On June 8, a hearing was held in Solano County Superior Court, California, on the lawsuit over the identity of the state officers of the American Independent Party. The attorney for the faction that nominated Alan Keyes for President in 2008 asked for more time, so there will be another hearing on June 30. The case is King v Robinson, 033119.
IPNY party “independent” voter confusing name will also be challenged this year in state and/or federal as part of the annual non-affiliated voters legal defense fund.
also but on the nbc/BO/POTUS CINC eligibility front:
Hawaii Confirms Tim Adams Was ‘Senior Elections Clerk’ in the 2008 Election, Oh, Adams is also a Hillary Clinton Supporter! Tim Adams says Obama was not born in Hawaii! | Birther Report: Obama Release Your Records
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/06/hawaii-confirms-tim-adams-was-senior.html
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/06/purported-former-chief-elections-clerk.html
http://www.thewhitehousewatch.com/?p=5452
Richard Winger,
I was present in court. Judge Wm C. Harrison did not give King the TRO that he asked for. The hearing on June 30, 2010 will be after the AIP State Convention. Therefore, the issue would be moot by that date. The California Election Code states that the State Convention can be as early as June 12, 2010.
The Convention will be in Sacramento.
Sincerely, Mark Seidenberg, Vice Chairman, American
Independent Party, affiliated with the America’s
Independent Party since June 27, 2008
Mark Seidenberg:
I am not necessary a big fan of Chuck Baldwin and the Constitution Party, but why don’t you and all the other Alan Keyes’faction show that you are all true Christian patriots and support Chelene Nightingale as the AIP nominee for Governor? She won handily. The AIP membership apparently were satisfied with her candidacy. And she has the potential to be the strongest AIP gubernatorial candidate in the party’s history. I believe if you folks would stop your childish “in-fighting” and work for her, she could pull a respectable 6 figure vote in November. But if you’re not going to support her, please justify to the rest of us why not?
Alabama Independent
You stated the “AIP membership apparently were sat-isfied with her (Chelene Nightingale) as the AIP
nominee for Governor? This is news to me. The
state canvass will not be completed until July
6, 2010. Therefore, it is to early to tell. Let’s
wait to see what happens on July 6th, 2010. I am.
Sincerely, Mark Seidenberg, Vice Chairman,
American Independent Party, affiliated with the
America’s Independent Party since June 27, 2008
Mark Seidenberg. Oh come on. Stop playing childish games. Some 17,000 votes for Nightingale to some 12,000 for Robinson is somehow going to be officially totalled differently when the state convass is complete? Give me a break! Are you confessing that votes are counted in California like they used to do (and perhaps still do) in Chicago?
It is this kind of silliness that drives otherwise interested “independents” away from the AIP. It is this “I’m gonna take my marbles and go home” mindset that is going to keep the AIP from growing and having a record vote for its gubernatorial candidate in 2010. Grow up!
Oh by the way, let me know when the canvass board declares Robinson the winner.
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Reply to the Alabama Independent post # 6.
I am not playing “childish games”. The requirements to be seated as a “nominee delegate” is a “Certificate of
Election” that is issue by California Sectrtary of State
Debra Bowen” after the “official canvass” which takes place as late as 39th day after the election and starts
7 days prior to the election. This is a period when people can dispute who the electors our etc.
Here in California the Republican Damon Dunn (who is running for Secretary of State may not be person elected
to run for Secretary of State, because he signed his vote registration with a date in 1976. 1976 is the year
of his birth. He would be under 18 years of age and not
an age to keep him on the ballot. Remember, Eldridge
Clever was removed from the ballot in 1968 because on an
age problem in both California and Utah.
Several people have e-mailed and posted that Nightingale
will be challenged after the June 8th primary. I have no way of knowing how this will effect the current campaign for governor by Chelene Nightingale.
