The Intercept has this excellent article about Democrats who complain about the Green Party running candidates in close elections, and yet who refuse to support any efforts for the cure. It focuses on the August 7 special congressional election this year in Ohio, and also the 2016 presidential election. The Intercept is an on-line news source established in 2014. The piece is by Briahna Gray, Senior Politics Editor of The Intercept, and reporter Zaid Jilani. Thanks to Rob Richie for the link.
Thankfully they don’t grow close to Rob Richie’s one party system like in SF, Oakland, Maine and other areas where ranked choice voting (RCV) in single-winner districts has been adopted.
America is a melting pot and everyone agrees that we need fair competition and not one where one party is guaranteed to win year after you.
We want to unite genders in a multi-partisan team of POTUS and Vice-POTUS, like Trump, Hillary, Johnson and Stein couldn’t do in 2016 calls for unity.
Are you interested in pure proportional representation, where single-winner districts are prohibited, and multiple winners vie to be best team players?
The United Coalition has been using parliamentary procedures under pure proportional representation (PPR) for more than twenty-three consecutive years and PPR works fine.
http://www.international-parliament.org/ucc.html
Top 2 would provide the same benefit and would be simpler to implement.
Top Two is three-party system and not near the quality of pure proportional representation (PPR).
JR,
Why randomly pick an inferior three-party system when the best is an exact portrait of state-wide voters for the state-wide assembly (or Congress, etc.) where all choices are considered and calibrated into the make-up if the assembly?
The article also boosts proportional representation.
Jim Riley, top-two absolutely does not stop the phenomena known as “spoiling”. In top-two, “spoiling” occurs frequently. It’s just that it is done in the primary.
The FairVote group and CoFOE have done great harm to individuals seeking fair treatment in elections and the one-party system is no good and now great efforts to repeal that is needed.
NO primaries.
PR and AppV – pending Condorcet (RCV done correctly)
GERRYMANDER MATH EXAMPLES
DTS A B TOT
3 DISTS
2 51 50 101
1 0 101 101
2 102 100 202
1 0 101 101
3 102 201 303
TOTPCT 33.7 66.3 100.0
xxx xxx xxx xxx
101 DISTS – EXTREME
51 51 50 101
50 0 101 101
51 2601 2550 5151
50 0 5050 5050
101 2601 7600 10201
TOTPCT 25.5 74.5 100.0
xxx xxx xxx xxx
101 DISTS – 55-46
51 55 46 101
50 30 71 101
51 2805 2346 5151
50 1500 3550 5050
101 4305 5896 10201
51PCT 27.5 23.0 50.5
50PCT 14.7 34.8 49.5
TOTPCT 42.2 57.8 100.0
NOTE THE 42.2 PCT —
POSSIBLE INDEFINITE MINORITY RULE.
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PR AND APPV
Thanks to FairVote and CoFOE who support the one party system in SF, Oakland, Maine and all other single-winner districts under RCV we have more and more gerrymandering like in SF which consists of eleven gerrymandered districts.
The United Coalition USA has been informing both Rob Richie and many others that single-winner, gerrymandered districts under RCV insures a one party system but we have been rebuffed since 1993 by them.
As a result there has been many actions by them which harm to United Coalition’s twenty-three year effort.
Our team effort of all parties and independents had concrete accomplishments such as the All Party System Co., a USA C Corp which brings PPR to the USA Securities and Exchange, as just one example of the progress.
As POTUS candidates in 2012 Roseanne Barr and James Ogle were co-founders, along with two other 2012 POTUS candidates, and we help kick-start PPR within corporate laws.
http://www.allpartysystem.com
All Party System Co.
James, COFOE has no position on ranked choice voting. And Maine is certainly not a one-party state. It has many independents in public office and three parties represented in the state legislature.
Richard, multiple parties in Maine will be terminated as each single winner district adopts RCV in Maine because only the largest party/civic group will be guaranteed to win 100% of the time like SF and that’s a one-party system.
Also CoFOE site had promoted the use of RCV in single-winner districts since 1995 and in 2018 CoFOR advocated the initiative in Santa Clara to divide the town but that iniative lost.
Richard, I was the vote counter and organiser with California Citizens for Proportional Representation in 1993 with Jim Lindsay (Democratic) and about ten others.
After the election I organised Cameron Spritzer (Green) didn’t like what I wrote in Usenet about the Environmentalist Party coordinating with everyone so well that when Google founder Sergio Brin joined our conversation and asked about my initials joogle, Spritzer had Lindsay throw me off the committee and also had Google turn all traffic away from my site.
We had not idea that Google would launch off our back and be so successful at that moment.
http://usparliament.org/how-google-got-its-name.php
Meanwhile, the citizens for proportional representation group CPR lost their way in SF but my group with the Environmentalist Party uses PPR correctly.
Now we have the one-party system in SF and we have a tougher go there for all candidates except Ds.
Party bosses ruin everything over and over, year after year, too many people settle for less than pure proportional representation and they self destruct and become dysfunctional, unreliable, not working towards the fair and perfect voting system that nurtures teamwork based on numerals marked on paper ballots.
No mention of the impact of the Libertarian Party, even tho its candidates often get more votes and have more impact on the outcome than the Greens. I am wondering if much of the opposition to ranked choice voting comes from politicians who are afraid of Libertarian voters because they don’t have a clue where those Libertarian #2 votes would go.
The online bullying by Green Party boss Cameron Spitzer commenced in 1993, continued through 2012 when I introduced the Roseanne Barr campaign to Green Party State convention in 2012.
WZ, it will be our goal to have a united ticket in 2020.
Men, we unite a male and female ticket, from two different parties.
The Green and Libertarian Parties are small enough and the United Coalition USA is trying to change the plan.
