Top Two guarantees that there will be one winner with a minimum of 50% plus one votes. A guaranteed majority.
Before Top Two, there is no guarantee that the biggest minority wins with far less than 50% plus one vote.
For example in California, before Top Two, the Libertarian Party could win with 12.5% plus one vote.
If the six parties and one independent candidate split the vote with 12.5% each, and the Libertarian Party garnered 12.5% (plus one vote, breaking the tie) then that means 87.5% (minus one vote) lost.
So that newspaper must be opposed to majority rule.
So that means 85.74%
Any small party of independent could win with 12.5% plus one vote in a seven-way race without Top Two.
There’s no wondering why third parties and independents are opposed to Top Two.
They must want to dictate to the 87.5% majority.
All these years they’ve been opposed to pure proportional representation which creates teamwork and now they are fighting Top Two.
In fact the chairs of the Green, Libertarian and Peace and Freedom Parties modified their primaries in California in 2012 after the majority of California voters approved Top Two.
So now they want you to join the another fight against the majority, against Top Two, because they don’t want majority rule to be guaranteed.
12.5% (minus one vote) wins.
87.5% (minus one vote) loses.
The majority loses without Top Two.
Good plan indeed; Stop Top Two and stop the tyranny of the majority. Our leaders have spoken about this for four years now. Stop the majority!
Meant to write:
12.5% (PLUS one vote) wins.
87.5% (minus one vote) loses.
The majority loses without Top Two.
Good plan indeed; Stop Top Two and stop the tyranny of the majority. Our leaders have spoken about this for four years now. Stop the majority!
UNITE to STOP Top Two! Give the 12.5% (plus one vote) the power in California! Give it to the true leaders!
Delete anyone’s comments who opposes the 12.5% (plus one vote) ability to win all elections even though 87.5% (minus one vote) voted against them!
Kick them in the balls for another twenty years!
The math doesn’t lie! Google it!
Join the Green, Libertarian or Peace and Freedom Party!
They’re for 12.5% (plus one vote) winning all single-winner partisan elections as they have made known to everyone for four years!
Under Top Two, no one can WIN without a guaranteed minimum of 50% plus one vote!!
STOP TOP TWO! UNITE!!
EVERYONE AGREES THAT THAT’S NOT RIGHT!
FAR MORE PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT 12.5% (plus one vote) SHOULD BE ABLE TO WIN AGAINST 87.5% (minus one vote) IN A SEVEN-WAY TIE! JOIN THE MAJORITY!!
100 / 8 = 12.5
12.5% (plus 1 vote) = MUCH BIGGER majority than just 12.5 x 7
12.5% SHOULD WIN, [NOT 50% (plus 1)] LIKE TOP TWO GUARANTEES!
Do the math! 12.5% (plus one vote) is the majority!
STOP TOP TWO WHICH REQUIRES CANDIDATES TO RECEIVE 50% (plus one vote)!!!
THAT’S NOT GOOD!
STOP TOP TWO – SPREAD THE WORD – UNITE AGAINST THE TYRANNY OF THE MAJORITY! JOIN THE LIBERTARIAN, GREEN AND PEACE & FREEDOM PARTIES!! FIGHT!!
THINK ON YOUR FEET!! ACT FAST!!! FIGHT TOP TWO!!!!
I’M INVESTING ALL MY TIME AND ENERGY AGAINST TOP TWO BECAUSE IT REQUIRES 50% (plus one vote) MINIMUM FOR VICTORY!
MAKE IT LIKE IT WAS!!
STOP TOP TWO!! UNITE BEHIND US!! FIGHT, FIGHT FIGHT!!
50% (plus one vote) AND TOP TWO ARE DIRTY!! THEY ARE SYNONYMOUS!!
WE DESERVE TO WIN WITH 12.5% (plus one vote) IN A SEVEN-WAY TIE LIKE THE OLD DAYS!! UNITE AND GO BACK TO WHAT WE WERE!!
FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT TOP TWO!!
UNITE, UNITE, STOP TOP TWO!!
SUE, SUE, SUE THE DIRTY TOP TWO!!
JOIN THE UNITY AGAINST THE TYRANNICAL 50% (plus one vote) REQUIRED UNDER TOP TWO!!
