Pennsylvania State Court Allows a Trial on Reliability of ExpressVote XL Machines

A Pennsylvania Commonwealth Court judge has ruled that some voters are entitled to a trial over the reliability of vote-counting machines used in Philadelphia and Northampton Counties. See this story. The machines, known as ExpressVote XL, are manufactured by Elections Software & Systems (ESS) Corporation. They work by having a voter insert a blank ballot into the machine. Then the voter uses the computer touch-screen to mark the ballot.

Most vote-counting machines in the U.S. are different. They ask the voter to fill out a paper ballot, which is then inserted into the vote-counting device.


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Pennsylvania State Court Allows a Trial on Reliability of ExpressVote XL Machines — 14 Comments

  1. That’s too complicated for the average voter. Where I am at in West Virginia the dumb hillbillies took 40 minutes each to vote electronic because they had to be instructed. Duh!

  2. 19 OCT 1781 – a mere 240 years ago —-

    Brit forces at Yorktown, VA surrender to USA/French forces >>> 1783 USA-Brit Peace Treaty >>>

    13 independent States in USA after long 6.5 years of Am Rev. War since 19 Apr 1775 – Battles of Lexington and Concord, Mass.

    Brit monarch/oligarchs DEFEATED — laid low.

    Stage set for later destruction of other monarch/oligarchs regimes – starting with France in 1789 — onto 1918, 1945 and later.

    The WAR for REAL Democracy continues – even via electronic voting machines.
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  3. Does the touch screen enable the voter to type a write in candidate’s name directly to the ballot?

  4. @Walter, yes the touch screen allows one to type a write-in candidates name.

    These are the machines used where I live. I just did training to be a poll worker at next month’s local elections.
    After voting, it brings up a summary screen so one can view how one voted and allows the voter to go back and change their vote(s) if they so choose. It then allows (but does not require) the voter to print-out the ballot so the voter can again see what is printed on the ballot to verify their votes before inserting it back into the machine to be counted.

  5. @ Eric

    Thank you. If that is so, and write-in votes are clearly displayed and printed on the ballot, and reliably counted, then I think this is a method with positive features.

    Perhaps, instead of being handed a ballot, a voter would use the machine to access a ballot, mark it, insert any write-ins, print out the completed ballot, and THEN insert it into a vote counting machine, with a hard copy left for any necessary hand counts later.

  6. @Walter,

    You typed, “Perhaps, instead of being handed a ballot, a voter would use the machine to access a ballot, mark it, insert any write-ins, print out the completed ballot, and THEN insert it into a vote counting machine, with a hard copy left for any necessary hand counts later.”

    Not sure I fully understand what you are saying. When the voter heads to a machine they are handed a ballot to show that the hard copy ballot is blank not pre-marked. If the voter is not handed a ballot but instead can have the machine provide the ballot, how can the election’s office keep control of the number of ballots cast. If a voter can approach a machine and they are the one who then has access to create a ballot what stops them from accessing(voting) more than one ballot.

    The poll worker ensures that the voter inserts the blank ballot properly into the machine so they can then start voting. There IS a hard copy left of all ballots cast that can be used for hand counts.

  7. @Eric

    The control would be when the voter inserts the printout into the counter. I would not let the voter actually cast the vote electronincly from the machine producing the ballots.

  8. There was never voting problems of such magnitude in the USA until modern technology was used in voting. BIG MISTAKE!

  9. @Walter,
    “I would not let the voter actually cast the vote electronincly from the machine producing the ballots.” I am still confused; who should be casting the vote then – someone other than the voter? No machine produces a ballot. When a voter comes in and is verified that they are at the correct polling place and are on the voter roles and have provided the proper photo ID (required in Kansas) a blank ballot is given to them. In your above comment you stated “a voter would use the machine to access a ballot” yet now you don’t want the machine to access a ballot. Please explain what your concerns are and how you would address them. i.e. where on the line do you think fraud might occur and what should be done differently.

  10. Oregon is run by commie scum demon rat turds and being hypocritical is just part of their nature.

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