Win-win!
And Nevada Territory could join New Hamp Shire and Green Mountain [Vermont] in the long over due demise of the fascist, imperial global American Empire ………..
Morons! These guys have hijacked the sentiment of the Tea Party for personal gain and ego. The Tea Party movement (TPM) is a general agglomeration of folks who are just fed up with the way our government works. The catalyst has been the Internet and alternative media where people have discovered they are not alone in their disgust and are not going to take it anymore. Everyone comes with their own pet themes: abortion, gun control, strict interpretation of the Constitution, the role of religion in government, campaign funding, illegal immigration, school choice, etc. And there are people on both sides of all those issues who are involved. The one set of themes that everyone seems to agree on is: lower taxation, cut government spending, smaller central government, more transparency and the elimination of graft, corruption and theft.
There are also those who seek to capitalize on the movement, from the smarmy politician who, despite his record, swears to embrace the movement; to the shameless promoters who organize high-priced events for fun and profit (their own).
What I hope is that the TPM evolves into a modern day Christian Woman’s Temperance Union. However misguided they were, they managed to get a Constitutional Amendment passed (the 18th [1917], repealed by the 21st [1933]), BEFORE women even had the right to vote (by the 19th in 1918).
I would wholeheartedly support a TPM dedicated to the passage of a Federal Balanced Budget Amendment and a complete repeal of the 16th Amendment (Income Tax) to be replaced by a plan more like the one proposed by Rep. Paul Ryan: http://www.roadmap.republicans.budget.house.gov/Issues/Issue/?IssueID=8514
If the TPM would just concentrate on those issues, which most people agree on, and eschew getting involved in the social and other ancillary issues, they could do a lot of good and attract a lot of support across party lines.
If the TPM gets carried away and tries to challenge the Republican Party there will be a disaster like Perot did to GHW Bush and Nader did to Al Gore. With the model I describe above, Republicans can endorse the TPM Pledge, as can Democrats, Independents, Libertarians, Greens, Bull Moosees, etc.
The Prohibition Party is just as responsible, if not more so, for the 18th amendment, than the WCTU. The constitutional amendment for prohibition had been introduced in every session of Congress starting in 1875 and had never made any headway, until 1917, when Congress passed it. Republicans in Congress decided to pass it so as to take the steam out of the Prohibition Party, which had cost the Republicans the presidency in 1916 as well as 1884. Hughes would have beat Wilson in 1916 except that the Prohibition presidential nominee, J. Frank Hanly, a former Republican Governor of Indiana, swung California to Wilson.
NV allows constitutional amendments via initiative and referendum.
So here’s what you do if you want viable “third parties” in NV:
1. Elect one house of the legislature by PR. If you actually have one or more party members voting on budgets and stuff people will take you seriously. Instead of as a source of amusement.
2. Elect major executive offices, US Senate and US House by two-round majority (i.e. runoff) elections. Eliminates the spoiler effect. Don’t go for instant runoff-it just reinforces two-party domination.
Sources:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duverger%27s_law
http://rangevoting.org/HonestRunoff.html
Perhaps the Tea Party folks will have some brains and actually do some proper ballot access cases (screwed up since 1968) and gerrymander cases (screwed up since 1964) ???
#19: “Elect major executive offices, US Senate and US House by two-round majority (i.e. runoff) elections.”
That would be detrimental to third party and independent candidates, as the final two candidates would almost always be (1) a Republican and a Democrat, (2) two Republicans, OR (3) two Democrats.
#17: “… a Federal Balanced Budget Amendment and a complete repeal of the 16th Amendment (Income Tax)…”
I agree with you on the 16th Amendment. However, if a balanced budget amendment were ratified, a future big-spending Congress might use that as an excuse to raise taxes, rather than cutting spending.
The Tea Partiers should, in my view, work to help conservatives regain and keep control of the Republican Party. If the Tea Partiers mount third party or independent efforts, they’ll mainly be helping the Democrats.
I learned a new word. “Agglomeration” is synonymous with “conglomeration.”
