Ian Milhiser has this article at Vox about all the details regarding possible statehood for the District of Columbia. The last part of the article is especially interesting, concerning legal issues.
The article also has a map showing the proposed boundaries of the new state. The new state would not encompass the entire District.
FEDERAL district — NOT under control of any State HACKS.
Federalist No. 43
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HR 51 bill = Just more of the RED communist Donkey machinations to take over ALL of the USA.
The Republicans are simply not thinking. What they ought to do now is seize the opportunity to create a new red state by taking all of Washington State and Oregon east of the Cascades, forming such a state, and attaching such a proposal to the DC bill. They may not have that option available in 2021.
https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/2020/06/26/washington-dc-statehood-house-vote-making-district-51st-state/3198707001/
House to vote on making DC the 51st state, but GOP opposition means bill unlikely to advance further
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IE DOA in ANTI-Democracy minority rule Senate.
Where is the 2nd top secret Federal Convention to END the various ANTI-Democracy minority rule election systems in the USA ??? — allowed/created by the 1787 top secret 1787 Federal Convention monarchs/oligarchs – along with various slavery clauses.
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WZ – need State legislature hacks approval to divide States 4-3-1.
1863 Total fraud creation of WV from VA during Civil War by Rump Union leg in N. VA occupied by Union Army — esp to protect W-E railroads in N part of WV.
Fraud upheld by SCOTUS Union hacks later — part of Civil WAR Const. ROT.
I have thought about something like this:
-California split into say 3 states
-Texas split into say 2 states
-Rhode Island disappears, becomes part of either Connecticut or Massachusetts
-Long Island and New York City split from Upstate New York, boundary around Westchester
-Chicagoland splits from rest of Illinois
-Delaware disappears, northern part joins Pennsylvania, southern part can join Maryland
-Vermont disappears, becomes part of either New Hampshire or the nascent Upstate New York remnant
-Puerto Rico is going to be annexed soon regardless
-the non-federal part of Washington retrocedes to Maryland, the District of Columbia becoming significantly smaller where it still has no representation in Congress
That’s 53 states.
Yeah, that’s a fantasy. Both the state and the US Congress have to approve a state splitting. That’s why it doesn’t happen.
DC statehood on the other hand is overdue, along with PR.
Well of course it’s a fantasy. Most everything written at Ballot Access News is.
It’s trying to drive a more common sense distribution of states based on population. The irony is if you got rid of the tiny population states, where it hurts the most is the northeast, which is all solid Democrat right now. The population center from every census has been consistently moving south and west.
I don’t agree with the Vox article about the future distribution of people. I doubt I’d find someone in the year 1900 that thought suburbs would ever become a thing. There’s already with this health crisis and remote working seemingly a permanent thing a ton of NYC real estate agents appearing on CNBC saying they keep getting calls from Brooklyn couples looking to move out of the city.
@ Ryan: I agree with a lot of what you say, except that I wouldn’t get rid of any small states. That just creates a lot of unnecessary opposition. IMO, a state should be split if the population of that state exceeds 5% of the national total. AT a minimum, CA could become 3-4 states, Texas 3, NY & FL 2 each. As for Puerto Rico, I would create a new status for them: associated state (like Micronesia, Palau and the Marshall Islands) with optional dual US & PR citizenship for the residents.
@ Mike: I think that creating new states will not be such a fantasy if DC becomes a state; IMO that would set off a whole bunch of new-state proposals.
DC is not part of any state now. That’s a big difference.
@ Mike: If it happens, politically it won’t be any different than the creation of any other new state. For that reason alone, it will inspire attempts to create new states in other places. Whether those attempts will be successful will depend on the composition of Congress in upcoming years. If Congress is divided, probably no new states will be created. If both Houses are controlled by one party or the other, efforts will be made to create more new states, which, if partisan advantage changes in a following election, will set off competing new state proposals from the other party.
The difference is that no state legislature and governor have to allow it to secede. Creating a new state from party of an existing state means you have to get that as well as federal approval. For DC you only need the second. And that’s a big difference.
I don’t think the Virginia state legislature ever approved West Virginia seceding before West Virginia came into existence.
Yeah, that was in a civil war. So short of that, no. How about something more realistic to the present day?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Virginia
RUMP machinations — UNION ARMY FORCE = 1863 new WV regime.
SCOTUS hacks upheld the rot after Civil WAR.
@ Mike: It wouldn’t surprise me if several state legislatures happily voted to split their states, if Congress gave them the opportunity.
They are allowed to now. But congress would still have to agree as well. Few states have any interest, and it doesn’t help that they know that if they take the time and effort congress will quash it. That’s why it doesn’t happen. The fact that you had to go back to the civil war to find your only example should tell you something.
1820 slavery crisis —
MA divided to create LOW pop ME [free State] to balance MO [slave State].
TOTAL crisis N-O-W — communist gerrymander States vs fascist gerrymander States.
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PR and APPV
TOTSOP
So, even earlier than the civil war. Got anything more recent, having something to do with the realities of today that are far different from the 19th century?