Not like Trump, Hillary, Johnson and Stein couldn’t do in 2016 but united across party lines and maybe across gender lines too.
Only 25.4% of elected state legislatures are female but 0% female POTUS/V-POTUS, 0%, have been women. The United Coalition system changes that but we need volunteers, guideline writers, etc.
Sign up and play a role in the new unity phenomena that’s sweeping the world:
http://www.allpartysystem.com
Men, we have a female Green for US Senate in New Jersey and a female Libertarian for US Congress in California.
Make headway to prioritise their names above their opposite gender.
There is also a male Libertarian for US Senate in New Jersey and a male Green candidate for US Congress in California.
We ask the female volunteers to coordinate with those males.
We do anything we can with regard to this set of national candidates. Our team is organising volunteers now and we have a 2nd volunteer from Turkey (the first being from India) but we are improving the team:
http://www.allpartysystem.com/volunteers.php
Men, we have a female Green for US Senate in New Jersey and a female Libertarian for US Congress in California.
Make headway to prioritise their names above their opposite gender.
There is also a male Libertarian for US Senate in New Jersey and a male Green candidate for US Congress in California.
We ask the female volunteers to coordinate with those males.
We do anything we can with regard to this set of national candidates. Our team is organising volunteers now and we have a 2nd volunteer from Turkey (the first being from India) but we are improving the team:
http://www.allpartysystem.com/volunteers.php
It seems like Steve Hill, Jim Lindsay and Cameron Spitzer were operating under the plurality psychogy just like the one which establishment political parties operate in which the “President” (in this case Jim Lindsay) was supposed to throw the vote counter/ballot preparer/post-mailer, to throw them off the CPR committee and that’s what Jim Lindsay did to me at the request of Cameron Spitzer.
That’s where they went wrong, somehow lost the math for pure proportional representation and so implemented the failed system by Rob Richie into the SF city elections.
I know how this should have been handled instead, and that would be like the way the All Party System Co. and the owners, the United Coalition’s Republic of Earth Parliament do it.
Problems in the executive with our group, the executive being a five-person team, would be handled as a vote of confidence by the whole set of five.
Not done, where the President demands the resignation of one Exec, like happened with California CPR in 1993/4 when Spitzer demanded that Lindsay remove me James Ogle from the board that I had just helped to facilitate to elect.
The United Coalition doesn’t have these problems with our executives’ votes of confidence, we don’t have them because our votes of confidence have always been open-ended, ongoing and perpetual.
Our advances in 2018 will be made more clear on 1/1/2019 when the latest evolutions on the Unity Platform and our Ten Executives begin the votes of confidence starting the new cycle every January 1st.
We’re set up to bring new platform items and new names to both our ballot and to be swiftly elected, a dynamic which will be global and national simultaneously and will replicate the United Coalition California:
http://www.usparliament.org/ss11.php
The idea that Top Two would be a cure is just another way of saying that alternative candidates shouldn’t even be allowed on the ballot. That’s essentially what happens when instead of barring them from the ballot altogether they are only allowed to participate in the primary and not in the real election, as that is the practical result.
How many NEW Age public government regimes have 2 or more TOP/CHIEF/SUPREME executive branch officers ???
Public stuff more than a little different from private *clubby* stuff ???
Women make up 19.3% of Congress so why can’t Top Two imply gender balance?
The third parties must unite voters to attain 33.33% (plus one vote), the guaranteed election threshold under Top Two, an equal unbiased number for all parties and independents.
Plus when more than three names are on the primary ballot under Top Two, then random unfair wins occur because of the split vote problem.
Top Two is more acceptable than any single-winner election system because Top Two is a three-party system and single winner plurality elections are two-party systems.
The One Party System:
http://www.allpartysystem.com/one.php
Single-winner Vs Top Two
Guaranteed threshold for plurality elections in single-winner districts (before random split vote problem) = 50% (plus one vote) = two-party system
Guaranteed threshold for plurality elections in Top Two districts (before random split vote problem) = 33.33% (plus one vote) = three-party system
NOTE: The Top Two system is slightly better because a three-party system is slightly better than a two-party system.
How many *main* URLS in the JO URL universe ???
http://www.aaaaazzzzz.com
2 or more = more CONFUSION
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Droop_quota
since 1868 — a mere 150 years.
Basic PR again –
Party Members = Party Votes x Total Members / Total Votes
TM/TV = Ratio [NOT the Droop Quota] — IF each member is to have a ONE voting power in the legis body —
EQUAL voters elect each Member.
Higher tech – Variable/UNEQUAL Voting Powers [VP] per Member.
Difficult only for the many mass media math morons [M5] and SCOTUS morons [??? SCUM].
@Chris Powell,
Calling the general election a “real election” is sophistry. Is a primary election a fake election or maybe an unreal election? “Man, like that primary election was sooh unreal!”
To: United Coalition
From: All Party System Co. Treasurer James Ogle [One]
We at the United Coalition apologise for the appearance that policy is set from multiple geo-levels during transition from the USA geo-level to the global geo-level.
The USA political and business entities will complete the transition of ownership from the USA Parliament to the International Parliament on October 8th, 2018.
Political USA
http://www.usparliament.org
Business USA
http://www.allpartysystem.org
Political International
http://www.international-parliament.org
Business International
http://www.allpartysystem.com
primary election = first PRE-*real* [general/final] election.
ONE *REAL* election DAY — NO primaries, caucuses, conventions, runoff primaries, runoff general elections.
PR and AppV
A partisan primary, or a top-two primary, is not an “election” because no one can possibly be elected at such an event.
Again –
generic *election* = making 1 or more choices.
generic *primary = first
ONE election DAY — reduce time torture on Voters.
PR and AppV