On July 6, the California Senate Elections Committee passed AB 1227. It lets Santa Clara County use ranked choice voting for elections for its own officers. Santa Clara County is the most populous county in northern California.
On July 6, the California Senate Elections Committee passed AB 1227. It lets Santa Clara County use ranked choice voting for elections for its own officers. Santa Clara County is the most populous county in northern California.
CONDORCET = RCV DONE RIGHT
@AZ,
Should Santa Clara County adopt Condorcet in single member districts, or some other method in multi-member districts?
JR- PENDING CONDORCET —
WINNERS VOTING POWER = 1
Sec. 3. (1) The Electors shall elect for [2] year terms at partisan elections:
(A) [101] state senators in the state legislature in [odd] years and (B) an odd number of members (at least 5) in each local legislative body in [even] years.
(2) As nearly as possible, each legislative election district shall have 2 (rural) to 5 (urban) times the number of Electors in the legislative body area at the last regular election [for governor] divided by the total members in the body, be 1 or more local governments or a part of 1 local government and be contiguous and square.
(3) Each legislative body candidate shall receive a list of all other candidates in all districts grouped by party names by [63] days before the election day.
(4) Each candidate shall rank such all other candidates (using 1 (highest), 2, etc.) and file such list by [5 P.M. 56] days before the election day.
(5) The lists shall be made public the next day.
(6) If a valid list is not filed, then the candidate’s name shall not be on the ballots.
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Sec. 6. (1) Each Elector may vote for 1 candidate for each legislative body.
(2) The Ratio shall be the Total Votes for all candidates in all districts divided by the Total Members, dropping any fraction.
Ratio = TV/TM
(3) A candidate who gets the Ratio shall be elected.
(4) The largest surplus more than the Ratio shall be moved to 1 or more candidates in any district who do not have the Ratio and who are highest on the candidate’s rank order list.
(5) Only the votes needed to get the Ratio shall be moved to any 1 candidate.
(6) Repeat steps (4) and (5) until all surplus votes are moved.
(7) If all members are not elected, then the candidate with the least votes shall lose.
(8) Such losing votes shall be moved to 1 or more remaining unelected candidates in any district who are highest on the candidate’s rank order list and subject to (5).
(9) The moving order shall be original votes and then the earliest surplus or other loser votes.
(10) Repeat steps (7-9) until all members are elected.
(11) Example 100 Votes, Elect 5
Ratio = 100/5 = 20
Surplus Moved
C1 25-20 = 5 Surplus
C2 19+1 = 20
C3 14+4 = 18
Final
C1 20 = 20 Elected
C2 20 = 20 Elected
C3 18+2 = 20 Elected
C4 17+3 = 20 Elected
C5 15+5 = 20 Elected
Sum 90+10 = 100
Losers 10 are moved to elected persons.
(12) Each member shall have 1 vote in the legislative body and a YES majority of all members shall be required to enact legislation.
(13) Each legislative body may meet any time in person, by written proxy or electronically and shall appoint its officers provided by law.
Sec. 7. (1) All legislative body candidates and members shall file 1 or more rank order lists of persons to fill any temporary or permanent vacancy of the candidate or member during an election time or term respectively.
(2) The qualified person who is highest on the list shall fill the vacancy.
(3) If (1-2) does not happen, then the other candidates of his/her party (if any), the other members of his/her party (if any) or the legislative body shall fill such vacancy with a qualified person of the same party immediately at its next meeting, as the case may be.
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CONDORCET EXACT- NO MOVE SURPLUS VOTES — NO RATIOS
WINNER VOTING POWERS EQUAL TO FINAL VOTES RECEIVED
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MINI EXACT – 5 CANDIDATES- ELECT 3 – 101 VOTES
ALL COMBOS OF 3 TEST WINNERS- 1 TEST LOSER – 1 LOSER
FINAL – WINNERS – VOTING POWERS
R 38
A 35
Z 28
101
LOSERS = T TROLL AND M MORON
Ain’t gonna happen.
HOW MANY BIZ CORPS HAVE ANY SORT OF EQUAL VOTES OR EXACT VOTES ELECTION SYSTEM FOR ITS BOARD OF DIRECTORS ???
I think it’s usually based on number of shares held, not number of voters. Also I believe proxy voting is common in corporate elections.
@AZ,
Santa Clara County has a 5-member Board of Supervisors. It has an a appointed manager, and elected DA, Sheriff.
Perhaps you missed that my question was specific to that county.
Why that county and none of the others? Seems odd.