As to your view on California voting, a la Chicago, look what happened in Los Angeles County in the Presidential Primary of 2008 with the “double bubble”
issue. L.A. County came up with a new kind of voter
fraud, turning over DTS voters who voted AIP to the
Democrats, viz. Obama and Clenton.
Also in 2008 one of the presidential electors in California died in Humbolt County prior to her appointment as an elector. The Chairman of the
Democratic Party placed a substitute on the electorial college list in violation of the California Election Code, since the California Election Code states another
way that electors have to be replaced.
My view is yes California is a “Little Chicago” in more
ways than just the Economics Department at UCLA.
Sincerely, Mark Seidenberg, Vice Chairman, American Independent Party, affiliated with the America’s Independent Party of Fenton, Michigan since June 27, 2008.
I know that certain people involved with the Nightigale campaign…advocated friends relatives others…to change their voter registration to AIP to vote for nightingale in the primary and then told they can change back to rep for the election in November….this was a big push and run up of the aip registration…Mr. Robinson was mailed a copy of the website that were telling people how to do this switcheroo…very deceidtful practice and par for the course with this group of crooks.
And I might add the people that switched to AIP did not want to belong to the AIP to build the party it was done so that Chelene Nightingale could get votes and thus a seat on the AIP board. Nightingale who has filed for bankruptcy and tried to keep it secret, this is a natural way of life for her and the company she keeps. They can’t run on merit only on fumes and lies. thank you
Walt
Would you be willing to give testimony to those facts before the American Independent Party’s committee that
is investigating this affair?
Sincerely, Mark Seidenberg,Vice Chairman, American Independent Party
Bwhahahahahah! Everybody is dying to see “Walt” testify.
By the way, Mark Seidenberg has apparently NEVER switched HIS party registration! He has been AIP since June of 1967, right Mark? Yeah, right. Hey Mark, what about people like me (admittedly I moved to PA, but otherwise have been in the AIP since 1971), Larry Breazeale (72), Ellen Van Buskirk (67), Winifred Laymon (67), Robert Geisweit (68), Howard Hallinan (67), Ted Nicholoff (84), Charles Deemer (84), Merton Short (84), Judy Short (84), Jim Griffin, (67), Russ Condon (84), Nada Crabtree, (the 70’s) to name just a very few…all of us supported Nightingale. How many of us are just “party switchers?”
Tell me, Mark, how many people do you have on your so-called “board” who go back, unininterrupted, to 68, or 72 or 84 or even the early 90’s, continuously registered in the American Independent Party?
Please cite the election code section that mandates when and how often people can change parties. My son registered AIP so that he could sign the petitions of Nightingale and the other REAL AIP candidates. He voted in the AIP primary and he remains in the AIP. Are you planning to try to have him prosecuted? I really want to know. So would his grandfather, Jim Griffin. He would get REAL interested if you tried to do that. If at some point in time my son should decide to re-register into another party, are you planning to try to have him prosecuted on some charge for doing that? What charge? What law? We are dying to find out, Wal…er Mark! Inquiring minds want to know, Mark!
By the way, I would be very interested to know “Walt’s” last name, where he lives and whether he is registered AIP and, if so, for how long.
#1 gary O “damn” I sent mark robinson early in the year a website I found on the internet that was authored by a “barb Coe” friend of chelene…on this webiste it explains how to change your registration to vote AIP for chelene in the primary..then says “You can change back to your own party after the primary. I have a copy of my own. I will resend it to Robinson. Mark s please ask Markham if he still has the copy. #2 I do exist and I would hate to devulge who I really am…I am privy to information by the “Baldwin faction of the aip” Yes I am a turncoat…I have turned on the people that think I am behind them. I would not want to out myself but I will send info to robinson of incriminating evidence of their deceit. If I stated who I was…my marriage could be in jeopardy…but, as you read this it already is and I felt the need to report the activities of this group that sickened my stomach.
so again Mark S. Please respond to this website if markham needs another copy of the website I sent him. Also, I would testify but as I explained keeping my identity private is important for me. thank you
and btw I am a woman.
