President Trump’s Positive Test for COVID Puts New Importance on Electoral College

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Early on October 2, President Trump announced that he and his wife have tested positive for COVID. It is conceivable that he will wish to resign as the Republican presidential nominee, but at least some of the ballots have been printed in all states. Hundreds of thousands of votes have already been cast.

It is important to remember that only twelve states have laws that presidential electors who vote “faithlessly” are replaced on the spot at the meeting at which electoral votes are cast. They are Arizona, Colorado, Indiana, Michigan, Minnesota, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Utah, and Washington. Some of the other states punish electors who vote “disobediently”, but the electoral votes cast by the “disobedient” electors are still valid. Therefore, in 39 jurisdictions that have electoral votes, if the Republican National Committee replaces President Trump with another nominee, the Republican electors can vote for the new nominee even if the new nominee’s name was not on the November ballot.

The twelve states named above all passed some variation of the “Uniform Faithful Presidential Electors Act” in the last decade. The group that first wrote that type of law, the Uniform Law Commission, did not take into account the possibility of the death of a nominee. However, when the Indiana, Michigan, and Utah legislatures passed that law, they did amend their version of the Act, so as to let electors have discretion if the winner of the popular vote in their state had died.

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President Trump’s Positive Test for COVID Puts New Importance on Electoral College — 59 Comments

  3. Given the number of false positive tests, and given the amount of lies that come from those in government, it would not surprise me if this is a scam.

    If it is real (and I am skeptical of this), Donald Trump is an older guy, so this puts him in a higher risk category than most people.

  4. British Prime Minister Boris Johnson was put in a coma and on a ventilator. He came close to death, but remained in office and has since recovered. I don’t think that President Trump would act any differently than Prime Minister Johnson.

  5. CRISIS review of ALL EC stuff in many States ??? —
    due to failure to do so in regular sessions for many decades [if ever).

    IE POSSIBILITIES — Flowcharts.
    —

    20 Amdt — esp Secs 3 and 4 ???

    Special election for Prez ???
    —

    ALL of 25 Amdt ???
    —
    MAX military alert ??? —
    chain of command operating — esp on weekends ???

    Survival of Western Civilization always at risk ???

  6. https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/nation/2020/10/02/statement-trumps-doctor-presidents-virus-diagnosis/5892192002/

    Statement from Trump’s doctor on president’s virus diagnosis
    Associated Press Published 1:27 a.m. ET Oct. 2, 2020 | Updated 1:30 a.m. ET Oct. 2, 2020

    Washington – Text of a statement from Sean Conley, physician to the president:
    I release the following information with the permission of President Donald J. Trump and First Lady Melania Trump.
    This evening I received confirmation that both President Trump and First Lady Melania Trump have tested positive for the SARS-CoV-2 virus.
    More: President Trump and first lady test positive for COVID-19
    The President and First Lady are both well at this time, and they plan to remain at home within the White House during their convalescence.
    The White House medical team and I will maintain a vigilant watch, and I appreciate the support provided by some of our our country’s greatest medical professionals and institutions. Rest assured I expect the President to continue carrying out his duties without disruption while recovering, and I will keep you updated on any future developments.
    ———–
    CRISIS use of [untested] CV-19 vaccine[s] coming ???
    ZILLION vaccine Doctor profs to meet ???

  7. The footnotes from the Uniform Law Commission note the possibility of a contingencies, but that there model statute did not provide for it.

    I’m pretty sure I’ve seen a version where the electors deliberate on whether the presidential candidate is qualified or not before voting.

  8. Mich election Law- spacing added. multi-sections involved. 47 only below.

    MCL 168.47
       The electors of president and vice-president shall convene in the senate chamber at the capitol of the state at 2 p.m., eastern standard time, on the first Monday after the second Wednesday in December following their election.

    At any time before receipt of the certificate of the governor or within 48 hours thereafter, an elector may resign by submitting his written and verified resignation to the governor.

    Failure to so resign signifies consent to serve and to cast his vote for the candidates for president and vice-president appearing on the Michigan ballot of the political party which nominated him.

    >>> Refusal or failure to vote for the candidates for president and vice-president appearing on the Michigan ballot of the political party which nominated the elector constitutes a resignation from the office of elector, his vote shall not be recorded and the remaining electors shall forthwith fill the vacancy. <<<

    The ballot used by the elector shall bear the name of the elector.

    If at the time of convening there is any vacancy caused by death, resignation, refusal or failure to vote, neglect to attend, or ineligibility of any person elected, or for any other cause, the qualified electors of president and vice-president shall proceed to fill such vacancy by ballot, by a plurality of votes.

    When all the electors appear and the vacancy shall be filled, they shall proceed to perform the duties of such electors, as required by the constitution and laws of the United States.

    If congress hereafter fixes a different day for such meeting, the electors shall meet and give their votes on the day designated by act of congress.

