The State of Michigan indicted all 16 electors of then-President Donald Trump in 2020 for signing forms indicating that Trump won Michigan’s electoral votes in the 2020 presidential election.
Here is the link to the story.
Thanks to Thomas Jones for the “heads up.”
MSNBC? Really? This page is going even more left than ever.
It is also more evidence of AZ on the Biden payroll.
SEE ALSO
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/michigan/2023/07/18/michigan-donald-trump-fake-electors-charged-felonies-attorney-general-dana-nessel/70427042007/
16 false Trump electors face felony charges in Michigan
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PRE-SKOOOL PARTY HACK MORONS AT WORK — NEXT MAKING MI LICENSE PLATES IN MICH JACKSON STATE SLAMMER.
https://www.michigan.gov/ag/news/press-releases/2023/07/18/michigan-attorney-general-dana-nessel-charges-16-false-electors
8 COUNTS EACH –
DECADES POSSIBLE IN SLAMMER
PAPERWORK FELONS — HOW MANY AT CAPITOL BLDG IN DC ON 6 JAN 2021 ???
The fake news is strong with this one.
Fierce!
Wretched Witless must be in hog heaven now.
https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/2023/07/18/trump-fake-electors-in-michigan-face-criminal-charges/70424150007/
Trump’s fake electors charged by Michigan AG in alleged 2020 election scheme
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BIT MORE INFO ON EACH SUSPECT- ESP ANY *LAWYERS*.
How is this related to ballot access?
Ron, it isn’t related to ballot access, but this site has long carried news about the electoral college and this story relates to one of the many flaws with the electoral college.
There’s been… I don’t know about prosecutions, but definitely laws about faithless electors.
But is MSNBC correct in saying that “This is the first time fake electors in any state have been criminally charged”?
not about this story; i’m not sure where to put new comments.
https://www.law.com/njlawjournal/2023/07/17/anti-fusion-voting-laws-and-the-problem-of-a-two-party-system/
good article about a case to allow fusion under the new jersey constitution. quotes winger.
An open thread would be a good idea, I think .
Also, I don’t see any problems with the electoral college in the fake news story.
It appears to be about problems with corrupt AG Nessel and her kangaroo office persecution of people who worked for actual election integrity. If there were real justice she and her cronies and underlings would be the ones up on charges.
At this point the electoral college is one of the few things halting the slide to full blown European style socialism and quite possibly a nuclear WWIII. Trump being elected in 2016 saved America, and maybe saved the world. Hillary Clinton would probably have been an even bigger disaster than Biden, and him stealing the election has been a huge disaster on its own right. Trump winning in 2024 will save us all again if Biden doesn’t blow us up first by going to war with Russia over Ukraine.
Electoral college is good within your present system. Ideally though, the President (and federal government) would only be concerned with military defense. Therefore, the commander in chief would be picked by fellow generals and admirals. The only other government would be local defense against mala in se crimes and last resort for intractable disputes. No president or equivalent at that level, maybe about 10 peacekeepers elected every year out of about 100 electors, give or take.
For anyone inclined to taking AZ fake news seriously, he also believes that the biggest difference between Hitler and Trump is that the former went to jail (never mind little things like an 8 digit body count among many others), the US is currently a monarchy, and he makes no errors except typographical.
MICH FELON ROT =
ONE MORE REASON TO ABOLISH THE ANTI-DEMOCRACY MINORITY RULE EC
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USA/STATES ELECTOR = USA CITIZEN, 18 YRS OLDE ON ELECTION DAYS
BE REGISTERED BY 28 DAYS BEFOR ELECTION DAYS — POSITIVE DEFINITION.
NOOO ROTTED STATE STUFF ABOUT MENTAL/ CRIMINAL/ ETC MACHINATIONS
REPEAL ALL THE ***NEGATIVE*** STUFF IN 14-26 ETC AMDTS —
REGARDLESS OF TROLL MORON CONSPIRACIES AND THEIR LOVING OF MONARCH/OLIGARCH SYSTEMS
All of those bad ideas would only make things go from bad to worse . Except for repealing amendments. I agree about that, within an interim system where your constitution still applies.
followup to my earlier post, this link https://protectdemocracy.org/work/bringing-back-fusion-voting/#case-documents had the documents for the new jersey fusion case.
