On July 26, the state of Texas filed a notice of appeal in Miller v Nelson, w.d., 1:19cv-700. This is the case filed by several minor parties and independent candidates against many Texas ballot access laws. The plaintiffs won a decision on June 26 that Texas must allow electronic signatures. The state is not only appealing; it is asking the judge to stay his own order.
https://electionlawblog.org/?p=137740
GERRYMANDER ROT IN TX – GALVESTON CO
WHAT WRITETH JR ???
1 PERSON NOM/ISSUE PET PAPER FORMS–
PENDING 100 PCT SECURE INET SIGS
The arrogance and entitlement of the two-party state on full display. Hopefully the judiciary branch doesn’t back down.
One signature forms do nothing to cut down on fraud. Total waste of paper stupidity.
HOW MUCH FRAUD VIA OLDE ONE PERSON CHECKS ???
Plenty.
HOW MANY SLAMMER CONVICTIONS IN USA FOR CHECK FRAUD SINCE 1776 ???
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OR EVEN SINCE OLDE BANK OF ENGLAND FORMED IN 1694 ???
Check your local county jail. Happens all the time.
Allowing candidates to pay filing fees in lieu of signatures would reduce fraud considerably, and actually give the state money to help print the ballots. A win-win.
https://www.fincen.gov/news/news-releases/fincen-alert-nationwide-surge-mail-theft-related-check-fraud-schemes-targeting
Is AZ really stupid/crAZy enough to not know check fraud is a common problem???
“Allowing candidates to pay filing fees in lieu of signatures would reduce fraud considerably, and actually give the state money to help print the ballots. A win-win.” Walter Ziobro
I agree. Thank you Walter. That would be a solution and fairer.
There is way more check fraud than petition signature fraud. AZ IS A DUMB LEPRECHAUN.
SEE MASSIVE PETITION FRAUD IN 2022 – GOP GOV CANDIDATES —
ABOUT 15 FAKE SIGS PER SHEET.
SAME FELONS SIGNING SHEETS IN CIRCLE..
SAME MORON SIGNING SAME SHEET 2 OR MORE TIMES.
QUESTION OF PCTS —
IF CANDIDATE/ISSUE GETS ON BALLOTS- THEN UP TO VOTERS TO DETERMINE RESULTS.
ANY FILING FEE FOR TOP OFFICES WILL BE B-I-G —
TO STOP RICH HACKS/MORONS AND ANTI-GOVT FOLKS FROM GETTING ON BALLOTS.
AZ supports this decision.
https://www.infowars.com/posts/girl-16-fighting-for-life-but-being-denied-life-saving-double-lung-transplant-because-hasnt-had-4-covid-shots/
The same thing can be done just as easily if not even easier with one sig per sheet. Doesn’t help any.
Just as easy or easier with one sig per page.
Just as easy or even easier with one sig per page
DO THE FELONY FORGERY —
DO THE TIME — IN A SLAMMER — AND PAY THE FINE
1 FALSE SIG OR A ZILLION SIGS.
ALONG WITH CONSPIRACY FELONIES IF 2 OR MORE FORGERY FELONS.
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HOW MANY FELONY COUNTS IN THE COMING TRUMP 6 JAN 2021 CASE ????
Yes. The only point was that one signature per page does absolutely nothing to cut down on fraud and just wastes paper, in case you didn’t get it. As for the Trump Jan 6 malicious persecution, it will go nowhere,just like all the other failed malicious attacks on Trump cooked up by the deep state/ fake news crooked cabal. These cooked up persecutions,libels, slanders, spurious attacks, phony investigations, and made up charges all only keep making Trump stronger . Only a matter of time before the deep state / fake news cabalists realise their goose is cooked, their time is up, and Trump has them beat once and for all.
@WZ,
The State requires a filing fee or in lieu of petition payable to the state in order for individuals to even be considered for nominatiom at a party convention. The State argues that in 2020 and 2022 no candidates filed a petition, and that thus there would be no harm in suspending the court’s order while it is appealed.