Are you with me on this?
NO on Top Two! Give the 12.5% (plus one vote) a chance in a 8-way race AFTER the primaries! Protect the minorities!
NO to majority rule*, NO to Top Two!
*50% (plus one vote)
GIVE MINORITY RULE A FIGHTING CHANCE IN OREGON!!
NO TO TOP TWO*!!
*GUARANTEES a minimum of 50% (plus one vote) or more, votes for winners.
NO MAJORITY RULE!!
IT’S NOT COOL!!
FIGHT ME AND YOU!!
TO STOP TOP TWO*!!
GIVE MINORITIES A GOAL!!
NOT A SACK OF COAL!!
WE LIKE TO FIGHT!!
ESPECIALLY WHEN WE’RE RIGHT!!
*Guarantees one winner with 50% (plus one vote).
VOTE NO TOP TWO
By James Ogle
WHEN TEN CANDIDATES RUN,
AND ALL GET NINE PERCENT.
ONE GETS NINE PERCENT (PLUS ONE),
THE GUY OUTSIDE THE TENT.
NOW NINETY PERCENT IS BLUE,
CAUSE THEY ALL SPLIT THE VOTE.
BUT THE GUY WHO WINS IS YOU,
SO YOU JUST SPIT AND GLOAT.
NOW YOU’RE IN CHARGE OF ALL,
INCLUDING THE OTHER NINE TOO.
AND YOU’LL GET QUITE THE HAUL,
IF WE VOTE NO ON TOP TWO.
Forgot the first paragraph, about the primary:
NINETEEN BLUES AND ONE RED ROUNDED,
OUT THE ELECTION’S PRIMARY LIST.
AND WHEN THE VOTES ARE COUNTED,
ONLY HALF RAISED A VICTORY FIST.
VOTE NO TOP TWO
By James Ogle
NINETEEN BLUES AND ONE RED ROUNDED
OUT THE ELECTION’S PRIMARY LIST.
AND WHEN THE VOTES ARE COUNTED,
ONLY HALF RAISED A VICTORY FIST.
WHEN THESE TEN CANDIDATES RUN,
AND ALL GET NINE PERCENT.
ONE GETS NINE PERCENT (PLUS ONE),
THE GUY OUTSIDE THE TENT.
NOW NINETY PERCENT IS BLUE,
CAUSE THEY ALL SPLIT THE VOTE.
BUT THE GUY WHO WINS IS YOU,
SO YOU JUST SPIT AND GLOAT.
NOW YOU’RE IN CHARGE OF ALL,
INCLUDING THE OTHER NINE TOO.
AND YOU’LL GET QUITE THE HAUL,
SO WE MUST VOTE NO ON TOP TWO.
* * *
James Ogle:
I think you have made your point with these some 24 replies.
Top Two will turn into a One Party Nation eventually. Is this what you want? Don’t spin us with this nonsense about there have to a “majority” vote. Abraham Lincoln was elected with a minority of the popular vote. He turned out to be a pretty good President.
What about JFK?
Most candidates who are elected with a plurality, recognize they have to represent everybody if they are to remain in office, or be re-elected. Most office-holders elected with a plurality of votes eventually move to the middle or centrist position.
Again, Top Two will eventually lead to a One Party State!
Top 2 may make the existing MINORITY Rule even worse.
1/2 (or less) votes x 1/2 pack/crack gerrymander areas = 1/4 (or less) CONTROL.
If there are 2 Ds or Rs, then the winning amount will likely be less than if there were 1 D , 1 R and other candidates.
—-
NO primaries.
P.R. and nonpartisan App.V.
It appears that someone is paying “James Ogle” a handsome wage to post his rantings extolling the virtues of majority rule. It appears his education lacked the essential component that the USA was designed as a republic rather than a democracy, because the founders knew well the problems and inevitable historical progression of democracies into anarchy and then dictatorships. The “Top Two” measures’ actual and historically-documented effect has been to protect incumbents and establish one-party rule. The Top Two agenda is that of eventual dictatorship, unless the voters reject it while you still can. Vote NO on this anti-American measure! Do not let yourself be led astray by the “majority rule” argument. Read and learn about the places where it’s been implemented to see for yourself the destruction of the voice of the individual.
