U.S. District Judge Rules that Trial is Needed to Settle U.S. House and Legislative Districting in Georgia

On July 17, U.S. District Court Judge Steve C. Jones, an Obama appointee, issued a 109-page order in Pendergrass v Raffensperger, n.d., 1:21cv-05339. This is a case filed in 2021, challenging the boundaries of Georgia’s U.S. House district boundaries. Judge Jones ruled that the case cannot be settled without a trial. The date of the trial has not yet been set, but it will probably be three or four months in the future, perhaps more.

When the trial is over, the judge will rule on whether the existing districts are unconstitutional. If he rules against the state, then the legislature would need to draw up new districts, and that would probably be in early 2024.

Two other related cases argue that the legislative districts are also in violation of the Voting Rights Act.

This is good news for 2024 minor party and independent candidates for U.S. House and legislative districts in Georgia. Courts in the past have ruled that when Georgia redistricting has been delayed, the state must shrink the number of signatures required, proportionate to the amount of time lost. The Georgia petitioning period runs from January to July of even years.

The trial will be complicated because the law on districting relative to race is complicated. If one reads the order, one can understand how complicated these cases are. Most of the order relates to why the state’s brief for summary judgment should be denied. The part of the order explaining why the plaintiffs’ motion for summary judgment is also denied starts on page 74.

In 2020, Georgia elected eight Republicans and six Democrats to the U.S. House. But after the legislature redrew the districts in 2021, the state elected nine Republicans and five Democrats in 2022.


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U.S. District Judge Rules that Trial is Needed to Settle U.S. House and Legislative Districting in Georgia — 30 Comments

  1. Voters should be able to self-district with ranked choice of districts if a district reaches a proportional limit.

  2. Ballot access laws are way too complicated. Government and laws should be much more simple. Elected government units should be small enough to not need any districts, and should only deal with defending citizens from mala in se crimes and resolving the most intractable local disputes.

    There should be national governments for military defense purposes only, but it makes no sense for civilians to pick a commander in chief.

  3. WHO PICKED G. WASHINGTON, U.S. GRANT, J.J. PERSHING AND D.D. EISENHOWER ???

    AS USA GENS AND 3 OF 4 LATER AS USA PREZS.

    HOW MANY OLDE ROMAN EMPERORS PICKED BY TOP MILITARY AND LATER KILLED BY TOP MILITARY ???

    G MATH 00001

    1/2 OR LESS VOTES X 1/2 RIGGED CRACKED/PACKED G DISTS = 1/4 OR LESS CONTROL

    — SINCE 1776 OR EVEN LATE 1200S IN OLDE ENGLAND

    PR
    APPV
    TOTSOP

  4. As generals? Would have to be since Pershing was never president. They rose up through the ranks of the military like everyone else who served. Is this esoteric knowledge? It must be on planet AZ.

  5. THE PUBLIC MASS OF VOTERS ELECTED GRANT AND EISENHOWER — NOT AN ELITE OLIGARCH GANG OF TOP MILITARY FOLKS.

  6. PERVERSION OF 14-15 AMDTS RE ANY RACE RIGGING OF GERRYMANDER DISTRICTS.

    1/2 X 1/2 = 1/4 ===== SUBVERSION OF 1-2 AND 14-1 EP CL FOR USA REPS

  7. Elected as presidents, yes. They were promoted through the ranks as generals. Pershing was never a president, so including him indicated you meant as generals. If, as presidents, their only role was commander in chief, as it should be, it would be silly for civilians to elect them.

  8. 14th and 15th should definitely be on the chopping block for repeal.

  9. WASHINGTON WAS MADE A GEN IN 1775 BY ACT THE 2ND CONT CONGRESS

    LATER TOP GENS WERE MADE TOP GENS BY PREZS WITH ADVICE AND CONSENT OF THE USA SENATE.

  10. The legislative bodies merely acknowledged military facts. It wasn’t necessary. Merely ceremonial. Military can handle promotions all by itself.

  11. The Constitution Party has made me very appreciative of the 14th amendment, specifically in regards of Due Process when they successfully fought against an NC sore loser law that prevented three people who lost in Democratic and Republican primaries in 2018 to run as members of their party in 2018. That law had not yet been implemented at the time they swap political parties.

    From that and other cases such as Christopher Anglin’s case in 2018 and the Green Party’s case in 2022 has shown me that our governments (federal and state) led by the major parties have no regards in supporting free, fair, and competitive elections where ideas can be clashed so that voters can have an informed decision about what they think is best for them. I want everyone to be treated equally under the law regardless of political affiliation, but I do not trust the governor, the state board of elections, or the state legislature in protecting the freedoms that were fought for.

  12. So then do you think the first amendment is also an abomination? The Party did also sue under violations of the first amendment on that very same case. I also became very appreciative of free assembly and free speech though learning about this and other cases.

  13. IN 1865-1866 MOST OF THE EX-REBEL REGIMES ENACTED ***BLACK CODES*** KEEPING EX-SLAVE BLACKS WITH NO POLITICAL RIGHTS (VOTING / HOLDING PUBLIC OFFICES) AND NO / MINIMAL *CIVIL* RIGHTS. — TO MAKE CONTRACTS / OWN REAL ESTATE / ETC.

    39TH CONGRESS GOP FOLKS NOT AMUSED – ESP AFTER ABOUT 400,000 UNION ARMY/NAVY DEAD IN 1861-1866.

