On September 16, the Working Families Party announced that it endorses Elizabeth Warren for the Democratic nomination. See this story. Thanks to Thomas Jones for the link.
On September 16, the Working Families Party announced that it endorses Elizabeth Warren for the Democratic nomination. See this story. Thanks to Thomas Jones for the link.
How many New Age left/right special interest factions/gangs are there now ???
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PR — to represent any gang with Total Votes / Total Members in a legislative body —
TV/TM = RATIO
1 RATIO = 1 Member
Too difficult for math moron lawyers and judges ???
What else can you expect from a bunch of socialists?
Considering Warren isn’t a socialist and the Working Families Party isn’t socialist (nor claim to be, on both counts, actually), I’m not sure how that comment makes sense.
Everyone knows socialists change the definition of socialism at will to suit their needs. Is the Nordic Model socialist? Yes! No! Sometimes! Maybe! Sometimes socialism is strictly worker ownership of the means of production, and it doesn’t count unless 100% of the global economy is socialized. Other times socialists will claim a 40 hour work week and paid breaks are socialist.
Were the USSR and nazi regimes *socialist* ???
— with *socialist* in their regime names.
Which dictionary definition of *socialist* is New Age politically correct ???
If you talk to people who tend to call themselves socialists (and actually affiliate with a tendency) and not just stop at progressives, they’ll be happy to point out the flaws and failings of the quasi-capitalist Nordic model, which I believe is mainly social democracy, which many on the far-left of the spectrum would disavow and say aren’t socialist. The fact that there’s ideological disagreement between different socialist tendencies doesn’t really mean all that much.
“Socialists don’t change the definition”, the definition morphs depending on who is talking and why. Frankly, the progressives have completely poisoned the well, all while being well-meaning. No, firefighters aren’t socialism. Police isn’t socialism. Socialism isn’t government control, it’s the workers owning the means of production. It’s not like many U.S. citizens have ever really had a grasp on the word anyway considering the decades long propaganda, but liberals and progressives co-opting the term has not helped matters in the slightest.
Paleoconservatives and neoconservatives and libertarians and anarcho-capitalists have, I assure you, different visions of conservatism and capitalism, so I’m not sure why the same ideological variance on the left can’t be accepted as well.
How much is *socialist* ie STATIST — 0 to 100 percent ??? —
ASSETS ownership – Land, fixed structures, movable, paper/financial
Goods/Services production [GDP parts]
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NEW AGE RED Donkeys – in 2019 USA Congress and DNC and CA Legis — 100.00000000 percent STATIST ???
James Mahoney – I have conversations with people of all ideologies almost daily. At least 95% of the time the comments made by people who self identify as one ideology about people of other ideologies should just be disregarded.
Sanders and AOC referring to the Nordic Model as socialist aside, I was being a little facetious with the Warren/Working Families/Socialist/Nordic Model comment. I know Warren is a Social Democrat, like the Nordic Model. But Social Democrats are basically just wannabe socialists who recognize that capitalism works better to grow the economy and are willing to let capitalism work while they vote away and redistribute the profits. The benefits of ownership, the profits, are all they really want, anyway. They don’t want to deal with the hassle of actual ownership.
I will grant that socialists who identify with a particular tendency up front are far less likely to slide between definitions. I suspect the reason they don’t attempt to slide between definitions is that they are trapped once they identify their tendency, but whatever. And those conversations are sometimes more productive, up to a point (and moreso with ancoms and libsocs than tankies.) But inevitably, even in the cases of the most polite and productive conversations, they are confronted with a question they can’t answer and respond either with silence or ad hominems.
It’s almost like there have been too few socialist theorists for the last hundred years and that is why they can’t answer many questions. That also would explain why I often see Ancoms and libsocs come to libertarian forums to request background material for shutting down Keynsians and MMT advocates.