Here is the “Motion to Quash Subpoena” filed by President Obama’s attorney in the Georgia case that challenges the President’s qualifications to be on the March 6 Georgia presidential primary. It is eight pages. The Administrative Judge was not persuaded by this brief, because it was on January 20 that he declined to quash the subpoena. The case is Farrar v Obama. The main argument made in this brief is that a Georgia state court subpoena is not effective if it is not served in Georgia. Thanks to Bill Van Allen for the link.
If I understand it the plaintiffs want an individual to testify about their recollection of where they where born?
I continue to believe that those who think Obama wasn’t born in the United States couldn’t be convinced, no mater how many times this gets argued, even if they had been in attendance at the birth themselves.
I have suggested that there has to be multiple examples of similar birth certificates issued at the time Obama was born. Has the dis-believers ever shown an example of a birth certificate from the same period from the same county that looks any different then the Obama has presented? No four years later the answer remains no.
In my opinion perusing this is either dumb or malicious or malicious and dumb!
I know how you like to cover Green parties in other countries.
The candidate of the Green League made it to the presidential run-off in Finland. He will face a candidate from the ruling party although the Green League is actually the ruling party’s junior coalition partner.
Additionally, the Green candidate is also gay. He would be the first Green head of state and the first gay head of state anywhere. Yes, there have been Green heads of government (prime ministers) and gay heads of government before already.
forwarded message from Jan 26th Farrar v Obama plaintiff witness Christopher Earl Strunk
“WHEN IN DOUBT SORT THEM OUT!
Congress is only empowered to make rules regarding naturalization under Article 1 Section 8 paragraph 4 and as such any law seeking to redefine NBC or modify the length of time a person need be resident before seeking office is a matter that may only be done as an amendment to the Constitution.
If other than a de jure Natural-born Citizen or a person born in the country of citizen parents, when in doubt sort them out. Because the person according to Congress and the Constitution may only be a naturalized citizen in one of a few subcategories: Person born wherever of one citizen and one foreign parent, a person born wherever of one citizen parent immaculate conception, a person born overseas of citizens parents not in the diplomatic corps, a person born wherever of foreign parents.
Best regards
Chris Strunk “
AMICUS BRIEF – Georgia POTUS Eligibility Cases. « Natural Born Citizen
http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2012/01/23/amicus-brief-georgia-potus-eligibility-cases/
I am no expert in this field, but I believe the challengers have two separate points: (1) one of a natural-born citizen’s parents must have been an adult U.S. citizen and President Obama’s father wasn’t a citizen and his mother was too young (age 18) to bestow her citizenship on her son; (2) Hawaii refused to let anyone see the long-form birth certificate and until the public is allowed to see it in the Hawaii records, the copy released by the President can’t be verified as being genuine. I could be wrong and I am sure commenters will tell me if I am wrong.
TOTAL male dominance in 1776-1868.
What was the nation-state ALLEGIANCE of the father the instant that the kid was born ???
— WHERE EVER the kid is born – in a domestic regime area, in a foreign regime area or on the high seas in a Titanic lifeboat after a ship wreck — or now even in outer space on a trip to the Moon and back.
NBC = Nation-State ALLEGIANCE connection AT birth.
Naturalization = change of ALLEGIANCE AFTER birth.
— NOT atomic physics — although very DARK AGE type stuff.
Again – NO foreign regime allegiance connection allowed for a Prez as U.S.A. CIC — a BIG deal in 1787.
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http://colonialancestors.com/revolutionary/soldiers.htm
Gee what was that 1778 ALLEGIANCE oath ALL about ???
Genealogy — who was your daddy ??? Did he fight the Brits in the 1775-1783 WAR ???
Pensions for the 1775-1783 military survivors, widows and orphans even to after the Civil War.
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See also the Oath that naturalized U.S.A. citizens take before a Fed Judge and the U.S.A. Flag — i.e. the oath taken by an ancestor (from a foreign nation) of most of the folks on this list.
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Earlier Dark Age stuff — England each 12 year old male was required to take an oath of allegiance to the English regime — i.e. to the monarch and the oligarchs in control — and then became an adult for various purposes — i.e. even before age 21 — now 18.
— i.e. even 12 year olds might be used as cannon fodder in monarchy wars.
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See the age 21 in 14th Amdt, Sec. 2.
Richard,
See the below federal law which defines Citizenship by birth.
If you are physically born in the United States the citizenship status of your parents doesn’t mater.
For all acts of government, you are required to submit an official copy of your birth certificate. What has been released is an official copy of Obama’s. Why are we expecting him to have to release anymore then we would reasonably expect of anyone else? Especially since no one has provided any evidence to the contrary.
In my opinion it makes the proponents of attacking Obama’s citizenship standing look not only dumb but racist.
There are valid political and economic reasons for attacking Obama, better his critics should concentrate on them.
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§ 1401. Nationals and citizens of United States at birth
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The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:
(a) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof;
(b) a person born in the United States to a member of an Indian, Eskimo, Aleutian, or other aboriginal tribe: Provided, That the granting of citizenship under this subsection shall not in any manner impair or otherwise affect the right of such person to tribal or other property;
(c) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents both of whom are citizens of the United States and one of whom has had a residence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions, prior to the birth of such person;
(d) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year prior to the birth of such person, and the other of whom is a national, but not a citizen of the United States;
(e) a person born in an outlying possession of the United States of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year at any time prior to the birth of such person;
(f) a person of unknown parentage found in the United States while under the age of five years, until shown, prior to his attaining the age of twenty-one years, not to have been born in the United States;
(g) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years: Provided, That any periods of honorable service in the Armed Forces of the United States, or periods of employment with the United States Government or with an international organization as that term is defined in section 288 of title 22 by such citizen parent, or any periods during which such citizen parent is physically present abroad as the dependent unmarried son or daughter and a member of the household of a person
(A) honorably serving with the Armed Forces of the United States, or
(B) employed by the United States Government or an international organization as defined in section 288 of title 22, may be included in order to satisfy the physical-presence requirement of this paragraph. This proviso shall be applicable to persons born on or after December 24, 1952, to the same extent as if it had become effective in its present form on that date; and
(h) a person born before noon (Eastern Standard Time) May 24, 1934, outside the limits and jurisdiction of the United States of an alien father and a mother who is a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, had resided in the United States.
Steve M
You forgot the Act of August 4, 1937, and the Garfield Act. Remembers that Eskimos were granted Citizenship
January, 1941 (COLLECTIVE NATURALIZATION) if born in the
United States. AIP Ticket has two Eskimo’s running for
POTUS. Also to Native Hawaiians are running on the AIP
ticket.
Sincerely, Mark Seidenberg, Chairman,
American Independent Party
we are also forgetting the first section of the 14th amendment.
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Allegiance to a NATION-State.
ALL of the residence stuff is NON-sense.
NO such thing as dual citizenship in 2 or more NATION-states.
See Const Art. III, Sec. 2, para. 1 regarding foreign regimes and the citizens/subjects of such regimes for Fed court jurisdiction purposes.