Most Wisconsin Legislative Districts Have Holes and External Appendages

According to this story, 55 of the Wisconsin Assembly districts, and 21 of the State Senate districts, are not contiguous. They either have holes inside them that consist of territory that doesn’t belong to that district, or they have disconnected areas that are part of the district. Thanks to Ken Bush for the link.


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Most Wisconsin Legislative Districts Have Holes and External Appendages — 18 Comments

  1. 1/2 X 1/2 = 1/4

    IN RIGGED PACKED/UNPACKED CONTIGUOUS/ NON-CONTIGUOUS GERRYMANDER DISTS

    MUCH WORSE BEFORE 1964 SCOTUS GERRYMANDER CASES.

    P.R. IN ALL REGIMES

  2. SINCE GOP OLIGARCHS CONTROLLED THE G DISTS –

    LIKELY —
    MORE COMMIE D VOTERS PACKED

    MORE FASCI R VOTERS CRACKED

  3. Again with the nonsense. Dummy rat voters are way more fascist than Republicans. If anyone other than the usual suspects wants to discuss, we can. Repeating the same things to the same people wouldn’t be a good use of time .

  4. OK, OK, so the reason the districts are discontiguous is because some municipal boundaries are, too.

    The article gives an example: “This island, part of the Town of Washington, is in the Republican-held 68th Assembly District but is surrounded by the city of Eau Claire in the Democratic-held 91st Assembly District.”

    And the question the article raises regarding districting is “So, which trumps which? Contiguity or municipal lines?”

    The article is missing the point: THE “TOWN” OF WASHINGTON IS NOT A LEGITIMATE PLACE! Go on a mapping service and type in Washington, WI. Look at the boundary. Do you see a town? I don’t. “Washington” is a fake amalgamation of part of an Eau Claire neighborhood, a few little subdivisions, farmland, an industrial strip along a road, and one almost-kind of-hamlet with one tavern that apparently has good crispy chicken wraps and cheese curds (of course). There appear to be several other cases in the state, too. What was the State thinking when they reviewed and approved these boundaries, and these municipal charters?

    Also, I’m an authoritative source on Wisconsin because I visited La Crosse once. I only had cold cheese curds and Duluth Trading didn’t have any clothing that fits me. 😉

  5. CENSUS USES WHATEVER THE STATE USES FOR SO-CALLED POLITICAL SUBDIVISIONS — INCORPORATED OR NOT —

    DOWNTOWN BOONDOCKS CROSSROADS VILLAGE / ETC.

    PR- CONTIG DISTS / SQUARE

  6. WILL AZ EVER STOP ASKING RIDICULOUS LOADED RHETORICAL QUESTIONS ????

    I MEAN THEY’RE OBVIOUSLY TROLL MORON QUESTIONS. IT’S TEXTBOOK TROLLING. AND INCREDIBLY STUPID. STUPID IS AZ STUPID DOES.

    IF YOUR ONLY KNOWLEDGE OF REALITY OUTSIDE YOUR BASEMENT COMES FROM FAKE NEWS, DO YOU COME UP WITH A DISTORTED PICTURE OF REALITY LIKE AZ ??? OR IS HE STRICTLY TROLLING ??? MAYBE NOT AS DUMB AND CRAZ AS HE PRETENDS TO BE ????

  7. @AC,

    In Wisconsin, towns are the civil townships used in other states. Counties are divided into towns. Typically they correspond to survey townships which are roughly 6 miles square.

    Cities and villages in Wisconsin are independent of towns. If they annex land, it is deannexed from the town.

    If you are a farmer you have no need for cities or city government. If you are a land developer, you need water and sewer service. You make a deal with a city to annex your land. The developer likely builds the streets and roads and pipes and passes the cost along to homeowners and businesses. The city collects taxes. Cities prefer industry and businesses because they require fewer services and have no pesky voters.

    If there are already houses in the area they may have well water and no sewage connections. The city will bypass them creating the municipal islands.

    If you mapping software does not show towns it is defective.

  8. Michael McDonald’s analysis is superficial.

    Senate districts are composed of three adjacent house districts. If the house districts have holes then the senate districts will have holes.