Christina Adkins in her declaration fails to note that the SOS’s unlawful (ultra vires) rules were enjoined by a State district court, and many candidates who were certified for the general election ballot by the SOS neither paid a filing fee or presented a petition to the State authorities.
It is conceivable that some candidates did not do a paper petition because it was more difficult than a electronic petition, or that the petition form contains a false statement that must be read aloud, or that the petition form refers to a non-existent (repealed) code section.
A filing fee does not demonstrate a modicum of support, but rather a sugar daddyium of support. It is more likely to be paid by a frivolous candidate. If your hypothetical cousin Arthur “AZ” Ziobro could get on the presidential ballot by paying a few thousand dollars, do you think he wouldn’t?
You might think that, but actually it turns out frivolous candidates are almost universally broke, and people who manage to hold on to money rarely ever want to be frivolous candidates. Also, theory aside, and regardless of the language of a petition, signatures in reality also only demonstrate having money. The vast majority of people sign for parties or candidates they don’t actually support and may have absolutely no clue about before or after signing. In most cases they sign because enough people got paid to ask enough people to get enough signatures. Anyone can get on the ballot if they have enough money for enough paid petitioning, and hardly anyone can without it.
BIG FILING FEES FOR PREZ = CUT TAXES / PAY OFF THE FATAL USA NATL DEBT
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CAN TRUMP BE A SWELL KILLER/ENSLAVER TYRANT FROM INSIDE A FED/STATE SLAMMER ???
No, he can’t. For one thing, because he’s none of those things. For another, because he will never be in a slammer. Reading fake news and wishful thinking won’t make it so. Trump will be President again, so deal with it, libtards.
@Dante,
Consider the case of Elizabeth Grey who was on the Texas Republical Presidential primary ballot in 2016.
Texas permits political parties to set the filing requirements for Presidential primary candidates. The Republicans required a filing fee and a petition. In 1988, several campaigns hired an unscrupulous company to gather signatures. The company hired a bunch of teenagers to sit around a table faking signatures, paying them with pizza and beer.
The RPT changed their requirement to a filing fee of $5000.
Elizabeth Grey paid the $5000. Various reporters unsuccessfully tried to contact the “candidate”. Eventually there was some indirect communication from Grey that she was no longer running.
She did receive more votes than four candidates including Rick Santorum and Lindsey Graham. This was in part due to the large number of candidates causing some voting machines to be programmed in a way that confused voters.
Thus the filing fee did not dissuade a frivolous candidate, did not prevent ballot overcrowding, and resulted in voter confusion.
@ JR:
“A filing fee does not demonstrate a modicum of support, but rather a sugar daddyium of support”
As it is now, a well healed candidate can get on the ballot by hiring petitioners. Recall that David Koch , the VP candidate of the Libertarian Party, essentially opened up his wallet to himself and Ed Clark on the ballot in all 50 states in 1972. Was that bad? I think he did the public a service by allowing voters another choice.
But, stop and consider, the elections departments spend a lot of money to conduct elections now. They are losing an opportunity to recover some of that cost by having candidates spend money on petition collectors, rather than simply collecting fees directly from the candidates to get on the ballot.
And, anyway, I wouldn’t deny “popular” candidates the option of getting on the ballot by using volunteers to collect their signatures, if they so choose.
JR wrote:
“Elizabeth Gray ..did receive more votes than four candidates including Rick Santorum and Lindsey Graham. This was in part due to the large number of candidates..”
Was that bad?
What is needed in crowded primary elections is approval voting. I don’t think Grey would have done as well vis a vis Santorum and Graham, if voters could have cast approval votes.
Also, with regard to Presidential primaries, a lot of states make it very easy to get on the primary ballots for President, trying to discourage any candidate from skipping their state. Some even go so far as to put candidates on the ballot without even asking the candidates
Clearly, some form of alternative voting would be more determinative in a crowded Presidential primary.
OOPS!
Ed Clark and David Koch were on the ballot in 1980, NOT 1972.
All 50 states, thanks to David Koch’s generosity.
And, the Election Dept of NO state ever got any of that; it all went to paid petitioners.