See the First Virginia Government Ballot Using Ranked Choice Voting

Posted on by June 22, 2023

On June 20, Arlington County, Virginia, used ranked choice voting for the Democratic primary ballot for County Board. Here is the ballot. Scroll down to see the County Board section. This is the first ranked choice voting ballot in the history of Virginia government ballots. Six candidates were running for the Democratic nomination; two were to be chosen.

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See the First Virginia Government Ballot Using Ranked Choice Voting — 34 Comments

  5. Cool.

    The elections website says up to 7 days, AZ.

    The heading “1 2 3” is weak.
    “1st | 2nd | 3rd” would have been better.
    Or, “1st choice | 2nd choice | 3rd choice”.

    Why no vertical lines, either?

    See Alaska’s and Maine’s ballots.

  7. ONE MORE FAKE POST BY AN AZ FELON IMPERSONATOR.

    — DEFECT IN BAN EMAIL SYSTEM.
    —-
    RCV BALLOT —
    VOTE ONCE IN EACH LINE.
    VOTE ONCE IN EACH COLUMN.

  10. No matter how many times you say it, someone using the same two letter abbreviation as you for a screen name is not a felony, not a misdemeanor, not even a citation, and not worth a minute of any law enforcement officer’s, prosecutor’s, judge’s, corrections officer’s etc time even if it were. It may or may not be worth forum management time to police such childish idiocy. I’m not sure what email system you are talking about.

    RCV is hot garbage that elects commies. The normal election system is better. You explaining how Rcv works doesn’t change that. Neither does forgetting to unlock caps, leaving them on on purpose, calling people trolls and morons, or any of your other nonsense. Give it a rest.

  11. There’s nothing in the election law blog link #8 that’s not already widely understood here or that makes reading 23 pages sound tempting. I think MAX is right about in person standing count voting. I’ve already heard your objections and his answers and don’t need them again.

  12. Detroit news is bird cage liner. Impeachment is not a separation of powers violation. Someone already explained to you at least once today why it’s an important check and balance and necessary, and why not having such an option would cause more problems than it would solve. I’ll go see if I can find the link to that and add it to this discussion as well.

  13. Pat covered the problems with AZZinine claims that impeachment is a separation of powers violation here:

    https://ballot-access.org/2023/06/21/jim-eckstrom-criticizes-democrats-for-attempts-to-keep-minor-parties-off-ballots/#comment-1161778

    If there’s a better solution to the problem of Presidents committing crimes, abusing their powers, or failing to perform their duties than impeachment, what is it, and how does it work? And don’t say the next election. That doesn’t work for second term presidents and there are obvious problems with leaving presidents like that in office. Or at least they should be obvious to anyone not as chronically logic challenged as AZ, meaning pretty much anyone.

  14. AZ IS NOT AN AI. IT MAY BE ARTIFICIAL, BUT IT’S NOT INTELLIGENT, AND IT NEVER SHOWS ANY SIGNS OF LEARNING ANYTHING. IT MIGHT BE AN ATM. NOT THE KIND THAT PAYS, EITHER. AND NOT THE PERVERTED SEXUAL PRACTICE (LOOK IT UP, OR BETTER YET DON’T). AZ MIGHT BE AN ARTIFICIAL TROLL MORON.

  16. Amending a wiki is not necessary, as there are many other sources about Russian history. You are of course welcome to try, but I’d expect your lies to get corrected before long, troll moron AZ.

    Your link doesn’t even remotely support your claim that Russia is a stone age regime. It’s true that many past rulers of Russia have been tyrants. That doesn’t prove western propaganda about the current elected leader. The US has a lot of WMD too. So what?

    Why did AZ jump non sequitur style to talking nonsense about Russia? Probably due to embarrassment at having no answer to the last question posed to him.

  18. RESULTS ARE FINAL

    JUNE 22 ABOVE LINK

    WHAT PCT OF VOTES NOMINATED THE 2 DEM PRIMARY WINNERS ???

  21. @AZ,

    You might have noticed the Virginia election was not using STV. They may have tried to develop a new method like in Aspen. Maybe Fairvote was assisting them.

  22. JR
    —

    NO PRIMARIES

    PR — TOTAL VOTES / TOTAL MEMBERS = EQUAL VOTES TO ELECT
    —
    HOW MANY TX TYRANT ELECTION LAWS ESP RE DONKEY COMMIE COUNTIES / CITIES / PRECINCTS ???

  24. Jim Riley, which of the AZ proposals do you think would make things better, which ones worse? Any you are not sure about? Reason for each?

    Same question to anyone who is not AZ. I’d ask about mine, but it doesn’t work. So, perhaps time to see if the problem might be the extreme nature of my overall package of proposals via a vis current reality and what others here think are unchangeable facts, although different proposals could be considered separately or in scaled down (in terms of change from present reality) or incremental form, by asking about someone else’s. I’d like to see if the problem is primarily with me or primarily with the audience.