13th – 17 th amendments should be repealed. 18th was already repealed by 21st, so perhaps 21st should be repealed, although not necessarily. 19th amendment should be repealed. No strong opinion on 20th. I think the 22nd may well be repealed before the end of Trump’s second term. 23rd, 24th, and 26th should be repealed. No strong opinion on 25th and 27th.
Good list.
https://the-pipeline.org/the-column-to-save-america-repeal-the-19th-amendment/
And:
https://faithandheritage.com/2018/08/repeal-the-19th/
WHERE IS THE CONST AMDT TO MAKE MAX ZIM THE LIFELONG KING OF RUSSIA OR MERELY KING OF THE USA ???
WITH TYRANT ABSOLUTE TOTAL LEGISLATIVE. EXECUTIVE AND JUDICIAL POWERS
— TO MAKE PRIOR KILLER TYRANTS SEEM TRIVIAL — LENIN, MUSSOLINI, HIROHITO, STALIN, HITLER, MAO, SADDAM, PUTIN, XI, ETC.
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67334397/libertarian-national-committee-inc-v-saliba/
LNC V LPM TRADEMARK CASE —
Jun 22, 2023
NOTICE OF IN PERSON HEARING on 12 MOTION for Preliminary Injunction . Motion Hearing set for 8/23/2023 01:00 PM before District Judge Judith E. Levy (WBar) (Entered: 06/22/2023)
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ONE MORE CASE FOR SCOTUS IN ABOUT 10 MONTHS – OR SOONER DUE TO 2024 LP PREZ/VP CANDIDATES AND MICH E LAW 12 AMDT ELECTORS ???
There he goes again. I have no interest in being or having a king or tyrant of anything.
Pretty unlikely your supreme court would waste its time on internal disputes of a state minor party.
No comments on Hawaii’s multiple states of electors from 1960, or how that election was overturned? Not surprising commies Richard Winger Bill Redpath and AZ would ignore that.
The Hawaii incident of 1960 is interesting. AZ will just comment about Gerrymandering or purge lists or some other retarded crap.
No one was charged in Hawaii. Sounds like Michigan hates dissent.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1960_United_States_presidential_election_in_Hawaii
HI MACHINATIONS
20 AMDT, SEC 3.
IF NOV ELECTION RESULTS ARE ILLEGAL, THEN WOULD A COURT ORDER A NEW PREZ ELECTION ???
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ANOTHER REASON TO ABOLISH THE EC ROT
ALL 50 STATES MANAGE TO SURVIVE BY HAVING THE VOTERS ELECT VARIOUS STATEWIDE OFFICERS –
EXECS — GUVS, AGS, SOSS, ETC. AND STATE SUPREME COURT JUDGES IN MANY STATES.
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P-A-T
Hank prediction on the money.
https://electionlawblog.org/?p=137583
TRUMP AND THE FAKE 12 AMDT ELECTORS SCHEME
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HOW MANY ELECTION AND OTHER FELONIES [ESP FELONY POSSESSION OF TOP SECRETS INFO AFTER TERM OF OFFICE ENDED, ETC] BY THE EX CIC — AND HIS GANG OF STOOGE FELONS ???
Wrong. The crimes and stooge felons were the ones who succeeded in stealing the election from TRUMP by massive vote count rigging and ineligible votes.
Now AZ had resorted to linking Wikipedia, which anyone can edit. He’s so predictable.
AZ is using the FAKE NEWS New York Times as well. Next he’s going to bring up Putin or Hitler
MTG on fire!
https://www.thefirsttv.com/mtg-reacts-this-is-absolute-bullsht/?utm_source=thefirsttv&utm_campaign=internal&utm_medium=recommended
Ramaswamy’s comments on our corrupt justice system.
https://www.thefirsttv.com/vivek-corrupt-agencies-are-trying-to-remove-trump-from-the-ballot-in-2024/
Vivek was connected to Soros. Be very careful.
Try that in a small town
https://youtu.be/b1_RKu-ESCY
Democrats wanted it done in 2016. Where are the charges?
https://www.infowars.com/posts/michigan-charges-16-elderly-fake-electors-with-felonies/
The commie AG and her minions are the most detestable kind of scum imaginable.
Michigan is a communist state.
