Michigan Indicts Trump’s 16 Electors from 2020

The State of Michigan indicted all 16 electors of then-President Donald Trump in 2020 for signing forms indicating that Trump won Michigan’s electoral votes in the 2020 presidential election.

Here is the link to the story.

Thanks to Thomas Jones for the “heads up.”


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Michigan Indicts Trump’s 16 Electors from 2020 — 60 Comments

  1. MSNBC? Really? This page is going even more left than ever.

    It is also more evidence of AZ on the Biden payroll.

  2. Ron, it isn’t related to ballot access, but this site has long carried news about the electoral college and this story relates to one of the many flaws with the electoral college.

  3. There’s been… I don’t know about prosecutions, but definitely laws about faithless electors.

    But is MSNBC correct in saying that “This is the first time fake electors in any state have been criminally charged”?

  4. An open thread would be a good idea, I think .

    Also, I don’t see any problems with the electoral college in the fake news story.
    It appears to be about problems with corrupt AG Nessel and her kangaroo office persecution of people who worked for actual election integrity. If there were real justice she and her cronies and underlings would be the ones up on charges.

    At this point the electoral college is one of the few things halting the slide to full blown European style socialism and quite possibly a nuclear WWIII. Trump being elected in 2016 saved America, and maybe saved the world. Hillary Clinton would probably have been an even bigger disaster than Biden, and him stealing the election has been a huge disaster on its own right. Trump winning in 2024 will save us all again if Biden doesn’t blow us up first by going to war with Russia over Ukraine.

  5. Electoral college is good within your present system. Ideally though, the President (and federal government) would only be concerned with military defense. Therefore, the commander in chief would be picked by fellow generals and admirals. The only other government would be local defense against mala in se crimes and last resort for intractable disputes. No president or equivalent at that level, maybe about 10 peacekeepers elected every year out of about 100 electors, give or take.

  6. For anyone inclined to taking AZ fake news seriously, he also believes that the biggest difference between Hitler and Trump is that the former went to jail (never mind little things like an 8 digit body count among many others), the US is currently a monarchy, and he makes no errors except typographical.

  7. MICH FELON ROT =

    ONE MORE REASON TO ABOLISH THE ANTI-DEMOCRACY MINORITY RULE EC


    USA/STATES ELECTOR = USA CITIZEN, 18 YRS OLDE ON ELECTION DAYS

    BE REGISTERED BY 28 DAYS BEFOR ELECTION DAYS — POSITIVE DEFINITION.

    NOOO ROTTED STATE STUFF ABOUT MENTAL/ CRIMINAL/ ETC MACHINATIONS

    REPEAL ALL THE ***NEGATIVE*** STUFF IN 14-26 ETC AMDTS —

    REGARDLESS OF TROLL MORON CONSPIRACIES AND THEIR LOVING OF MONARCH/OLIGARCH SYSTEMS

  8. All of those bad ideas would only make things go from bad to worse . Except for repealing amendments. I agree about that, within an interim system where your constitution still applies.

  9. 13th – 17 th amendments should be repealed. 18th was already repealed by 21st, so perhaps 21st should be repealed, although not necessarily. 19th amendment should be repealed. No strong opinion on 20th. I think the 22nd may well be repealed before the end of Trump’s second term. 23rd, 24th, and 26th should be repealed. No strong opinion on 25th and 27th.

  10. WHERE IS THE CONST AMDT TO MAKE MAX ZIM THE LIFELONG KING OF RUSSIA OR MERELY KING OF THE USA ???

    WITH TYRANT ABSOLUTE TOTAL LEGISLATIVE. EXECUTIVE AND JUDICIAL POWERS

    — TO MAKE PRIOR KILLER TYRANTS SEEM TRIVIAL — LENIN, MUSSOLINI, HIROHITO, STALIN, HITLER, MAO, SADDAM, PUTIN, XI, ETC.

