Bread and Roses Party Chooses Vice-Presidential Nominee

On April 30, the Bread and Roses Party announced that its 2020 vice-presidential nominee will be John de Graaf of Seattle, a documentary filmmaker and author. Here is his web page.

The presidential nominee of the Bread and Roses Party is Jerome Segal. The party is only on the ballot in Maryland.


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Bread and Roses Party Chooses Vice-Presidential Nominee — 21 Comments

  1. Here’s a good theme song for Andy’s Guns & Roses party:

    Take me down to Andy’s Liberty City
    Where the spics are gone and the Whites are plenty.
    Oh the Libertarian Zone!

    Take me down to Andy’s Liberty City
    Where Spanish is banned and Dixie flags fly freely.
    Oh the Libertarian Zone!

  2. New verse:

    Strapped in the chair of the city’s gas chamber
    Why I’m here because I couldn’t remember
    Andy’s Libertarian Zone creed
    I’d like to apologize but I can’t breathe
    Tell me what this even achieves

  3. “Pyramid Pile of Penis on April 30, 2020 at 1:14 pm said:”

    Your latest name sounds like it is a play on a comment Austin Petersen made several years ago. You are the same poster as “Egyptian God,” right? Is it true that you moved from Missouri to New Jersey? If so, how far are you from Robert Milnes?

    Here’s a good theme song for Andy’s Guns & Roses party:

    “Take me down to Andy’s Liberty City”

    This is an obvious reference to a concept I came up with (some of the ideas are of course borrowed from others) to establish a libertarian land territory/community, which I dubbed The Libertarian Zone. The Libertarian Zone would be like a giant condominium association for libertarians, backed up a Libertarian Zone contract, which would spell out the terms for living in the Libertarian Zone. The basic gist of the contract is don’t violate the Non-Aggression Principle. The Libertarian Zone would have a decentralized system of justice. There’d be no police in the Libertarian Zone, but every individual could act as a Libertarian Zone contract enforcer. Every individual in the Libertarian Zone would take part in a fully informed jury system to settle disputes. Don’t want to participate? Then don’t move into the Libertarian Zone. Individuals would be free to hire private security guards, but the private security guards would be held to the same standards as everyone else, as in no special treatment, like police get. Read more about the concept here:

    https://independentpoliticalreport.com/2014/07/andy-jacobs-the-libertarian-zone/

    “Where the spics are gone and the Whites are plenty.
    Oh the Libertarian Zone!”

    Interesting use of language. “Spic,” often used as a slur, is short for Hispanic. Hispanic means somebody from a Spanish speaking country. Hispanic is not a race, as some Hispanics are white, some are Amerindian, some are Mestizo (mixed), some are black, and some are Asian. I had a great-grandmother, who died before I was born, who was of Spanish ancestry, from South America. I have not taken a DNA test, but I believe this would make me 12.5% Hispanic, so technically, although I’m from the USA, I could be called a “Spic” since I had a great-grandmother from a Spanish speaking country. I have a far more legitimate claim of being Hispanic than Elizabeth Warren does of being a Native American Indian. Now as far as I know, I am also part Flemish (Belgian Dutch), English, Scottish, Irish, and French, and possibly some other stuff thrown in the mix.

    My Libertarian Zone proposal was not to set up a racially “pure” territory/community, but rather to establish a place the highest degree of freedom, peace, and prosperity. If other people out there want to establish territories/communities that are based on race or ethnicity, I think they should be free to do so, so long as they do it by peaceful means, but this was not the same thing as my proposal for a Libertarian Zone. Statistically speaking, yes, the majority of libertarians are white (just observe the crowd at any Libertarian or small “l” libertarian meeting, convention, conference, or rally), however, a person does not have to be white to be a libertarian, nor does a person being white mean that they are a libertarian, so for my Libertarian Zone proposal, if say Arvin Vohra (India Indian), or Eric July (who is black), or The Pholospher (Asian female libertarian), wanted to live in The Libertarian Zone, I would certainly welcome them, and I would in fact rather have them, than have a white person who holds views that are hostile to liberty.

    “Take me down to Andy’s Liberty City
    Where Spanish is banned and Dixie flags fly freely.
    Oh the Libertarian Zone!”

