On April 18, the California Democratic Party, meeting in convention in Los Angeles, voted to oppose Proposition 14.
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California Democratic Party Opposes Proposition 14 — No Comments
Wow, big news!
No! Foolishness! But it won’t work. The Democratic and Republican Parties told voters to vote against a top-two primary here in Washington and it passed anyways with 58% of the vote.
#2: It worked in California in 2004, when the “top two open primary” (Prop. 62) lost in 51 of the state’s 58 counties.
It also worked in Oregon in 2008, when just under 66 percent voted “NO” on the “top two” (M65), as it lost in every single county.
Good, hopefully this will seal the anti-democratic Proposition 14’s fate.
The Donkey incumbents of course especially do NOT want to have any real opposition in general elections and thus LOVE the current ANTI-Democracy minority rule gerrymander / nomination regime.
Thus – such Donkey opposition may seal the fate of the Donkeys to DOOM — to cause marginal independents to vote for Prop. 14 along with the mini-armies of Tea Party folks.
I.E. — whatever the EVIL top Donkeys say — vote the opposite.
#2 If you think the Dems are too far to the left and the Repubs are too far to the right, why not encourage independents to vote in their primaries or start a Centrist Party?
In 1998, a Republican Moderate Party was formed in Alaska. In 2002 it elected a state legislator.
A Moderate Party is ballot-qualified in Rhode Island, and hopes to elect a state legislator or two this year.
I love how I’m being called #2, lol. Steve, that’s a good point, I still don’t think this will sway many voters. Tom, I think a natinoal centrist or moderate party would be a good thing. So would a national Independence Party if the New York, Alaska, and Minnessota Independence Parties could merge and form chapters in other states. I like the UK’s system I’d totally be a Liberal Democrat as opposed to Conservative or Labour.
No such New Age thing as a *centrist* party.
6,000 plus years — MORE govt or LESS govt.
Democracy
monarchy/oligarchy — ALWAYS tending towards MORE govt.
unanimity delusional
anarchy delusional
Take your pick.
#8 (no longer #2): I suspect that, once California voters fully realize that Prop. 14 would limit the final, deciding election to two choices– both of whom may be from the same party– most of them will oppose this monstrosity.
I understand there is/was a movement for the Independence Party to go national. The Alaskan Independence Party is much too conservative to be allied with the Minnesota and New York Independence parties. The AIP supported the Constitution Party’s 2008 presidential nominee, and it’s much more likely to affiliate with the CP.
#10 Perhaps the voters will go to ALL nonpartisan legislators and then to P.R. and A.V. ???
NE continues to survive with a ONE house NONPARTISAN state legislature – with a top 2 NONPARTISAN primary.
Wow, big news!
No! Foolishness! But it won’t work. The Democratic and Republican Parties told voters to vote against a top-two primary here in Washington and it passed anyways with 58% of the vote.
#2: It worked in California in 2004, when the “top two open primary” (Prop. 62) lost in 51 of the state’s 58 counties.
It also worked in Oregon in 2008, when just under 66 percent voted “NO” on the “top two” (M65), as it lost in every single county.
Good, hopefully this will seal the anti-democratic Proposition 14’s fate.
The Donkey incumbents of course especially do NOT want to have any real opposition in general elections and thus LOVE the current ANTI-Democracy minority rule gerrymander / nomination regime.
Thus – such Donkey opposition may seal the fate of the Donkeys to DOOM — to cause marginal independents to vote for Prop. 14 along with the mini-armies of Tea Party folks.
I.E. — whatever the EVIL top Donkeys say — vote the opposite.
#2 If you think the Dems are too far to the left and the Repubs are too far to the right, why not encourage independents to vote in their primaries or start a Centrist Party?
In 1998, a Republican Moderate Party was formed in Alaska. In 2002 it elected a state legislator.
A Moderate Party is ballot-qualified in Rhode Island, and hopes to elect a state legislator or two this year.
I love how I’m being called #2, lol. Steve, that’s a good point, I still don’t think this will sway many voters. Tom, I think a natinoal centrist or moderate party would be a good thing. So would a national Independence Party if the New York, Alaska, and Minnessota Independence Parties could merge and form chapters in other states. I like the UK’s system I’d totally be a Liberal Democrat as opposed to Conservative or Labour.
No such New Age thing as a *centrist* party.
6,000 plus years — MORE govt or LESS govt.
Democracy
monarchy/oligarchy — ALWAYS tending towards MORE govt.
unanimity delusional
anarchy delusional
Take your pick.
#8 (no longer #2): I suspect that, once California voters fully realize that Prop. 14 would limit the final, deciding election to two choices– both of whom may be from the same party– most of them will oppose this monstrosity.
I understand there is/was a movement for the Independence Party to go national. The Alaskan Independence Party is much too conservative to be allied with the Minnesota and New York Independence parties. The AIP supported the Constitution Party’s 2008 presidential nominee, and it’s much more likely to affiliate with the CP.
#10 Perhaps the voters will go to ALL nonpartisan legislators and then to P.R. and A.V. ???
NE continues to survive with a ONE house NONPARTISAN state legislature – with a top 2 NONPARTISAN primary.
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