On January 23, the Colorado Senate State, Veterans & Military Affairs Committee passed SB 19-42, the National Popular Vote Plan bill. The vote was party-line, with all Democrats voting “yes” and all Republicans voting “no.”
This makes the second state this month in which a National Popular Vote Plan bill has made some headway. The other state is New Mexico.
How did the “National Popular Vote Plan bill” wind up in the “Veterans & Military Affairs Committee”?
@Brandon… It’s the “State, Veterans & Military Affairs Committee”. So I’m guessing the State part is what warrants it being there.
Both New Mexico and Colorado would be better with ranked choice voting for Presidential electors. They would better contribute to electing a candidate with overall majority support, without surrendering their status as swing states.
Just getting ready for Demo Rep. Feel the dribble: https://www2.startwire.com/jobs/san-antonio-tx/sa-food-demo-rep-showtime-55612196?source=seo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Popular_Vote_Interstate_Compact
Save link for future machinations.
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How many pre-skooool MORONS are on this list —
who post ZERO facts, legal points, etc. ???
— Just their MORON junk about some other persons/posts.
Getting ready for another MORON obsession post.
I agree with Walt. IIRC, sometime last decade, there was a proposal put to voters in Colorado that their electors be allocated in proportion to the popular vote within the state. It sounded good (and this is frankly the direction I’d like to us go toward), but opposition to it coalesced around the idea that it would diminish Colorado’s influence in national elections, because, effectively, only one of their electoral votes would be subject to swing. That argument caught on, and the proposal was defeated. For Colorado, I think endorsing NPV would be a variation of this, though possibly worse. It’s surprising to me that this has advanced.
@TomP,
The Colorado initiative was funded by a Californian with no ties to Colorado. Under the Colorado constitution an approved initiative effect when the vote is canvassed.
The initiative had a provision that it would take effect on election day if approved. It was on the November 2004 ballot, coincident with the presidential election.
Presidential electors are deemed to be appointed on election day, even though it is not ascertained who was appointed until some time later. So in Colorado, if the initiative had passed it would have meant that the electors would have been appointed, and then some time later that a different set of electors would have been chosen. It also included a provision that a recount on the initiative would be ordered if the result were close.
It also had a weird formula for “proportionally” allocating electors. At the time, Colorado had 8 electors, which makes it difficult in a close race to get a 5:3 majority. The initiative would essentially have transferred votes from spoiler candidates to the winner. Based on the 2000 results, Nader had enough support in Colorado to have resulted in a 5:3 Bush:Gore split. The proponents could advertise that result as being “fair” when actually a fairer allocation would have been 4:4.
If the 2016 election had been run using proportional allocation of electors it would have gone to the House of Representatives – assuming no dynamic effects.
D’Hondt Clinton 269, Trump 265, Johnson(CA, TX), Stein(CA), McMullin(UT)
Ste. Lague Clinton 263, Trump 262, Johnson 11, Stein 1, McMullin 1
Modified Ste. Lague Clinton 267, Trump 265, Johnson 4, Stein 1, McMullin 1
Did Civil WAR II start on Election Night 2016 ???
Does the Sun still rise in the East ???
How many folks LOVE having KILLERS in the White House oval office — plotting to kill more humans ???
How many UN-declared WARS in USA History due to such KILLERS [and their KILLER gangster adviser stooge HACKS] – foreign and domestic [latter against American Indian tribes] ???
See the statist Stalin and Hitler KILLER gangs at work — perhaps 70-100 million dead humans ???
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PR and AppV
Breaking news here in the United Coalition USA camp.
The Go Ogle 2020 campaign for POTUS has a woman for POTUS from Green Party who will be vying for Electors on the PPR Elector College Election 2020 and she is already scheduling monthly internet video debates among all Green POTUS candidates.
We will also be using the unity as a springboard for the Mark Herd 2022 campain to bring PPR to Los Angeles city elections. She is a resident of LA County.
The party bosses didn’t want the LP membership to know about our team and they snuffed us out at every possible opportunity and despite the slander and censorship we won the only state of Missouri with 52.7%.
