On RealClearPolitics’ Latest Polls page today, Quinnipiac and Public Policy Polling have begun including presidential candidates Gary Johnson (Libertarian Party) and Jill Stein (Green Party) in their Georgia polls.
Quinnipiac results (Georgia) have Clinton at 40%, Trump at 38%, Johnson at 5%, and Stein at 3%.
Public Policy Polling results (Georgia) have Trump at 45%, Clinton at 38%, Johnson at 6%, and Stein at 2%.
In the past, even when the occasional poll does list a third-party candidate, RealClearPolitics has ignored that listing. This appears to be a sign that both Johnson and Stein will now be listed in most, if not all, national and state polls.
5-6% is pretty average. Was hoping to see numbers closer to the 10% we’d previously seen. Johnson has some work ahead of him.
Getting into polls is a start. Now, if we can get some actual non-horse-race campaign coverage. . . .
Assume that these polling outfits feel like they can’t disinclude Johnson any longer, but really aren’t interested in being inclusive. If so, wouldn’t it be likely that instead of just adding Johnson they would also include Stein, thus splitting the responses in favor of an alternative candidate that would otherwise all go to Johnson? It seems to me that is the only reason to also include Stein when the Greens are only on in 20 or so states right now and have conceded they cannot get ballot access in at least 6 states.
Trent: 1) It is a single state, and 2) The polling was almost certainly done prior to the LP Convention.
If I’ve added up correctly from the table in Richard’s May issue, Greens are on in fewer states than Libertarians now — 21 versus 32 — but are eligible to win almost as many electoral votes (293 versus 332).
Disclosure: I am a Green myself — but one who has argued on this site that the Constitution Party should also be included in debates because they already have enough ballot access to be eligible to win over 1/4 of the electoral votes . . . which is enough to guarantee their ticket a spot in the top three if the race goes to the House. The math is similar to proportional voting thresholds — but the point is that, if you have 1/4 of the electoral votes (at least 135), then at most two other parties can possibly finish ahead of you.
A significant step forward.
Will the top EVIL Donkeys/Elephants conspire shortly to WIPE OUT ALL third parties and independents ???
OR — will they just LOVE having 35-40 percent Prez winners for the future ???
i.e. nonstop Civil WAR stuff between each minority rule election.
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P.R. and nonpartisan App.V.
Will the top EVIL Donkeys/Elephants conspire shortly to WIPE OUT ALL MORON Demo Reps???
Good point John Anthony. That seems to be a reasonable threshold for inclusion in the debates: not the full 270 that has been discussed most often. After all, one can become president after a third place finish in the Electoral College.
Thank you, Drew. (I should note, however, that the [bi-]partisan Commission on Presidential Debates uses the “EC-vote majority rule” as well as its bogus poll threshold. Lawsuits against the CPD have focused chiefly on the latter, IIRC, and may have said or implied that the “majority rule” is good because it’s enough itself to keep the debate stage from being too crowded.)
How many Donkey/Elephant agents / spies / juvenile MORONS are impersonating Demo Rep ???
You know what to do.
Col. John Wayne, Horse Soldiers movie 1959
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