  9. I’m going to disagree with Jim Riley slightly. As farmers, we benefit from cities and have uses for them. We don’t want to live in cities (for the most part. Some neighbors feel compelled to the next generation to preserve and pass on the family farm. Some can’t sell everything they got without going broke, or don’t have marketable skills in cities and the cost of living there is high, etc). But they have other uses.

    For instance :

    Keeping most of the people who live in cities from living elsewhere. If they didn’t live in cities, they’d have to live somewhere. I’m not for starving them all to death. Logically, say you eliminated all cities, population density everywhere else would go up. Land prices and land taxes would be higher.

    If you’re looking to expand, that’s not good. If you’re holding steady, you’re paying higher tax for the same yield. You can offset that with short term profit by selling a chunk here and a chunk there. But that’s a losing game in the long run. Easy to paint yourself into a corner that way.

    There’s a reason that humans have our section of the property, and pigs have theirs. We have different cultural customs and values. We don’t like it as much and don’t do as well when forced to live among each other.

    Cities are a concentrated market for products. Ham, bacon, sausage – they can’t get enough. Imagine all the gas lugging all those porkbellies to 8 different markets all in different directions instead of say 2 in the same general direction.

    If you want to hear country, go to the city. Where would the big Nashville, CMT star attractions play on tour? Our local honky think? The one a few miles down the road? No, they’re going to pass those right on by and pull right on in to that big city arena or stadium. Maybe the same one we caravan to after church and Sunday dinner to tailgate at the NFL. After all, we already watched the local game Friday night.

    A lot of farmers have other jobs. Farming doesn’t always pay all the bills. So Where’s that job going to be at? Chances are, probably in the city. The commute is going to suck, but it beats cooking meth in the old barn on the back 40 where grampa used to have the still at. Between the Feds, the Shetiff, and the Mexicans, you’re better off sitting in traffic 4 hours a day. It beats sitting in jail, being a sitting target, sitting at funerals, and all that kind of stuff.

    Say you got 8 kids, and there’s only one farm to inherit. Do they each get a tiny little piece? What happens after a few generations? You couldn’t have a pig in a poke. Shoot, you’d have to section off a pig in a blanket. No, what you gotta do is, figure out which one is the best bet to pass it to their own kids, and ship the rest of them rascals off to the city.

    The more I think about it, the more useful I think cities are. They can even be a nice place to visit, at least if the left hasn’t run completely roughshod. I just wouldn’t want to live there. But, I’m glad some other folks do. God bless ’em!

  10. WHAT HAPPENED TO *PRIVATE* PROPERTY IN OLDE RUSSIA IN 1917-1918 ???

    WHAT IS THE STATUS OF *PRIVATE* PROPERTY IN THE USA —

    ESP IN DONKEY COMMIE STATES LIKE CA, NY, IL, ETC. ???

    *LOADED* QUESTIONS ???

  11. I got you guys off topic but thanks for the responses. I guess there’s no one size fits all when it comes to local land division and districting.

  12. “I guess there’s no one size fits all when it comes to local land division and districting.”

    That’s one big reason that we have a federal system. Different strokes for different folks.

    But, now, the federal government tries to control state and local governments by giving them money and stuff, with conditions attached. It’s a big reason why owr “federal” system is becoming less and less so.

  13. This new “federalism” is one of the reasons that secessionist movements don’t go very far today. It’s had for states to give up “free” money.

  14. NO *FREE* MONEY — JUST MORE INFLATION AND USA DEBT —

    AND EVEN MORE STATES/LOCALS DEBT DEPENDING ON THE USE OF SUCH *FREE* MONEY.

    TOTAL GOVT ECON ROT SINCE 1929-1941 GREAT DEPRESSION AND 2007-2012 GREAT DEPRESSION II.

    NOW THE D/R GANGSTERS COMPETING ON WHICH GANG CAN INFLATE DEBT THE MOST PER PREZ TERM.

  15. Yes, AZ questions are loaded, like AZ himself? Absolutely Zany?

    How could there be any competition? Remember inflation under Carter? Reagan bringing it down? Remember stable prices under Trump? Look at Beijing Bidenomics inflation through the roof? Competition, what competition?

    Dummyrats = debt, dumb kids, dementia Joe, devil worship, dank basements, dope, damaged brains, diapered faces, disease spread, depopulation agenda, donkey punch, double penetration, demo rep, dingbats?

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