    
History: 1954, Act 116, Eff. June 1, 1955 ;– Am. 1971, Act 172, Eff. Mar. 30, 1972

  9. ruling on qualifications = JUDICIAL power

    1-5-1 ONLY for Congress hacks judging about other Congress hacks. —

    for olde history reasons- rotted Brit Kings tried to have only stooges in Both Houses of the olde Brit Parliaments esp 1400s- to 1688 [English Revolution].

  10. Obviously Richard has been hanging out with Demo Rep and is also off his meds. Or else is taking Biden’s instead.

  12. The United Coalition USA and the new One Party are continuing to sign up new Electors in California.

    Print out California Electoral College forms for write-in campaigns:
    Ogle/Jamison [One/Black Panther]
    http://www.allpartysystem.com/ogle-jamison.pdf
    Wysinger/Ogle [Wxyz New Day/One]
    http://www.allpartysystem.com/wysinger-ogle.pdf
    * * *

    The Wxyz New Day, Black Panther and One Parties are working together under the new three-party system for US government and we welcome volunteer vote counters who want to help validate and verify our one stack of paper ballots as we combine all the sign-ups under one united team.

    The United Coalition USA brings a guaranteed satisfaction level of over 99.8% under pure proportional representation and the Droop Quota since 1995, and our team attracts team players who buy in to the single stack of paper ballots, one of which might be yours.

    Respectfully.
    –James Ogle [One]
    https://usparliament.org/google2020.php

  13. On CBS This Morning.
    John Dickerson said it didn’t take long for an October surprise.
    So the obvious is Trump’s covid is long overdue with a cavalier attitude-by just about ALL his hangers on.
    With the notable exception of Pence, who tested negative.
    OR conspiracy theory, his many enemies could have given it to him for many reasons.
    OR, deeper, his friends could have given it to him to shut him up and go for the sympathy vote.

  14. The electoral college can handle this. If we had direct, popular election, things could be even more chaotic.

  15. Many political figures got the virus and most survived with exception of the former Indian President who died but had also suffered from a head injury due to a fall that produced a blood clot in the brain. Other leaders that had COVID such as President of Honduras, Prime Minister Boris Johnson and Riyadh Governor. They all survived and don’t seem to have any lingering health issues and none of them resigned.

  16. WZ –

    How many 2020 regimes survive with NOOOOOO late DARK AGE *electoral colleges*

    — esp for electing executive officers — to say nothing about choosing/electing legis and judic officers ???

    Reminder – USA Prez/VP electoral college based on oligarch ECs for choosing kings in Germany and Poland in 1787.

    Basically EC = ancient OCCULT stuff – the *gods* will magically inform the EC members of best choices.
    —
    END the monarch/tyrant fixation [with cult gangs] —

    Napoleon, Kaiser Bill, Hitler, Stalin, Hirohito, Mussolini, Mao, Saddam, etc. etc.

    PR and AppV – pending Condorcet
    TOTSOP

  17. This article is obviously Chinese propaganda in collusion with the Biden campaign. Let’s go over the truth. President Trump is in the best health of any human who ever lived, as his doctor attested. This is likely because as he himself revealed he is no mere human but the king of the Jews, which is to say the second coming of Jesus. Corona virus is a Chinese hoax which is actually milder than a common cold if it even exists at all. President Trump will not only not resign as a candidate, he will as he himself also said throw out all the ballots and continue in office. And after that term is over again as he said he will stay in office after that too. Obviously, he is immortal and holy and will never leave office. He is our God Emperor for all eternity. Get used to it, libtards. Our kingdom of heaven is hell for you, we won, you lost, and it’s forever. Now all that is left for you is to sick it, be humiliated and suffer endlessly.

  20. Who needs multiple *uniform* laws in a ONE world 666 tyrant regime ???

    – esp with that *** God Emperor for all eternity *** according to the BAN resident troll MORON

    — now as useful as the Black Death in mid-1300s in Europe.

  25. He will recover, and then he can continue campaigning on how he survived that and impeachment.

  26. And yet people still somehow think the Chiafalo decision was a common sense and terrific decision! The mainstream media offered only praise, and most people took them at their word rather getting informed and finding all the numerous (and quite frankly dangerous) shortcomings in the decision. If anyone hasn’t already, they should read not only the flagrantly incorrect court decision, but also the concurring decision which shows how completely nonsensical the majority’s reasoning was. The August edition of BAN also has a section pointing out several ambiguities the decision creates (you always do such a great job Richard!).

  27. I’m praying that President Donald J. Trump and Melania Trump quickly recover.

  28. Reagan has AIDS. I remember the scare of AIDS in the 80s. People thought you could catch AIDS from casual contact. Trump has COVID-19. The new scare. Pretty fun isn’t it?