    Speaking Spanish, or any other language, would not be banned in the Libertarian Zone. English is considered to be the international language for business, and I think that most libertarians, even those who are from non-English speaking countries, do speak English, so in all likelihood, English would be the most common language in the Libertarian Zone, but Spanish is also a widely spoken language, and, next to English, is probably the most 2nd most handy language to know, so some people in the Libertarian Zone could speak Spanish. English would probably be a defacto “official” language, but there’d be nothing mandating it, and people would certainly be free to speak other languages.

    The Dixie flag is also known as the Confederate flag. This does not really have anything to do with the Libertarian Zone, but if people want to fly Confederate flags, they’d be free to do so.

    Would the Libertarian Zone have a flag? I don’t know if it is necessary, but I suppose that the Free State Project has the porcupine as a mascot, and the Libertarian Party has a torch as a symbol, so I suppose the Libertarian Zone could have a flag or symbol of some type. Maybe it could be black and yellow and have an A anarchist symbol, maybe also have a rattlesnake like a Gadsen flag on it as well.

    The far more important thing is the concept, which is to get a bunch of pro-liberty minded people to live in the same area, under a libertarian contract which they all sign, with a decentralized system of justice. This would be sort of like Porcfest in New Hampshire, or Anarchapulco in Mexico, only instead of only lasting for one week per year, it would be a year round settlement.

  4. “Interesting use of language. “Spic,” often used as a slur, is short for Hispanic.”

    It’s actually a mockery of accented pronunciation of speak as in “I no speak English.”

    “Is it true that you moved from Missouri to New Jersey?”

    You expect a real answer? But, to the extent Nathan Norman (probably but not necessarily also a pseudonym) has provided one before it’s Scranton, PA. I don’t know where you got MO or NJ from.

  5. Flavio is incorrect. “Spic” meant Italian before it meant Hispanic. It comes from “spicetti” (spaghetti). Italians were also called “wops” which stood for “without papers” i.e. undocumented.

  6. Andy: “Your latest name sounds like it is a play on a comment Austin Petersen made several years ago.”

    PPP: True. AP called it “a pyramid pile of pussy.” I first heard this particularly parody of that phrase on IPR in a comment by the cyberpig. I’ve used the name in the past. I used it at A3PR in 2016 when Space Cadet Coty Banks edited my comment to make it look like I threatened him and insulted his wife. He’s a disgrace.

  7. Andy: “You are the same poster as ‘Egyptian God,’ right?”

    PPP: No. He is my friend Lazarus Mudd. My name is Kareem Caliente. We are both writers at IPR-X, which Nathan Norman runs.

    Andy: “Is it true that you moved from Missouri to New Jersey? If so, how far are you from Robert Milnes?”

    PPP: No idea what you’re talking about. I’m not Thomas Knapp if that’s what you’re suggesting.

    Andy: “This is an obvious reference to a concept I came up with (some of the ideas are of course borrowed from others) to establish a libertarian land territory/community, which I dubbed The Libertarian Zone.”

    PPP: I wrote the song parody so that you’d explain it to everyone here. It’s a good idea.

    Andy: “‘Spic,’ often used as a slur, is short for Hispanic. Hispanic means somebody from a Spanish speaking country.”

    Flavio: “‘Spic’ meant Italian before it meant Hispanic”

    PPP: It must apply to me then. I am half Argentine, a Spanish speaking nation where most people are ethnically Italian like me. The other half is Lebanese but that’s not relevant.

  8. That’s some baloney Charles came up with. It comes from speak, as in “no speak English.” Knapp lives in or near Gainesville, FL as of last report. If he moved to NJ he’s kept it mum.

  9. Tom Knapp is not the person to whom I referred that moved from Missouri to New Jersey. I already knew Knapp moved to Florida.

    This person also lived in West Virginia and Maryland.

  10. Sorry Andy. You seem to be the only one who knows what in the world you are talking about.

  11. PPP, from what Cody said, it sounds like you are Polish, and live in Illinois, and your name is Krystoph Lesiak.

  12. Jeez Andy. You’re all over the place. How’d you get from NJ to IL? And lesiak lived in Missouri?

  13. I never said Kris Lesiak lived anywhere but Illinois. I know he is ethnically Polish, but I think he was born and raised in Illinois, and never lived anywhere else to my knowledge.

    The person who moved from Maryland to West Virginia, and then I believe to Missouri, and than New Jersey, is a differesnt suspect.

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