The Guardian Mulls Over Whether Jo Jorgensen Injured President Trump’s Vote Total

Posted on by November 8, 2020

The Guardian, one of the best-read and most influential newspapers in the United Kingdom, here analyzes whether people who voted for Jo Jorgensen would have voted for President Trump if the Libertarian Party had not run its own candidate. The conclusion is that it is impossible to know.

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The Guardian Mulls Over Whether Jo Jorgensen Injured President Trump’s Vote Total — 58 Comments

  1. What took place in CA 53 of the 58 county ROV’s ignored the California Election Code section 13205(b) & (c) and failed to give the required instruction as required by law.

    Therefore CA Elections Code 13200 will kick in and the votes of over 96.5% of the CA ballots will not be lawfully cast or counted in California

  3. It is a useless debate since there was no way the LP would not run their own candidate. They always do. Maybe this would be a worthy discussion if the GOP nominated a ‘libertarian’ Republican like Ron Paul or Rand Paul. But, why would they not nominate a candidate?

    This is not at all like analyzing Perot in 1992. He was an independent candidate and you can imagine him not running if he preferred another candidate. The LP is its own entity. And they nominated a candidate without much name recognition.

  4. I was seeing in the early moments of the election results coming in that Biden supporters on Twitter were cursing Jorgensen when he was falling behind Trump in Florida. The numbers now show that Trump has an outright majority in that state, yet now in the other states where Biden has a plurality that Trump supporters are cursing Jorgensen. This whole voting shaming / election blaming nonsense is simply a case of accusations “in the eye of the beholder”.

  6. Have you heard the rumor that the cyberpig is living in a cardboard box under the Queensboro bridge? Is he trying to make people feel sorry for him? Is this another scam like that fake veterans scam he was involved with?

  7. Condorcet with Appv tiebreaker —

    regardless of all math folks who barely detect 2 is more than 1 — aka plurality folks.

  8. How many fascist Elephant attacks on LP in Twitter / Facebook / etc ???

    Which gang has the lowest median IQ –

    commies or fascists ???

    Both circa 80-85 ???

  9. REAL libertarians do NOT vote for EVIL statists — greater or lesser.

    Doing so only increases EVIL statism.
    —
    PR and AppV – pending Condorcet
    TOTSOP

  10. The Guardian? This is the paper that couldn’t even spell its name properly in the masthead. You are using this far left inaccurate paper as a source now? Might as well use Infowars as a balance.

  11. The Guardian’s opinion columns are unashamedly left wing. However, its factual reporting is usually pretty good. The comparison on the right would not be Infowars or even the Daily Mail but rather the Daily Telegraph.

    Its paper circulation is quite low but its website has a much wider reach.

  12. What do you guys think of ancient Aryan astronaut theory? I think this was discussed on another of these political blogs a few years ago but I don’t remember what it was called. Any way this blog had a lot of racist trolls for quite a few years who were kinda obsessed with hobos with clipboards for some weird reason and they kept having fights and accusing each other of horrible crimes and some of them actually did get arrested from time to time for everything from election and charity fraud to trespassing, aggressive soliciting and terroristic threats and there were allegations of animal cruelty, auto theft, and even murder.

    Most people haven’t heard of ancient Aryan astronaut theory so here’s a little bit more about that in case you are not already familiar to start the discussion off.

    https://tinyurl.com/y33645hz

  13. When you search “One Black Panther” for President we can’t get any outcome at all and we only got about 25 clicks on our YouTube video so the United Coalition USA didn’t affect the results and our team won because we were for a female name elected #1 for men and a male name at #1 for women. The majority won though men wanted a female name.

    See the 7-minute Video; “Write In 1Ogle/Jamison for US President [One/Black Panther]” 2020
    https://youtu.be/d-8pBFlMefw

  14. Hey Carlos I think I remember that too. I think what happened was that the racist posts started out as ancient Aryan astronaut and then went through a bunch of different names but at some point had their own blog under the name Vernon or Victor or something with a v. But that blog got taken down though. There was also an Andy Jacobs blog at one point which may have been connected to that, right?