Missouri was the only POTUS primary which fell before the LP national convention in 2012.
Go Ogle won with 52.7%,
Ogle was the Libertarian who won, Johnson was on the ballot as a Republican, and the California team won despite the party bosses.
Now we have an official coalition again in 2020, the Green/One option for POTUS, to unite the 100% and I am the One who is a CA LP dues-payer.
For those who are interested in the winning team, we accessed the Missouri ballot for free (not for $1000. as the bosses want you to believe) and all the other LP candidates could have also been on that 2012 Missouri ballot for free but they didn’t.
Our success was because of Republicans, Greens and Democratics on my team, Libertarian Miss Joy Waymire and more LP POTUS candidates on the United Coalition USA team who played key roles while the LP party bosses just brought us hostility, conflict and vile behavior.
There was no equal treatment and equal time, and our team was demoralized by those in charge.
For example when I told Carla Howell, national LP exec that I was in coalition with Roseanne Barr, her reply at the LP convention was “You mean that fat bitch? “.
But Roseanne is a sweet woman, Emmy Award winning actress, she was bringing Green Tea Party, Roseannarchists and hundred of people to the team with one tweet.
Again we have a Green/One Unity for POTUS in 2020 despite the self-destructive nature of the LP bosses, we are decades ahead, because the party bosses don’t want anyone to know about how the United Coalition had been affecting the national politic for more than twenty-three consecutive years by counting paper ballots as proof under pure proportional representation (PPR).
Us men are doing all the heavy lifting and we want the women candidates to simply play good music.
If 66.66% of the men unite behind the best female choice(s) for POTUS and VP, then we can make history, and one or both, President and/or Vice President, might be a Libertarian.
It’s better to have one of the two seats and be part of government as a team, than to demand both seats and win nothing at all.
What *regular* USA national pollsters have asked ANY question about the *United Coalition USA * ???
Is ANY minor party stuff before the latest Prez election totally obsolete
— like some tribal stuff from 100,000 years or more BC ???
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@JB,
The word ‘college’ is nowhere in the Constitution.
Proposed amendment:
(1) Presidential Electors apportioned among the United States and their territories on the basis of citizen voting age population, with at least one per 50,000 such persons.
(2) Presidential electors shall be elected by the electors of their respective State and territories. The time, place, and manner set by the legistatures, subject to congressional override.
(3) Electors meet as a single body and elect the president and vice president by majority vote. Congress sets the time and place. If simultaneous communication is established, separate physical locations may be used.
(4) 12th and 23rd amendments repealed.
How come all sorts of top State/Local executive officers get elected by the human Electors/Voters in the States/Localities and the regimes somehow manage to survive ??
— with periodic major scandals [esp pay to play contract FELONY bribes — since the gerrymander MORONS in State legislatures do NOT know how to handle govt contracts after 6,000 plus years).
Since when is a mere USA Prez in the USA FEDERAL regime some sort of occult office ??? —
requiring all sorts of occult / DARK AGE indirect machinations ???
[possible answer — since the SCOTUS MORONS have made the office into a god/monarch/TYRANT office since 1861/1917/1933/1941/1950]
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@DR,
Maine only elects its governor. All other executive officers are chosen by the legislature.
Many cities choose their mayor from among the city council. The same is true for school districts where the superintendent is chosen by the school board.
How many above average corrupt exec/judic HACKS when they are picked by corrupt gerrymander hacks ???
prime example —
see SCOTUS 9 super-HACKS — chosen by HACK Prezs and approved by HACK USA Senators.
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PR and AppV — if needed– MULTIPLE ballots for ALL top offices —
may cause SOME attention to Consts and Laws.
That turns us from a representative republic into a mob-ruled “democracy.” Right up the socialists’ alley. The Constitution spells out how electoral votes are to be tallied and reported, and this would violate that process. The Colorado Constitution prohibits laws that violate the US Constitution. But the law never stopped evil intent, did it??
Leslie, every state elects its Governor with a popular vote. Do you think every state ought to choose its governor with a state electoral college?
@RW,
Russia elects its president by popular vote, do youthink the USA should be more like Russia?