I note that Chelene Nightingale website has a connect with the Tea Party. Mrs. Nightingale was
registered to vote in California in 2009 as a
Republican. She was “flagged” by the Los Angeles
County Registrar of Voters circa January 4, 2010.
Is this a move on the part on Nightingale’s backers
in the “Tea Party”, viz., RINO’s that want to distroy the IAP of Nevada as the RINO’s are trying to Hijack the AIP in California?
Sincerely, Mark Seidenberg, Vice Chairman, American
Independent Party
#21 That would be detrimental to third party and independent candidates, as the final two candidates would almost always be (1) a Republican and a Democrat, (2) two Republicans, OR (3) two Democrats.
That would tend to change if minor parties get elected to the legislature by PR. This would give them enhanced credibility and more press coverage. The current system
leads to disasters like the 2000 election. If all states had had a two-round system Nader would have got a much bigger vote in the first round and Gore would have beaten Bush in the second round. Both parties would have made overtures to Nader voters between the first and second rounds.
From the rangevoting.org link shown above:
(…)
IRV leads to stifling 2-party domination, whereas delayed runoff encourages the formation of many stable political parties, offering voters more choices. Why does that happen? Regardless of why that is, it is hard to dispute: all the IRV countries listed above are 2-party dominated in their IRV seats, whereas 21-23 of the delayed runoff countries listed above have multiparties. And this is true despite the fact most of these delayed-runoff countries have strong presidents (unlike the IRV countries), a factor that normally would enhance 2-party-domination. Is the goal of that pro-IRV group we alluded to, to destroy USA’s third parties?
(…)
I note that Chelene Nightingale website has a connect with the Tea Party. Mrs. Nightingale was
registered to vote in California in 2009 as a
Republican. She was “flagged†by the Los Angeles
County Registrar of Voters circa January 4, 2010.
Is this a move on the part on Nightingale’s backers
in the “Tea Partyâ€, viz., RINO’s that want to distroy the IAP of Nevada as the RINO’s are trying to Hijack the AIP in California?
= The Tea Party link on her page is related to the organization that’s been holding all the protest rallies since 2009, not to the group in Vegas that’s trying to get on the ballot.
Your allegation is almost as laughable as Ed’s rant about the CP never electing anybody to office.
Decided to do a little digging on Mr. Ashjian, and found out that their candidate for US Senate is Jon Scott Ashjian (his full name), he usually goes by his middle and last names only- Scott Ashjian.
Scott is involved in several business in Vegas, including a Asphalt company, and a Energy Drink business.
Apparently Jon Scott Ashjian buys and sells Las Vegas residences–six since 2002-
2002–Fire Mountain Circle ($610,000)
2003–Setting Sun (n/a)
2005–Buffalo Dr. ($136,000 condo)
2007–2 houses on Balsam St. ($360,000 and $400,000)
2008–Red Coach Ave. ($668,000)
He has connections with a Brittain Ashjian – for both are listed on each others LLC’s docs with the state.
They have listings for over LLC’s with the some of following names:
Bada-Bling, LLC
W.I.T. Bro, LLC AKA AA Paving.
24/Construction, LLC
W.S.C.I. LLC
Two Amigos, LLC
Cajun Express, LLC
Squidman, LLC
The 1720, LLC
Tnt Energy Products, LLC
RNC Properties, LLC
Almost all of the LLC’s have various Registered agents or officers with address of- 4485 N. RAINBOW, Las Vegas.
funny, that’s on the same street as their Party’s listed address.
Makes you wonder.
I have the link on those houses he purchased, yet it’s not letting me post it here.
Another thing, there’s a problem with their petition-
http://nvsos.gov/Modules/ShowDocument.aspx?documentid=1384
If you look on the last page of the petition, the wrong person signed under the Secretary’s name!
Could this be a problem Richard?
Tea Party Patriots is the one Tea Party organization that gets it.
We represent millions in this movement, give us a look.
These guys are about to guarantee Harry Reid another 6-year term…MORONS! Are they closet democrats or what?????
The problem is that the Tea Party is a good choice but it opens avenues for candidates private life with unsavvy non payment of subcontractors even while they were paid and a host of unscrupulous dealings in the las vegas valley but if this is not an obstacle then travel on. alan