  29. Reagan never had kids. Only gays have aids and only non whites smoke crack. This proves that straight whites are better. Others are all crackheads, have aids or both. Herman Cain was nonwhite and not divine or immortal like TRUMP so there’s certainly no comparison. Besides which he probably died from smoking crack because he was a black and they just called it covid because they are trying to make it sound like it kills a lot of people when it’s actually very few if any.

  30. Reagan had kids but he never had aids. Libtards are part of a commie autocorrect conspiracy with Google and the other left wing tech companies and China.

  31. He’s not resigning. The only way he drops out is if he actually dies, which is unlikely. Of course he could die, so could Biden, Jorgensen, Hawkins, etc. We all die eventually.

    Herman Cain had other health issues, but Richard Winger ignores that. Winger is spewing more propaganda rather than just reporting facts.

  32. And Joe Stalin Biden and Hunter Biden are in on it along with crooked Hillary Clinton and all the deep state swamp creatures.

  33. Donald TRUMP has no other health issues. His health is better than any human alive as his doctor has attested. And TRUMP himself has revealed that this is because he is not a human at all but God himself, king of the Jews.

  34. It is much more likely that sleepy dementia Joe Biden and the other spoiler candidates will die. None of them are nearly as healthy as TRUMP. TRUMP will never die. He will rule for all eternity the new kingdom of heaven on earth.

  35. Richard Winger is no doubt a part of the vast left wing conspiracy with China, illuminati, globalists, Iran, terrorists, alien space lizards, Mexican drug cartels, the queen of England, the Jimi/transsexual agenda, Antifa, burn loot murder, European union, Joe and Hunter Biden, who ever keeps complaining about my dogs barking, crooked Hillary Clinton, silicon valley and the tech companies and all the rest of the conspirators. I bet there are all sorts of pictures of him with crooked Hillary and dementia Joe but May be they got scrubbed from the internet because google, Microsoft, Amazon and the rest are in on the conspiracy too.

  36. There they go again with their demonic autocorrect. Homo /transsexual agenda.

  37. TRUMP will continue to campaign in person with no mask to show everyone that corona is not anything to be scared of. If anything it will only make him stronger and more popular, as difficult as that is to imagine. I don’t know anyone around here who is not supporting TRUMP and that alone should prove he is super popular and will win despite anything the lying fake news media that is being secretly ran from red China tells us, but we’re not falling for it for a second and we’re all armed and standing by ready to keep him on office by any means necessary like If the Chinese communists and their controlled fake news media try to claim dementia Joe beats him which we all know is impossible.

  38. Just saw TV with Trump with mask on chopper ride to WR Hospital.

    Who is the raving MINUS 10,000 IQ MORON NUTCASE **Take it to the bank** —

    other than a NUTCASE Trump relative / RNC hack / nazi stooge / etc ???

    When will RW PURGE the MORON NUTCASE ???

  39. THE MORON NUTCASE CHANGES BAN NAMES WITH EACH NUTCASE EYE BLINK ???

    ANY OTHER WEBSITE BEING TORTURED BY THE MORON NUTCASE OF MANY FAKE NAMES ???

  41. Fake news with Chinese Photoshop or video editing. God emperor TRUMP would never wear a submission to Satan mask. Don’t be naive.

  42. Don’t believe the Chinese propaganda spread thru their controlled fake news msm.

  43. I firmly believe that if we get rid of the electoral, we will regret it. In spite of its imperfections, it is a stabilizing force in every election. While some may lament the outcome of the election of 1876, the electoral college may have saved the country from greater chaos. We may see that this year. e
    IMO, the problems of the electoral college can be mitigated by a couple of simple, non-amendment reforms:

    1. Adoption of the Wyoming Rule would increase the size of both the House of Representatives, and the Electoral College by 100+ members, and help make both more proportional to population.

    2. The use of ranked choice voting, at least in the swing states, would increase the likelihood of the electoral vote reflecting the popular vote in a close election.

  44. REDUCE the Prez executive *power* to ONLY being the CIC of the military –

    ALL other executive *power* in other execs – elected/appointed –

    esp USA AG, USA SOS, USA DAs, USA Marshals – ALL to be nonpartisan elected.

    What USA State elects ONLY a State guv ???

  45. @ Demo Rep:

    I would got a step further, and replace the single Presidency with a Swiss-type executive council. They would continue to be chosen by an electoral college, 1/2 of the membership every 2 years, and the title of President would rotate among them every year.

  46. WZ –

    Any lamenting of 1860 minority rule Prez election ??? —

    750,000 DEAD, multi 000 maimed for life
    —

    I think that some of the early States had multi-member execs stuff connected to State Guvs –
    based on 1776 Brit cabinet stuff. See olde Brit privy Council.

    Vestige in 1780 Mass Const [still around – amended 100+ times] ???