    So also in this time frame there was a bunch of trolls who were mostly obsessed with sex and gender issues and people’s appearances that went through a whole bunch of names too, like concerned citizen, Nathan Norman, Egyptian god etc. Which also turned super racist as well after a while.

    Looking at your link I read down to the suggested links section at the bottom and there was one about Andy embracing white power and 14 words with a bunch of his posts about white genocide which is now called the great replacement. Many fine people were chanting about it in Charlottesville while sporting stylish haircuts and tiki torches.

    So anyway I don’t know what all this means and I’m not really sure what I think about ancient Aryan astronauts but it’s fascinating for sure, that I can tell you, believe me.

  16. I don’t see how Maine publishing or not publishing the results of their dumps tells us anything whatsoever about ancient Aryan astronaut theory. Let’s stay on topic here folks.

  18. God the nuttery is heavy here today.

    ZERO idea what Mark is talking about, other than knowing whatever it is, it is untrue and sounds like a conspiracy theory.

    Donnie/Andrew? Nope. Both untrue. Guardian’s opinion pages are British equivalent of mainstream liberal. Nothing further left than that.

    Don’t feed the ancient Aryan trolls anything other than clipboards shoved in their mouths.

  19. Another voice, I am seething too. These libertarian punks would have cost us the election and caused an absolute disaster with a Chinese communist crime family member and an Olga booga witch doctor Marxist cannibal priestess replacing our perfect President who is literally the second coming of Jesus…all because of their phony libertarian Marxist candidates. Good thing that the supreme court will put an end to this attempted election theft and will let us keep TRUMP in office FOREVER, but still. The punishment for this treachery must be extremely severe.

  20. This is the first time I’ve ever heard of this ancient Aryan astronaut stuff. Seems legit.

  21. It’s becoming increasingly clear that ranked choice voting is the logical method for Presidential elections. It can be implemented in any state without a constitutional amendment, or interstate compact. It is the rational method of sorting out voters’ intentions in the swing states without costly run-offs. AND, it’s also the way to go with crowded Presidential primaries.

  22. Rank TRUMP 1, turn your ballot in. Seems simple enough. But why even bother voting? Just crown HIM Emperor and then we don’t need to worry about this hoopla and circus ever again since HE is perfect and immortal.

  23. Punish the lootertarian traitors then once they are dealt with you can tell me about these ancient astronauts, but let’s focus on getting each and every one of these Marxist jo the Marxist ho trying to help steal the election for Marxist Joe traitors. They need to feel the pain.

  24. Let’s not forget the l.p. Could have chosen to nominate nota and endorse TRUMP so they have no excuse for their perfidy.

  28. I feel like I’m not really learning anything new about ancient Aryan astronauts from you people.

  29. @ Demo Rep:

    Condorcet is the ideal method. BUT, there isn’t always a Condorcet winner. RCV should find the Condorcet winner, but, if there isn’t any, then the winner should be the highest vote getter on the final round.

  31. I find it interesting that the Secretary of defense was just fired today. Here’s the way this is likely to play out:

    Lawsuits reach supreme court, expedited. They rule in favor if keeping TRUMP. Commies stage the biggest burn loot murder chimpout of all time. Now it’s time for the military to move in and restore order. So, that’s when it becomes important who heads up the military. My guess is that TRUMP talked to esper and the disloyal runt wasn’t fully prepared to do what’s needed and use full military force to keep TRUMP in office and brutally suppress the looters and rioters who don’t like it. So, he had to go and we are now one step closer to the promised Kingdom of Heaven on earth.

  32. Not long left til we get to the point where when TRUMP says you’re fired big flames engulf you as you scream in front of a cheering packed stadium and national and global tv audience.

  34. You’re still not doing anything to add to the conversation about ancient Aryan astronauts. What voting method do you reckon they preferred?

  35. No way to semi-proportional representation. Second biggest faction can win due to split-vote problem without RCV and the single transferable vote.

    Only the Hagenbach-Bishoff Method using numerals correctly under RCV and STV.

    By coincidence the United Coalition USA has been using the correct math since 1992 and in 1997 the founder of Google launched off our backs, targeted our names in agreement with one-party insider bosses.