Top Two guarantees that there will be one winner with a minimum of 50% plus one votes. A guaranteed majority.
Before Top Two, there is no guarantee that the biggest minority wins with far less than 50% plus one vote.
For example in California, before Top Two, the Libertarian Party could win with 12.5% plus one vote.
If the six parties and one independent candidate split the vote with 12.5% each, and the Libertarian Party garnered 12.5% (plus one vote, breaking the tie) then that means 87.5% (minus one vote) lost.
So that newspaper must be opposed to majority rule.
So that means 85.74%
Any small party of independent could win with 12.5% plus one vote in a seven-way race without Top Two.
There’s no wondering why third parties and independents are opposed to Top Two.
They must want to dictate to the 87.5% majority.
All these years they’ve been opposed to pure proportional representation which creates teamwork and now they are fighting Top Two.
In fact the chairs of the Green, Libertarian and Peace and Freedom Parties modified their primaries in California in 2012 after the majority of California voters approved Top Two.
So now they want you to join the another fight against the majority, against Top Two, because they don’t want majority rule to be guaranteed.
12.5% (minus one vote) wins.
87.5% (minus one vote) loses.
The majority loses without Top Two.
Good plan indeed; Stop Top Two and stop the tyranny of the majority. Our leaders have spoken about this for four years now. Stop the majority!
Meant to write:
12.5% (PLUS one vote) wins.
87.5% (minus one vote) loses.
The majority loses without Top Two.
Good plan indeed; Stop Top Two and stop the tyranny of the majority. Our leaders have spoken about this for four years now. Stop the majority!
UNITE to STOP Top Two! Give the 12.5% (plus one vote) the power in California! Give it to the true leaders!
Delete anyone’s comments who opposes the 12.5% (plus one vote) ability to win all elections even though 87.5% (minus one vote) voted against them!
Kick them in the balls for another twenty years!
The math doesn’t lie! Google it!
Join the Green, Libertarian or Peace and Freedom Party!
They’re for 12.5% (plus one vote) winning all single-winner partisan elections as they have made known to everyone for four years!
Under Top Two, no one can WIN without a guaranteed minimum of 50% plus one vote!!
STOP TOP TWO! UNITE!!
EVERYONE AGREES THAT THAT’S NOT RIGHT!
FAR MORE PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT 12.5% (plus one vote) SHOULD BE ABLE TO WIN AGAINST 87.5% (minus one vote) IN A SEVEN-WAY TIE! JOIN THE MAJORITY!!
100 / 8 = 12.5
12.5% (plus 1 vote) = MUCH BIGGER majority than just 12.5 x 7
12.5% SHOULD WIN, [NOT 50% (plus 1)] LIKE TOP TWO GUARANTEES!
Do the math! 12.5% (plus one vote) is the majority!
STOP TOP TWO WHICH REQUIRES CANDIDATES TO RECEIVE 50% (plus one vote)!!!
THAT’S NOT GOOD!
STOP TOP TWO – SPREAD THE WORD – UNITE AGAINST THE TYRANNY OF THE MAJORITY! JOIN THE LIBERTARIAN, GREEN AND PEACE & FREEDOM PARTIES!! FIGHT!!
THINK ON YOUR FEET!! ACT FAST!!! FIGHT TOP TWO!!!!
I’M INVESTING ALL MY TIME AND ENERGY AGAINST TOP TWO BECAUSE IT REQUIRES 50% (plus one vote) MINIMUM FOR VICTORY!
MAKE IT LIKE IT WAS!!
STOP TOP TWO!! UNITE BEHIND US!! FIGHT, FIGHT FIGHT!!
50% (plus one vote) AND TOP TWO ARE DIRTY!! THEY ARE SYNONYMOUS!!
WE DESERVE TO WIN WITH 12.5% (plus one vote) IN A SEVEN-WAY TIE LIKE THE OLD DAYS!! UNITE AND GO BACK TO WHAT WE WERE!!
FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT TOP TWO!!
UNITE, UNITE, STOP TOP TWO!!
SUE, SUE, SUE THE DIRTY TOP TWO!!
JOIN THE UNITY AGAINST THE TYRANNICAL 50% (plus one vote) REQUIRED UNDER TOP TWO!!