Did you notice how fast gary pleads the case for his son? (guilty conscience much?) You all know the fine line you walked on betweem legitimate voter registration and Voter fraud tactic. You should all be ashamed. In conclusion..I am glad prop 14 passed, it will make your coup to try to over take the AIP null because it just won’t matter as all candidates will run on one ballot..with or without their parties backing. I am glad that it passed!! The juvinile behavior I witnessed grown men take part in is probaly the most disgusting. So God took control, Prop 14 was a Godsend.
Here’s an interesting fact regarding FIRST AMENDMENT INFRINGMENT
The First amendment protection of freedom of association ie: which includes the right of parties not to associate with candidates they do not select. Does the AIP have that option as they did not “select” Chelene Nightingale as their governor candidate? She ran as a hostile candidate?
why is it everywhere Chelene nightingale goes lawsuits follow?
To readers of this thread –
1) ” walt,” and ” spirit of 76 ” are in reality the ultra corrupt Mark Seidenberg writing under another name; an extremely common practice for him.
2) Alabama Independent – The Alan Keyes criminal gang of Robinson, Seidenberg, and Noonan has absolutely no intention of ” coming together ” behind Chelene because their whole purpose is to destroy the party. They, with Seidenberg leading the way, are actually agents of the Anti-Defamation League ( ADL ) and the Southern Poeverty Law Center ( SPLC ). The entire purpose, and the desire of their handlers/controllers, of their attack upon the AIP was to destroy the CP and the 3rd party conservative movement in the nation. They actually WANT to drive people away from the AIP but they also want to retain control of the Prseidential Ballot line of the party so that they can make a profit of minimally hundreds of thousands of dollars by auctioning it off to the highest bidder. Bottom line – they are ultra corrupt liars and traitors whose crimes are documented at TheCorruptionOfAlanKeyes.blogspot.com
Don J. Grundmann, D.C. Vice-Chairman American Independent Party, California branch of the Constitution Party
To the readers of this thread..as you can tell by Don Grundmans ranting and non-sensical blithering he is an unstable paranoid sick individual. He is a tax defier and a gay basher. He backs bankrupt and criminal candidates he thinks everyone is mark seidenberg…(true sign of mental problems) he stalks the AIP when he is not even a member. I am not Mark S I am a married woman who OUTED THESE sick twisted jerks that tried to stuff the ballot box. Grundman is so mad he lost his bid for senate seat he will write anything to try to discredit the AIP. He hates the AIP because he has been Banned from them. Just google Don grundman and look at his youtube video of him dressed as a devil haraasing GAYS on street corners. The proof is in his words and deeds. He seems dangerous unstable and thats about all I ever wish to address about this sickening person.
Southern poverty law center has written about Chelene Nightingale way before she ever was associated with the AIP. When she ran a hategroup against immigrants splc wrote their opinions about her. That was 5 years ago. her associations with radical criminals that were in the minutemen that ended with murder are all documented. She made her own bed way before she ever ran for a seat. The AIP organization had no knowledge of her radical and damgerous past…as she tried to hide it. THE SPLC has a webpage filled with writings they have done on her and the people she associates with.
” walt “/i.e.; Mark the SeidenRAT – Just be honest for only ONE time in your miserable existence. Stop lying under another name. Do as you always do otherwise – lie under your name. I do appreciate you showing the true beliefs of the coorupt AIP which you represent – pro-perversion, pro-IRS, and pro-illegal immigration.
Don J. Grundmann, D.C. Vice-Chairman American Independent Party, California branch of the Constitution Party
To Don Lake:
The Executive Committee of the American Independent Party today elected Don Lake
to the State Central Committee to fill the re-mainder of Don Grundmann’s term which he vacated on September 3, 2006.
Sincerely, Mark Seidenberg, Vice Chairman,
American Independent Party
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