    JOINT HR/SEN COMT ON RECONSTRUCTION FORMED DEC 1865 – JUST AFTER 13TH AMDT DECLARED RATIFIED.

    SOME RESULTS – APR 1866 CIVIL RIGHTS ACT – BLACK CONTRACT POWER = WHITE CONTRACT POWER

    — PASSED OVER PREZ AJ VETO — START OF CONGRESSIONAL RECONSTRUCTION TO 1877.

    MAJOR DOUBTS ABOUT CONSTITUTIONALITY OF 1866 CRA

    T-W-O MAIN 14TH AMDT SPEECHES – 1 IN HR , 1 IN SENATE BY JCOR MEMBERS

    REALLY POOR JCOR REPORT ON 14TH AMDT – LAST PARA GENERALITIES.

    JCOR REPORT – MAINLY A REHASH OF 1860-1861 REBEL MACHINATIONS WITH DEFEAT ROT IN 1865-1866.

    14TH AMDT SENT TO STATES IN JULY 1866

    14 AMDT DECLARED RATIFIED IN JULY 1868.

    1866 CRA RE-ENACTED IN 1870.

    14 AMDT- SEC 2 NOT ENFORCED.

    15TH AMDT IN EARLY 1869 AFTER CLOSE WIN BY PREZ US GRANT IN NOV 1868

    USA ARMY LEAVES REBEL STATES IN 1877 — AFTER 1876 PREZ ELECTION MACHINATIONS.

    BLACKS LEFT TO ROT — TO 1954 BROWN V BD OF ED AND 1965 VRA.

    P-A-T

  14. PERVERSION OF 1 AMDT IN 1968 WILLAMS V RHODES BALLOT ACCESS CASE.

    NOOO MENTION OF 1954 BROWN V BD OF ED —

    BOTH WHITE AND BLACK UNION/GOP FOLKS IN EX-REBEL SLAVE STATES NEEDED EQUAL/LEGAL PROTECTION

    — VIA 14 AMDT.

  15. First amendment is fine. 14th is an abomination. The federal government should be subordinate to States.

  16. @DFR,

    That is similar to the Jones proposal for the Wayne County Board of Supervisors. Instead of the voter choosing the district, the candidate chooses the precincts where voters can vote for him.

  17. If there’s a problem with the Bill of Rights, it’s what the antifederalists said: people would come to regard it as the federal government granting rights, rather than acknowledging natural rights belonging to and retained by the States and people thereof (see 9th and 10th). The relationship between people, States and fedgov has been reversed. It’s supposed to be sovereign individuals giving limited power to States, which in turn form a federal union for limited and specific purposes which the Constitution spells out. It’s turned into a sovereign national government granting ever more limited rights to states and individuals.

  18. The 14th amendment was never properly ratified. States under occupation and without congressional representation were not able to assess and ratify anything, but the lawless Yankee regime gave carpetbagger puppet states and unlawfully expropriated property voting rights. The entire business was a travesty, and Southern White families are still to this day owed compensation, with interest, for stolen and destroyed property.

  19. Harry –

    SCOTUS perversionS in approx time order-

    3-2-1 ADMIRALTY AND MARITIME JURIS — TAKING OVER RIVERS INSIDE STATES CIRCA 1830

    3-2-2 BIZ CORPS AS STATE CITIZENS CIRCA 1840

    1-8-3 SO-CALLED DORMANT INTERSTATE COMMERCE CL CIRCA 1870

    1-8-1 GENERAL WELFARE CL SINCE 1936

    STATES ALMOST DEAD – EXCEPT AS PASS-THRU AGENT OF FED WELFARE CASH FOR LOCAL GOVTS – OFTEN NOW COMMIE

  20. “…the legislative districts are also in violation of the Voting Rights Act. This is good news for 2024 minor party and independent candidates for U.S. House and legislative districts in Georgia.”

    Reminds me of the classic 1978 National Lampoon newspaper parody, The Dacron (Ohio) Republican-Democrat, in which a front-page headline declared, “Two Dacron Women Feared Missing in Volcanic Disaster” with the less-important sub-head, “Japan Destroyed.”

  21. AZ states still have some pull. Your proposals such as getting rid of the Senate and Electoral College would shift even more power to the feds and that’s the wrong direction to go in.

  22. The rot is in the decision mandating to Alabama how they should aportion their representation. The federal government should have absolutely no business dictating that to States. That reverses the intended relationship between federal and State governments.

  23. DURING THE AM REV WAR-

    MANY STATES FAILED TO SEND DELEGATES TO 2ND CONT CONGRESS —

    MILITARY CRISIS >>> GEN WASHINGTON DE FACTO DICTATOR IN 1780-1781.

    SEIZING MILITARY STUFF- GIVING FOLKS IOUS —

    SINCE USA PAPER MONEY [AKA BILLS OF CREDIT} HAD NEAR ZERO VALUE –

    ON TOP OF JUNK PAPER MONEY IN MANY STATES.

    MAJOR BAILOUT BY FRENCH REGIME – COIN MONEY AND FORCE – FRENCH ARMY/NAVY.

    THUS 1-4-1 IN USA CONST

  24. There is absolutely no reason racial groups should be presumed entitled to their own congressional districts. Where are the congressional districts for dwarves, left handed people, etc?

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