    The situation is very urgent and the One Party is leading the way by bringing the three-party system or the 539-party system to the 538-member Electoral College.

    http://www.pprelectoralcollege.com

  36. You’re lying. The one party system is GOP AND TRUMP ONLY. we’re not bring any 2, 3 or 530whatever party system.

  37. The Ownership Foundation is but one PAC that is approved to transfer funds back and forth between Trump and Biden campaigns according to Advisory Opinion by FEC.

    Democratics + Republicans = one-party dictatorship

    The PPR Electoral College is bringing the 539-party system to the 538-member Electoral College and we are signing the team players now.

    President Demetra Wysinger [Wxyz New Day] is the initial contact for improvements being made in guidelines for PPR Electoral College.

    Join the PPR Caucus today and collaborate with team players in the 538-member PPR Electoral College.

    http://www.pprelectoralcollege.com

  40. You people suck. I’m not learning anything about ancient Aryan astronauts here. Can anyone at least point me to a link to learn more?

  43. I am glad that Donald Trump lost, not so glad that Joe Biden won. I would never vote for either one of those candidates. I gladly voted for Jo Jorgenson, not to spoil anything but to show my opposition to the bipartisan big government crowd.
    Nonetheless, I am glad to see it highlighted that Jorgenson and the Libertarian Party got more than the difference i several states – currently in Arizona, Georgia & Pennsylvania. Griping by Republican losers gives us more visibility. And griping by Walter Block should tell real libertarians that they should not pay attention to him – a fact I have known for 51 years.

  44. Despite the title, the long and boring left wing propaganda article posted by Demo rep has no information about ancient Aryan astronauts. Even the iprx article which started this discussion had more information about them and it had very little.

  46. I guess that must mean you’re below 25 iq then given that you have not only failed to synthesize and give intelligent comment and opinion on the subject at hand but even the minimal task of coming up with articles actually about the subject as opposed to mentioning it in the title and ignoring it in the body.

  48. Thanks bro, I’ll be tuning in. Hopefully they will really focus on the whole Aryan angle. I would like to learn more about how they fit in to the whole ancient alien puzzle and see how different outlets and sources cover that.

  52. Dude, that is totally rude and, like, random. I’m not a Nazi or an Aryan but I think it’s an interesting subject and I was wondering what people here thought about that. Don’t go jumping to conclusions you rude cancel culture pc grayface mindbot. You sound like a Stalinist thought police commissar with your extreme hatred for people who are just asking questions.

  53. wikis – more trust than in Trump nazi troll pre-skoool moron posts — about 1 trillion to 1.

    Prove me wrong ??? Duh.

  54. There’s nothing to prove wrong because you haven’t said anything, just posted irrelevant links and acted like some kind of hall monitor bully authority while calling people names and making completely erroneous assumptions just because someone is asking questions you apparently want to sweep under the rug for some weird reason.

  55. Besides making false assumptions, jumping to conclusions and being rude and totally weird you also seem to maybe have me confused with someone else, or maybe you are talking to voices on your head. And you seem to think I am here to prove a case whereas I am actually just asking questions and sharing what little information I do have hoping to learn more and get different people’s opinions. You know, like a civilized conversation. Have you ever tried having one? How many years has it been? Do you talk to people in person the way you do on here? I guess I should ask, do you even talk to people in person at all?

  56. Seriously, when was the last time you actually had a face to face conversation with anyone? How about one where you didn’t throw a tantrum and call people names as soon as they didn’t agree with you or asked questions you didn’t like? If you don’t act this way in real life why do you think it’s ok to be such a rude jerk hiding behind your phone?

  57. I just checked out Infowars and they have several pieces of evidence on how the election was rigged and how Creepy Dementia Joe will take our freedoms away. Check it out.

  58. Great info at infowars. People who are paying attention realize that the secretary of defense and soon to be heads of fbi and cia being replaced is no accident. The defense, intel, homeland security and department of justice federal law enforcement apparatus are being mobilized to defend TRUMP after the supreme court rules in his favor in all the election related lawsuits. Then, the insurrection act and national emergency will be invoked when the left wing scum take to burn, loot and murder because they don’t like it. Bureaucrats who are not on board are being moved out of the way.

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