Are you with me on this?
NO on Top Two! Give the 12.5% (plus one vote) a chance in a 8-way race AFTER the primaries! Protect the minorities!
NO to majority rule*, NO to Top Two!
*50% (plus one vote)
GIVE MINORITY RULE A FIGHTING CHANCE IN OREGON!!
NO TO TOP TWO*!!
*GUARANTEES a minimum of 50% (plus one vote) or more, votes for winners.
NO MAJORITY RULE!!
IT’S NOT COOL!!
FIGHT ME AND YOU!!
TO STOP TOP TWO*!!
GIVE MINORITIES A GOAL!!
NOT A SACK OF COAL!!
WE LIKE TO FIGHT!!
ESPECIALLY WHEN WE’RE RIGHT!!
*Guarantees one winner with 50% (plus one vote).
VOTE NO TOP TWO
By James Ogle
WHEN TEN CANDIDATES RUN,
AND ALL GET NINE PERCENT.
ONE GETS NINE PERCENT (PLUS ONE),
THE GUY OUTSIDE THE TENT.
NOW NINETY PERCENT IS BLUE,
CAUSE THEY ALL SPLIT THE VOTE.
BUT THE GUY WHO WINS IS YOU,
SO YOU JUST SPIT AND GLOAT.
NOW YOU’RE IN CHARGE OF ALL,
INCLUDING THE OTHER NINE TOO.
AND YOU’LL GET QUITE THE HAUL,
IF WE VOTE NO ON TOP TWO.
Forgot the first paragraph, about the primary:
NINETEEN BLUES AND ONE RED ROUNDED,
OUT THE ELECTION’S PRIMARY LIST.
AND WHEN THE VOTES ARE COUNTED,
ONLY HALF RAISED A VICTORY FIST.
VOTE NO TOP TWO
By James Ogle
NINETEEN BLUES AND ONE RED ROUNDED
OUT THE ELECTION’S PRIMARY LIST.
AND WHEN THE VOTES ARE COUNTED,
ONLY HALF RAISED A VICTORY FIST.
WHEN THESE TEN CANDIDATES RUN,
AND ALL GET NINE PERCENT.
ONE GETS NINE PERCENT (PLUS ONE),
THE GUY OUTSIDE THE TENT.
NOW NINETY PERCENT IS BLUE,
CAUSE THEY ALL SPLIT THE VOTE.
BUT THE GUY WHO WINS IS YOU,
SO YOU JUST SPIT AND GLOAT.
NOW YOU’RE IN CHARGE OF ALL,
INCLUDING THE OTHER NINE TOO.
AND YOU’LL GET QUITE THE HAUL,
SO WE MUST VOTE NO ON TOP TWO.
* * *
James Ogle:
I think you have made your point with these some 24 replies.
Top Two will turn into a One Party Nation eventually. Is this what you want? Don’t spin us with this nonsense about there have to a “majority” vote. Abraham Lincoln was elected with a minority of the popular vote. He turned out to be a pretty good President.
What about JFK?
Most candidates who are elected with a plurality, recognize they have to represent everybody if they are to remain in office, or be re-elected. Most office-holders elected with a plurality of votes eventually move to the middle or centrist position.
Again, Top Two will eventually lead to a One Party State!
Top 2 may make the existing MINORITY Rule even worse.
1/2 (or less) votes x 1/2 pack/crack gerrymander areas = 1/4 (or less) CONTROL.
If there are 2 Ds or Rs, then the winning amount will likely be less than if there were 1 D , 1 R and other candidates.
—-
NO primaries.
P.R. and nonpartisan App.V.
It appears that someone is paying “James Ogle” a handsome wage to post his rantings extolling the virtues of majority rule. It appears his education lacked the essential component that the USA was designed as a republic rather than a democracy, because the founders knew well the problems and inevitable historical progression of democracies into anarchy and then dictatorships. The “Top Two” measures’ actual and historically-documented effect has been to protect incumbents and establish one-party rule. The Top Two agenda is that of eventual dictatorship, unless the voters reject it while you still can. Vote NO on this anti-American measure! Do not let yourself be led astray by the “majority rule” argument. Read and learn about the places where it’s been implemented to see for yourself the destruction of the voice of the individual.