AP WROTE –
Michigan is a communist state.
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DUE TO HAVING A RIGGED GERRYMANDER COMM [ FOR USA REP, MI SENATE AND MI STATE REP DISTS ] AND PARTY HACK GUVS, AGS AND SOSS. [LATTER 2 VIA PARTY HACK FALL STATE CONVENTIONS]
P-A-T
On cue, Hank is right again.
Why does AZ keep talking about Pat? I never met him.
MEANWHILE–
https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/19/politics/oversight-committee-hearing-irs-whistleblowers/index.html
BIDENS TAX STUFF — FAKE NEWS ???
TOO MANY DEVIL CRITTERS IN DEVIL CITY ???
CNN spin is the fake news part. They mischaracterize real events. Then make things up. Not reliable.
@Max,
Why a need for a standing army? Wouldn’t a militia be more consistent with a locality based system?
That’s actually a good point. It’s entirely possible that would be adequate defense. In formulation of proposals, I thought nations would need modern military forces to protect against other modern military forces. That may not be the case.
Afghani ragtag fighting units held up quite well against our modern military, as well as yours. In your revolutionary war, you were vastly overmatched by the British army, yet beat them. There are many other such examples. There are micronations throughout the world today, some of them having existed for centuries, which survive without foreign invasion or occupation, even though they would clearly be no match for larger national military forces.
My proposals already include a militia system. Perhaps that’s all that’s needed, with the larger unit of government I’ve proposed being entirely unnecessary, and defense against both criminals and foreign invasion handled adequately by government units in the range of approximately 100k total population.
I was already exploring thoughts in that direction. Thank you for reminding me of that.
WORLD WAR III WILL OBVIOUSLY HAVE WMD BEING USED =
NO HUMANS ALIVE IN 30 MINUTES IN MOST OF WORLD — CIRCA 95 PCT PLUS –
REST TO DIE FROM WMD EFFECTS, DISEASE, STARVATION.
SOME FOLKS IN OUTER SPACE SEEING THE FINAL ROT ???
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P-A-T- BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE
https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/19/politics/trump-indictments-analysis/index.html
HOW MANY COUNTS IN THE NEXT T INDICTMENT ???
FRIDAY 21 JUL 2023 ???
WILL TRUMP MORONS BREAK HIM OUT OF A USA JAIL ???
More FAKE NEWS from Biden employee AZ.
Roger Stone thinks AZ’s buddy Biden will get replaced by Moochelle Obama.
Richard Winger banned the video from being shown.
You mean Michael Obama. It’s really a man. Barack Hussein is gay. He admitted to loving the book Gender Queer.
https://grrrgraphics.com/one-set-of-laws-for-everyone/
Great cartoon
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/elections/2023/07/20/secretary-of-state-bars-clerk-trump-elector-from-running-elections-stan-grot/70438639007/
Shelby Township clerk, a Trump elector, barred from running elections
Craig Mauger
The Detroit News
Lansing — Michigan’s Secretary of State’s office ordered Shelby Township Clerk Stan Grot on Thursday to cease involvement in administering elections after he was one of 16 Republicans charged with eight felonies for signing a false certificate claiming Donald Trump had won the state in 2020.
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ONE MORE ELECTION FELON- NOT RUNNING ELECTIONS ANY MORE ???
Good points by Rick, Anakin, Pat, Dan, Max, Don, Hank, Pat Harington fan, Fred, Royce, Joe, Chase, Another Pat, Mike, Pat Cooper fan, Brett, John, Bill, Louis, and Tom!
Alex Jones has a great take.
https://www.infowars.com/posts/leftist-coup-soros-backed-ag-weaponizes-elections-against-political-opposition/
Yep!
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2023/07/20/domestic-violence-in-black-communities-highlights-need-for-resources/70388892007/
FAMILY DEATH AND DESTRUCTION —-
ON TOP OF GOVT WARS / DOMESTIC TERRORISM
AND PRIVATE NON-FAMILY CRIMINALS
https://www.mlive.com/politics/2023/07/michigan-gop-after-a-pause-excoriates-nessel-over-trump-elector-charges.html
SOME MI GOP RESPONSE
NOOOO MENTION OF BASIC REFORMS-
NONPARTISAN EXECS/JUDICS
ABOLISH EC