    I’m also genuinely interested in what wouldn’t work better, which things require which other things to work better, and most importantly why you think so. That last part is hard to come by, and I’ve already established it’s not possible at all to any degree that would make a conversation with AZ productive, but his proposals are as good a jumping off point for discussion as mine potentially, if there are people willing and able to have a logical and fairly open discussion, without insults, name calling, assumptions about the motives of others, and with some understanding of how logical discussion actually works.

  25. JR-

    LEGIS ONLY — PRE-ELECTION PUBLIC CANDIDATE RANK LISTS OF ALL OTHER CANDIDATES IN ALL DISTRICTS

    RATIO – TV/TM

    HIGHEST SURPLUS – MOVES VOTES OVER RATIO DOWN TO UN-ELECTED CANDIDATES. REPEAT

    LOWEST LOSER – MOVE VOTES UP TO UN-ELECTED CANDIDATES. REPEAT.

    MOVE VOTES LIMIT – SO RECEIVER DOES NOT EXCEED RATIO.

    FINAL – EQUAL VOTES FOR ALL WINNERS — LIKELY COALITIONS IN LEGIS BODIES.

    VARIANT OF RCV — PENDING CONDORCET – PERHAPS WITH UNEQUAL VOTES [VOTING POWER] FOR FINAL WINNERS
    ——
    APPV FOR NONPARTISAN EXECS/JUDICS – PENDING CONDORCET WITH APPV TIEBREAKER.

  26. Sec. AZ. (1) Each Elector may vote for 1 candidate for each legislative body.
    (2) The Ratio shall be the Total Votes for all candidates in all districts divided by the Total Members, dropping any fraction.
    Ratio = TV/TM
    (3) A candidate who gets the Ratio shall be elected.
    (4) The largest surplus more than the Ratio shall be moved to 1 or more candidates in any district who do not have the Ratio and who are highest on the candidate’s rank order list.
    (5) Only the votes needed to get the Ratio shall be moved to any 1 candidate.
    (6) Repeat steps (4) and (5) until all surplus votes are moved.
    (7) If all members are not elected, then the candidate with the least votes shall lose.
    (8) Such losing votes shall be moved to 1 or more remaining unelected candidates in any district who are highest on the candidate’s rank order list and subject to (5).
    (9) The moving order shall be original votes and then the earliest surplus or other loser votes.
    (10) Repeat steps (7-9) until all members are elected.
    (11) Example 100 Votes, Elect 5
    Ratio = 100/5 = 20
    Surplus Moved
    C1 25-20 = 5 Surplus
    C2 19+1 = 20
    C3 14+4 = 18
    Final
    C1 20 = 20 Elected
    C2 20 = 20 Elected
    C3 18+2 = 20 Elected
    C4 17+3 = 20 Elected
    C5 15+5 = 20 Elected
    Sum 90+10 = 100
    Losers 10 are moved to elected persons.
    (12) Each member shall have 1 vote in the legislative body and a YES majority of all members shall be required to enact legislation.
    (13) Each legislative body may meet any time in person, by written proxy or electronically and shall appoint its officers provided by law.

  28. @AZ,

    Won’t candidate lists lead to the sort of manipulation has happened in the Australian Senate?

  29. JR ASKED–

    1. Why do legislators have to have equal votes?

    THEY DO NOT — BUT UNEQUAL VOTING POWERS WOULD CONTINUE MONARCH/OLIGARCH TYPES IN LEGIS BODIES.

    2. Won’t candidate lists lead to the sort of manipulation has happened in the Australian Senate?

    I WOULD ESTIMATE 75 PCT OF WINNERS WOULD HAVE A SURPLUS – ESP AFTER 1-2 ELECTIONS.

    ONLY MARGINAL SEATS IN COALITIONS WOULD BE AFFECTED –

    AGAIN- LISTS WOULD BE PRE-ELECTION AND PUBLIC
    ——
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/June_2023_Greek_legislative_election

    COUNT THE PARTIES WITH SEATS

    FATAL RIGGED BONUS SEATS IN A FATAL PARL SYSTEM

    P-A-T

  33. @AZ,

    How would voters access these lists?

    How would they process the information?

    Could AZ demonstrate with a ranking of the candidates for the House in 2022.

    I don’t understand why you believe that non-unit votes would result in monarchies or oligarchs.

    Where does your estimate of 75% surpluses derive from?

    Is the number of Greek parties represented in Parliament, too many, too few, or just right. What is the Goldilocks zone?

  34. Trying to make heads or tails of the AZ mish mosh is a fool’s errand, but good luck.

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