On November 17, 2023, US District Court of North Dakota Chief Judge Peter D. Welty, a Trump appointee, ruled that North Dakota State Senate Districts 9 and 15, and the two ND House Districts within each, were in violation of Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act in an action brought against the State of North Dakota by two Native American tribes and three individuals.
Based on the Gingles case from the US Supreme Court, Judge Welte ruled that the plaintiffs met all three necessary conditions:
#1: The minority group . . . is sufficiently large and geographically compact to constitute a majority in a single-member district; and,
#2: The minority group . . . is politically cohesive; and,
#3: The white majority votes sufficiently as a bloc to enable it—in the absence of special circumstances . . . usually to defeat the minority’s preferred candidate.
The legislature and the ND Secretary of State have until December 22, 2023 to come up with a plan to remedy the situation, and the new districts will be used for the November 2024 elections.
His opinion has detailed analyses as to how he arrived at his opinion.
Yuck. Terrible decision.
Kudos on this ruling.
one more perversion of 15th Amdt
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PR in all regimes
https://apnews.com/article/connecticut-absentee-ballot-fraud-bridgeport-b2786657fefa94953251571ba5aaa7ad
NEW ELECTION – CT BALLOT BOX STUFFING CASE
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SHOULD BE AUTOMATIC –
NEW ELECTION — AT COST OF FELONS/HACKS WHO SUBVERTED ORIGINAL ELECTION
https://www.yahoo.com/news/ap-election-brief-expect-utahs-141432259.html
UT-2 USA REP SPECIAL ELECTION
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CAND/INCUMBENT REPLACEMENT LISTS >>>
NOOOOO MORE SPECIAL ELECTIONS FOR LEGISLATORS
@BR,
In ND, House members are generally not elected from subdistricts. Instead, two House members are elected from each Senate district.
In a very few instances, subdistricts are used so that Indian reservations may elect a House member in a Senate district where they are a minority. That was done by the legislature.
The court’s plan links two reservations so that Indians form a majority in a senate district, so that no subdistricts are used.
The other senate district will be more decisively White.
The Democrats elected from the new district will be overwhelmingly isolated in the legislature. I suspect that the senator and both House members will be from the larger reservation.
What AZ is saying is that the individual voters who are allegedly disenfranchised can not be identified.
Alternatively, if inability to elect a candidate of choice is a denial or abridgement of the right to vote then roughly 40% of voters are denied the right to vote.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/2024-battle-senate-majority-five-090027192.html
2024 — usa minority rule senate election-
5 marginal seats
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HOW MANY TX CASES ABOUT —
EQUAL BALLOT ACCESS
MINORITY RULE GERRYMANDERS. ???
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15 AMDT ONLY ABOUT DEFINITION OF ELECTOR —
N-O-T IF EACH/ANY ELECTOR CAN ELECT ANYBODY.
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PANIC AMONG NEW ELEPHANTS IN CONTROL AFTER VERY CLOSE ELECTION OF US GRANT IN NOV 1868 IN SOME NORTHERN STATES — MOST OF JAN-FEB 1869 IN GERRYMANDER CONGRESS ABOUT NON-WHITES VOTING / HOLDING OFFICES >>> THE *NEGATIVE* 15TH AMDT >>> 1870 ENFORCEMENT ACT >>> MOSTLY REPEALED BY DEMS IN 1892 >>> 1965 VRA
https://www.wwno.org/politics/2023-11-16/election-results-see-who-won-in-louisianas-november-runoffs
LA STATE RUNOFF ELECTION —
RR SWEEP
https://www.ft.com/content/a9e9ff71-0f4a-43a9-b245-88ed4fa3d0a9
ARGENTINA ELECTION
SEE THE INFLATION RATE – AT/NEAR HYPER-RATES ???
https://apnews.com/article/oglala-sioux-tribe-state-of-emergency-crime-dfd4743a2ee099313884a554f584d282
SD RESERVATION — CRIME EMERGENCY
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/11/19/argentines-vote-in-election-that-could-lead-trump-admiring-populist-to-presidency-00127945
ARGENTINA MORE
AZ needs an enema.
@JR
I know you know this, but the law is not about inability to elect a candidate of choice in general. It’s specifically inability of a racial group (don’t ask me why race).
Could we elect representatives more proportionally? Of course we can. But that’s a political question, not something to be decided in court.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/20/argentina-presidential-election-far-right-libertarian-javier-milei-wins-after-rival-concedes
Argentina– libertarian wins !!!!!!!
HOW MANY GUARDS DOES HE HAVE ???
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/argentina-takes-leap-unknown-javier-234718638.html
YN STORY
https://www.yahoo.com/news/correctly-predicting-us-most-critical-130021996.html
GEE – GERRYMANDER MATH AT WORK
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PR IN ALL REGIMES — TOTALLY PREDICTABLE RESULTS ???
https://enr.elections.virginia.gov/results/public/Virginia/elections/2023-Nov-Gen
VA LEGIS UN-OFF RESULTS
HOW MANY GERRYMANDER DISTS WITH ONLY 1 D OR 1 R ???
MAX WIN
MAX LOSE
MIN WIN
ANY OMEN FOR 2024 GERRYMANDER ELECTIONS ???
JR posted:
“The other senate district will be more decisively White.”
This is a point about redistricting that is seldom mentioned. When minority districts are deliberately created, the remain districts become overwhelmingly majoritarian by default.
