The Los Angeles Times has this lengthy story about the American Independent Party of California. One of the interesting details in the second half of the article is the quote from a party leader that the party definitely wants to nominate Donald Trump for President in November if he doesn’t get the Republican nomination and if he wants to continue running for president. Thanks to Gene Berkman for the link.
I read a summary of the article published by the AP. A copy is here: http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/thousands-voters-celebrities-register-wrong-party-38468102
A part of the AP article says:
“The Times reported that the mistaken registration could prevent people from casting votes in the June 7 presidential primary, which is considered California’s most competitive in recent years. Voters affiliated with the American Independent Party will only be allowed to vote for candidates on the party’s ballot, the Times reported. The Republicans will have a closed primary, while the Democrats will allow unaffiliated voters to participate.”
I’m confused about this. I’ve been under the impression that California got rid of party primaries when top two passed. If I’m reading this right, am I correct to assume a California voter gets a ballot for president with their preferred party’s candidates on it and then another ballot with the non-presidential races on it?
I think a logical way to solve this would be for the state to add an unaffiliated (this is the term NC uses for those who don’t want to be in a party) choice to the voter form, let the AIP sort it out or get rid of registration by party altogether.
This only applies to presidential primaries in California. All other primary elections are under “Top Two”.
Between the AIP, the LP and Fairvote, BAN has some incredibly incompetent allies.
They’re not holding a complete set of marbles between the four of them.
I will still be on the AIP ballot June 7th.
@ Ogle:
But, the bronzes are nice…
J R Myers
You will be on the ballot on June 7, 2016, In fact you will be on two ballots at that time. By ballot
I mean ballot types. If fact it will be hundreds of ballots in format. There can be also ballots with
error like happened in both Los Angles and San Francisco County in resent past.
Cassle will not appear on the ballot, but he can appear as a write-in if I helped him. My concern is
the lack of credential to seat Charles Deemer at the CP convention when he is the [California] State
chairman of a cabal called an “Independent Party”. Deemer placed himself in a status to vote a AIP
primary ballot. Grundmann after checking did not do the same.
If California Electors are so inclined J. R. Myers could receive up to about 4.8 million votes from
the California electorate.
Sincerely, Mark Seidenberg, Chairman, American Independent Party of California
Does anyone still have the rules of the 2016 Constitution Party Convention at Salt Lake City of 2016?
Also can J. R. Myers obtain the proceedings of the rules and credentials committees of that CP
Convention. I would like to submit them to the Federal Court hearing in Sacramento, CA on May 2, 2016.
Mark Seidenberg, Chairman, American Independent Party of California
Casual Bystander/etc.
Your statement is not correct.
Mark Seidenberg
Please feel free to correct me, Mark.
Doesn’t the Constitution Party seat people from the Independent American Party at their convention? Same for Michigan where they are known as the US Taxpayers Party. As long as the CP credentials them, what is the problem with them having a different party affiliation? The CP has always been a confederacy of several parties.
Wasn’t Ron Paul a lifetime member of the Libertarian Party when he served as a Republican Congressman?
I thought that the AIP Primary for President is not binding, but is in reality a preference poll and that the party can name whoever they really want for president regardless of the primary result.
@Casual Bystander,
Since Mark Seidenberg mentioned two ballot styles, he was probably also referring to the election of party officers.
Even when parties open their presidential primaries to non-members, they keep their elections of party officers closed. Voters are given a ballot with all the offices they may vote on.
So there are actually 10 different ballots for each location.
AI: AI presidential, AI party offices, + all Top 2, nonpartisan, ballot issues.
AI(request): AI presidential, + all Top 2, nonpartisan, ballot issues.
Dem: Dem presidential, Dem party offices, + all Top 2, nonpartisan, ballot issues.
Dem(request): Dem presidential, + all Top 2, nonpartisan, ballot issues.
Lbt: Lbt presidential, + all Top 2, nonpartisan, ballot issues.
Lbt(request): Lbt presidential, + all Top 2, nonpartisan, ballot issues.
Rep: Rep presidential, Rep party offices, + all Top 2, nonpartisan, ballot issues.
Grn: Grn presidential, Grn party offices, + all Top 2, nonpartisan, ballot issues.
P&F: P&F presidential, P&F party offices, + all Top 2, nonpartisan, ballot issues.
(nonrequestor): all Top 2, nonpartisan, ballot issues.
The Libertarians are the only parties that don’t choose their party officers at the presidential primary.
Voters who have No Party Preference, or who prefer a party not participating in the presidential primary may request to vote in the AI, Dem, or Lbt presidential primary. If they don’t make a request, they are given the ballot with only Top 2, nonpartisan, and ballot issues.
Thanks for the information, Mr. Riley.
The greatest crime and criminality that the L.A. Times can investigate and expose is the criminal act of deliberately filing fake documents with the Secretary of State office as Seidenberg and Robinson did to steal the party which they could not otherwise gain control of.
On April 18, 2016, “The Sacramento Bee” published a much shorter article on this subject. It was from “The Associated Press” that mentioned the survey by “The Los Angeles Times” about this problem. It certainly is a very interesting situation. Personally, I want think about all of this some more before making any further comments.