  11. There he goes again. I have no interest in being or having a king or tyrant of anything.

  12. Pretty unlikely your supreme court would waste its time on internal disputes of a state minor party.

  13. No comments on Hawaii’s multiple states of electors from 1960, or how that election was overturned? Not surprising commies Richard Winger Bill Redpath and AZ would ignore that.

  14. The Hawaii incident of 1960 is interesting. AZ will just comment about Gerrymandering or purge lists or some other retarded crap.

  15. ALL 50 STATES MANAGE TO SURVIVE BY HAVING THE VOTERS ELECT VARIOUS STATEWIDE OFFICERS –

    EXECS — GUVS, AGS, SOSS, ETC. AND STATE SUPREME COURT JUDGES IN MANY STATES.

    P-A-T

  16. Wrong. The crimes and stooge felons were the ones who succeeded in stealing the election from TRUMP by massive vote count rigging and ineligible votes.

  17. Now AZ had resorted to linking Wikipedia, which anyone can edit. He’s so predictable.

  18. AZ is using the FAKE NEWS New York Times as well. Next he’s going to bring up Putin or Hitler

  19. AP WROTE –

    Michigan is a communist state.

    DUE TO HAVING A RIGGED GERRYMANDER COMM [ FOR USA REP, MI SENATE AND MI STATE REP DISTS ] AND PARTY HACK GUVS, AGS AND SOSS. [LATTER 2 VIA PARTY HACK FALL STATE CONVENTIONS]

    P-A-T

  20. CNN spin is the fake news part. They mischaracterize real events. Then make things up. Not reliable.

  21. @Max,

    Why a need for a standing army? Wouldn’t a militia be more consistent with a locality based system?

  22. That’s actually a good point. It’s entirely possible that would be adequate defense. In formulation of proposals, I thought nations would need modern military forces to protect against other modern military forces. That may not be the case.

    Afghani ragtag fighting units held up quite well against our modern military, as well as yours. In your revolutionary war, you were vastly overmatched by the British army, yet beat them. There are many other such examples. There are micronations throughout the world today, some of them having existed for centuries, which survive without foreign invasion or occupation, even though they would clearly be no match for larger national military forces.

    My proposals already include a militia system. Perhaps that’s all that’s needed, with the larger unit of government I’ve proposed being entirely unnecessary, and defense against both criminals and foreign invasion handled adequately by government units in the range of approximately 100k total population.

    I was already exploring thoughts in that direction. Thank you for reminding me of that.

  23. WORLD WAR III WILL OBVIOUSLY HAVE WMD BEING USED =

    NO HUMANS ALIVE IN 30 MINUTES IN MOST OF WORLD — CIRCA 95 PCT PLUS –

    REST TO DIE FROM WMD EFFECTS, DISEASE, STARVATION.

    SOME FOLKS IN OUTER SPACE SEEING THE FINAL ROT ???

    P-A-T- BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE

  24. Roger Stone thinks AZ’s buddy Biden will get replaced by Moochelle Obama.

    Richard Winger banned the video from being shown.

  25. You mean Michael Obama. It’s really a man. Barack Hussein is gay. He admitted to loving the book Gender Queer.

  26. https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/elections/2023/07/20/secretary-of-state-bars-clerk-trump-elector-from-running-elections-stan-grot/70438639007/

    Shelby Township clerk, a Trump elector, barred from running elections

    Craig Mauger
    The Detroit News

    Lansing — Michigan’s Secretary of State’s office ordered Shelby Township Clerk Stan Grot on Thursday to cease involvement in administering elections after he was one of 16 Republicans charged with eight felonies for signing a false certificate claiming Donald Trump had won the state in 2020.

    ONE MORE ELECTION FELON- NOT RUNNING ELECTIONS ANY MORE ???

  27. Good points by Rick, Anakin, Pat, Dan, Max, Don, Hank, Pat Harington fan, Fred, Royce, Joe, Chase, Another Pat, Mike, Pat Cooper fan, Brett, John, Bill, Louis, and Tom!

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