It would be better to create large, multi member districts, and let voters create their own “virtual” districts with their actual votes.
https://www.ncsl.org/state-legislatures-news/details/odd-year-election-goes-well-for-democrats-but-gop-still-runs-more-chambers
state legis after 7 Nov 2023 genl election — A FEW SEATS IN DOUBT
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more ANTI-democracy minority rule gerrymander so-called elections
PR in all regimes
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P-A-T
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/argentina-readies-vote-likely-presidential-election-thriller-2023-11-19/
REUTERS – NOT CLEAR ABOUT ARGENTINA CONGRESS MATH
@WZ,
In North Dakota each district elects one senator and two representatives. All 3 are elected at the same election for a four year term. North Dakota could switch to a unicameral legislature with 3 members from small districts (about 15,000 population) using proportional representation. You would have the same number of legislators holed up in Bismarck, while maintaining the same level of locality.
@AZ,
Are you saying that Reuters did not explain congressional elections in Argentina.
JR-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Argentine_general_election
Argentina Congress is partially PR
http://www.biblioteca.jus.gov.ar/Argentina-Constitution.pdf
1994 — IN ENGLISH — BITS AND PIECES GOING BACK TO 1810 REVOLUTION
POLITICAL PARTIES HAVE SOME CONST. STATUS
ANY USA STATE/DOD/CIA REPORTS ON STABILITY OF NEW 2023 ARG REGIME ???
https://apnews.com/article/election-milei-massa-runoff-6a171de948a034bd43c853f6d3f50f5c
ARGENTINA — AP STORY
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Dutch_general_election
PR REGIME
BUT FATAL PARL STUFF
Argentina win is excellent news. AZ and his fake news: garbage in, garbage out.
I follow ND election law and civil rights cases. The ruling was sound.
No, it wasn’t. Nothing about North Dakota or any other state makes court ordered districts for special interests ok, especially when it’s federal interference. Where are the court ordered districts for redheads? Left handed people? Catholics? Rich people? Poor people? Cat owners? Etc etc. And why is the federal government telling North Dakota how to draw legislative districts? That’s a reversal of the proper relationship between federal and State governments. The federal behemoth has grown far beyond anything intended or remotely sane, even above and beyond population growth.
The best solution for native tribes is not White man’s government “help” or idiotic wrangling over political district line’s. It’s total independence as true sovereign nations. There are plenty of successful micronations, and no reason I know of that aboriginal Americans could not manage their own.
Should Scandinavian ancestry be accounted for when drawing district lines in North Dakota? This is the level of idiocy the federal courts are engaged in.
PR IN ALL REGIMES
SIMPLE PR —
TOTAL VOTES / TOTAL MEMBERS = EQUAL VOTES TO ELECT EACH MEMBER
HOW MANY FACTIONS IN EACH STATE ??? IN THE USA ???
THE FEW SURVIVING AMERICAN INDIANS AFTER GENOCIDES SINCE 1607 {VA COLONY FORMED] WERE MADE USA CITIZENS IN 1924 AND 1940 USA LAWS.
>>> TRIBES ONLY MEAN SOMETHING VIA TRIBAL CORP STUFF.
NOT SURE WHEN LAST USA *TREATY* WAS MADE WITH AN AMERICAN INDIAN TRIBE.
ALL SORTS OF USA LAWS RE INDIANS VIA 1-8-3 IN US CODE.
Why is AZ so obsessed with Puerto Rico? It’s almost as creepy as his obsession with Pat.
https://electionlawblog.org/?p=139769
USA CT APP 8 CIR — RE VRA SEC. 2
ON TO SCOTUS ???
FOR NON-TROLL MORONS TRYING TO BE HOPELESS MORON CUTE BY T OR C OR N DAYS —
PR = PROPORTIONAL REPRESENTATION AKA P.R. — NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH PRESS RELEASES.
PRINT AND TAPE ON COMPUTER — HOPEFULLY ON ENTIRE SCREEN SO THAT TROLL MORON POSTS CAN NOT BE SEEN.
@AZ,
Why are parliamentary systems fatal?
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/2024-presidential-debates-schedule/
prez debates 2024— zero 3rd parties / indees [as usual} ???
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JR —
same monsters/hacks having legislative and executive powers — often also some judicial powers
= 2/3 — 3/3 tyrants
see olde Madison quote in Federalist Papers
GEE- HOW MUCH FATAL 2/3-3/3 TYRANT STUFF IN THE USA/STATE CONSTS
The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in the same hands, whether of one, a few, or many, and whether hereditary, self-appointed, or elective, may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny
MADISON, FEDERALIST, NO 47, PARA 2, PART
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TOTAL SOP. 1/3 TYRANTS IS DANGEROUS ENOUGH
PART OF P-A-T
@Porcus
The argument on why race and not left-handed people is that most people of a race (especially a minority race) vote as a bloc. Do they? How often? What is race? And if they’re a local majority, they should get seats at the table. Is that fair? Who gets to make the decision?
Suppose representatives were chosen proportionally, with several candidates/parties, without the spoiler effect. Would the minority race still vote as a bloc? If yes, then we’re in a sticky situation. We have to come together, or break apart (or fight). If no, then we’re trying to solve an artificial problem.
AC —
15TH AMDT, SEC. 1 — RACIST DUE TO ***RACE, COLOR*** WORDS
https://apnews.com/article/north-dakota-redistricting-lawsuit-voting-rights-d578229036691b5ac85e063ee2c9b6f3
appeal by ND regime
The notion that races vote as blocs is nonsense. Races, sexes, age groups, education levels, income levels, professions, religions, and many other demographic factors can have voting propensity. What are they going to mandate next, homosexual voting districts?