SC CO –
5 MEMBER LEGIS BODY
NONPARTISAN ELECT MANAGER / DA/ SHERIFF – USING APPV — PENDING CONDORCET
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ALSO APPV TIEBREAKER WITH CONDORCET
NUMBER VOTES AND YES/NO FOR ALL CANDIDATES
STRUCTURE STUFF IN CA CONST FOR COUNTIES OR IN A MERE ELECTION LAW ???
CA HAS A VRA ELECTION LAW – NOW IN A CA SCT CASE
https://electionlawblog.org/?p=137512
RCV KILLED OFF IN ARLINGTON CO VA
— NOOO SURPRISE BY THE EVIL FORCES OF MONARCHS/OLIGARCHS.
“SEC. 3. The Legislature finds and declares that a special statute is necessary and that a general statute cannot be made applicable within the meaning of Section 16 of Article IV of the California Constitution because of the unique circumstances relating to the County of Santa Clara’s interest in having the option to use ranked choice voting in its elections.”
I’m confused about “interest in having the option”. This seems to mean that if you aren’t interested, you can’t have the option, otherwise this statute would apply to all counties. If a county isn’t interested in first-past-the-post, do they lose that option? What I think it really means is that the State can decide whether they believe you show interest and whether to grant you the option. Very different from the Federal model where powers are delegated to the states.
S.C. CO. HAD SOME SORT OF COUNTY RES/ORD ABOUT RCV ???
AZ really needs to type in English.
@AC,
Santa Clara County has a county charter that states that nothing in the charter precludes adoption of IRV when the technology is a available to the county.
California has a dopey schedule for electing county officials. Elections are non-partisan, with election by majority in the primary. California used to have an August Primary, with a presidential primary in May. After WWII they consolidated the two primaries in June as a cost saving measure. This primary has been moved to March.
So the county election is in March with all attention being focused on the presidential, congressional, gubernatorial races. Non-partisan and low motivation voters may skip the primary and miss out on electing the county government. If a candidate receives a majority they are elected.
Only for races with a plurality in March, are on the ballot in November. So IRV is promoted as a cost saving measure. AB 1227 would permit the county to consolidate elections in March or November.
It is not clear that the county could not implement RCV unilaterally under its charter. There may be some legal ambiguity. The purpose of counties is to provide state government within a county. For example, a DA prosecutes crimes that occur within a county on behalf of the People of the State of California. Property records may be recorded at the county level. There is not the same amount of variation as there is among cities.
It appears that the legislature is unwilling to extend the use of RCV statewide to either charter counties or general law counties. One of the findings (Section 1(e)) is that California would benefit from an experiment in Santa Clara County.
TOTAL FRAUD ABOUT *NONPARTISAN* ELECTIONS FOR LEGIS BODIES.
HOW MANY RCV *EXPERIMENTS* SO FAR SINCE 1776 ???
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P-A-T
Home rule should enable any municipality to choose its own voting methods for its own officers, without asking permission of the legislature.
STATE GENERAL LAWS FOR ALL LOCAL REGIMES
>>> NOOO LOCAL INDEPENDENT EMPIRES — CAUSE OF MORE LOCAL TYRANTS
SEE OLDE CA SMALL BURG WITH TYRANTS
Precisely wrong. Higher levels of government, further removed from the governed, are prone to more and worse tyranny .
That is, Walter Ziobro is correct and AZ is predictably wrong, immediately above.
Sam,
Any language recognized by Google Translate and competing services would be preferable to AZZspeak.
Does AZ stand for AZhkenAZi?
AZ – 2 BOTTOM LEFT KEYS NEXT TO CAPS LOCK AND SHIFT KEYS ON QWERTY STANDARD KEYBOARD
TOO FEW/MANY 0.000001 IQ TROLL MORONS TO COUNT
— WITH THEIR MORON CONSPIRACIES ABOUT EVERYTHING.
At least the artificial ztupidity admits its leftism.
The AZ is a clueless PRESCHOOL troll moron artificial ztupidity.
AZ is perpetually contradictory of itself. One minute states are horrible gerrymanders, the next they are sovereign nation states. One minute the sky is falling and the next nothing has changed in 6,000+ years. One minute everything is rotting and we’re in or about to be in a horrible new age. The next everything is progressing and the bad old days were dark ages.
It is all total gibberish. Probably just some artificial ztupidity programmed by clueless preschool morons in order to troll everyone here and waste people’s time.
https://dcist.com/story/23/07/14/house-gop-passes-bill-targeting-dc-laws/
HR R’S ELECTION STUFF IN DC REGIME — BILLS
PAT, NI, BY, Max, Sam all are correct.