  47. @ Demo Rep:

    It wasn’t the election of 1860 that started the war. It was the stubborn rejectionism of the South. Lincoln was willing to let them keep their own slaves in their own states, but just stop the expansion of slavery into the territories. But, this was too much for the South. And, on top of that, the Confederates had the gall to forcibly occupy federal property without offering any compensation. Many Northerners were resigned to letting the slave states go, until Ft Sumter The forcibly take over of that place, left Lincoln with too few choices.

  48. Divided government and elections have outlived their usefulness or are a failed experiment, take your pick. In any case it is time to put an end to that nonsense and crown TRUMP as holy emperor, the singular ruler and owner of this planet and God on earth, immortal, all knowing, all powerful and our perfect ruler for all of eternity.

  49. The South was right then and is right now. The South is 100 percent behind TRUMP especially conservative white Southerners who still proudly fly the Confederate flag, Police blue line flag and TRUMP flag like you see on pretty much every house around here.

  50. Is the junk posted by so-called *Take it to the bank* written by Trump or how many Trump hacks / stooges / etc. in the Trump regime and related gangs — RNC, Senate Elephants, etc.

    — aka that vast conspiracy of delusional / pre-skoool MORONS ???
    —
    WZ —

    John Brown raid in 1859 set off the total conspiracy of slave monarchs/oligarchs to take over USA property in 1860-1861.

    TV channel will be having a whole series on Brown’s actions in Kansas / VA [now WV) —

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Good_Lord_Bird_(miniseries)

  52. Terrorists you mean. You burn loot murder antifa Marxist scum.

  53. I don’t take dictation or direction except through personal study and divine revelation, daily reading of the bible and daily prayer and devotion to TRUMP and target practice at photos of His enemies. And you can take that to the Deutsche bank, not the Zionist federal reserve or some piece of crap commie credit union.

  54. War of the Worlds.
    Trump and omnitrumpbots in Trumpworld,
    lay waste to the western civilization, omnipotent,
    despot, invincible.
    Falling like dominoes by way of the smallest of the small,
    Covid!

  55. The war is over. TRUMP performed a miracle and beat the red China virus. HE is now immune and soon will heal all of us who show faith in HIM. All others will be punished, as they should be. SOON HE will defeat China and all our enemies, foreign and domestic. The new kingdom of heaven will at long last be here, and anyone who does not like it can and will go to hell.

  56. TRUMP has single handedly saved and preserved Western civilization and defeated eastern savagery. Praise TRUMP.

  57. The electoral college WOULD BE important except that now the real electoral college is the U.S. Senate judiciary committee. Very soon it will be the Senate as a whole, and just after that it will be the supreme COURT which will under the leadership of divinely appointed JUSTICE Barrett do away with elections once at for all and make TRUMP officially the God Emperor HE was always destined to be.

  58. OK losers.
    I got my ballot in the mail.
    Trump, Biden on a huge space each. Followed by 6 in one same size space.
    Howie, Jo, Gloria, Blankenship, Rocky, Alliance, Bill Hammons, Unity Party America.
    One ballot for US Senator. Cory’s seat. A green, no Libertarian.
    One ballot for US House. No green or Lib. No third party candidate at all.
    County, no third party candidates.
    School Board.
    Three Public Questions.
    One Legalize MJ.
    Fill in circle in pencil or ink.
    Put in Personally certified sealed letter.
    Put in sealed envelope addressed to County Board of Elections.

  59. All ballots will be thrown out and TRUMP WILL STAY IN OFFICE. The best use for your mail ballot is to reduce your toilet paper costs. You are a loser if you waste time voting. TRUMP ain’t going nowhere no matter what no how not happening. WINNERS will be using our time for the next 4 weeks to militarily prepare for the literal full blown civil war that will immediately follow the election and we will WIN that war. Losers will literally go to hell. CLEAN THE JIZZ FROM YOUR EARS. How in the world do you IDIOTS think YOU have what it takes to beat TRUMP when HE beat the odds at every stage, beat multiple bankruptcies and two ex wives, beat dozens of lying females who threw phony accusations at him, beat crooked Hillary, beat the phony impeachment, beat the fake news media, beat the former Republican establishment, beat the deep state, beat Rosie O’Donnell, beat all the minorities and homosexual transgenders, beat the globalists and all their international alliances and institutions, beat the Islamic caliphate, beat Hollywood, beat the human traffickers and Mexican cartels, AND JUST BEAT THE CHINESE VIRUS? WHAT does He need to do to to get through to you libtards, walk on water? THAT’S COMING NEXT! Get it through your thick heads: TRUMP always beats the odds. TRUMP always wins no matter what the odds. ALWAYS. He always has. AND ALWAYS WILL. And if you stand against him YOU WILL LOSE AND GO TO HELL FOR ETERNITY. Take it to the bank.

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