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Summary of Recent News on Trump 14th Amendment Challenges from Election Law Blog — 42 Comments

  1. I agree. It’s definitely the most important battlefront in the ballot access war now or, like, ever.

  2. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2023/12/12/trump-election-fraud-supreme-court-jack-smith-immunity/71889722007/

    Trump immunity case in SCOTUS

    Will he show up in SCOTUS and make his now standard brain-mouth attacks — on SCOTUS ???

    Be held in contempt of court and be arrested by the Marshal of the Court and put in a DC jail – like any other big mouth nutcase jerk raving on the streets ???

    Where is indictment of Trump for inciting/conspiracy of/for insurrection/rebellion ???

    — ie esp of subverting now olde 1887 EC count act ???

    See *or the laws* in 18 USC 2383.

  3. You’re getting ahead of yourself, troll moron. Even your fake news story admits “first the supreme court will need to decide whether to take the case at all”. The smart money would be on a pass.

    I could debunk the rest of your nonsense easily, but why would it be worth the time and effort?

  4. There are lots of reasons people leave congress. The Republican party is in the midst of a major phase shift. That phase shift will benefit the GOP and the country tremendously, but not without pain to lots of rhinos and even a few good ppl, depending where they live.

    A lot of it has to do with district lines. It’s complicated. A lot of dims are leaving too, and a lot more announcements or change of plans are yet to come. Also , a lot of Republicans are more afraid of the primary than the general. That’s going to end up being a good thing since they will be replaced by better Republicans for the most part.

    That didn’t work out as well as hoped last year due to a massive reeeee by dims over roeeeee. But by next year, that will get way overwhelmed by the strength of the Trump wave and the weakness of the Biden ticket.

    Trump does much better when he’s personally on the ballot. Look at 2016. 2020 was only close due to covid. That won’t work a second time since Biden would get the blame.

    2024 will be even way better than 2016. It won’t be within cheat range for dims. The economic weakness will get blamed on Biden. Trump is way ahead on every major issue except Roeeeee. And that one can be overcome with Trump and all the other issues.

    So what if Kennedy and possibly No Liver are on a lot of ballots, main stage debates, media coverage, campaign budget and looking plausible in polls? They won’t win, but Trump will do better in a real 3, 4 or more way race than 2 way. Already well proven in primaries and polls.

    What ends up happening is that Trump has the most loyal core base. Being not Trump won’t work for Biden when he’s sitting president. Everything they throw at Trump just helps Trump, but they can’t help themselves. They will just keep throwing more and it will backfire on them even more, rinse, lather, repeat.

    The electors stack even heavier to a plurality winner, which is another reason to keep the electoral college, and no, regardless of where you come down on that, they won’t get rid of it in under a year remaining. There is simply no plausible scenario for Trump to lose next year, period.

    Will dims cheat? Absolutely, with both hands, brazenly, openly, covertly, every which way they can. But it won’t be enough. At best, they will make it look like less of a landslide and try to use that to screw up Trumps second term. But this time, he’s ready for that in ways he never was until way too late in the first term. That lesson and the time since has not been wasted.

    If Dims try to claim they actually win, it will be actual war, and they’re not ready. They will have the cities, big cities rely on country side much more than vice versa. The military will splinter. Law enforcement, retired military and LEO, and legal or otherwise largely law abiding and trained gun owners will be heavily on the Trump side.

    They can try bringing in foreign troops. Let’s just say that won’t work out for them either.

    I don’t think they will be stupid enough to go there. They will riot and do stupid crap, try to make it look like it was closer than it was, but concede Trump won and not go into all out war.

    Trump will win big enough to have major coattails everywhere. He will save America,and together with like-minded leaders around the world help save our civilization.

    You don’t have to believe me. Hide and watch. Save this link and check here this time next year and tell me I’m wrong then. Because I’ll be right.

  5. TOTALLY RIGGED CRACKED/PACKED GERRYMANDER DISTRICTS =

    CURRENT COMMIES VS FASCISTS IN USA CONGRESS AND ALL PARTISAN STATE AND LOCAL LEGIS BODIES.

    1/2 VOTES X 1/2 G AREAS = 1/4 — SUPER-WORSE IN USA SENATE- MANY LOW POP STATES.

    A-L-L EXTREMISTS VIA RIGGED BALLOT ACCESS LAWS AND PRIMARIES / ETC.

    THUS — TYRANT BIDEN VS TYRANT TRUMP — GANG *LEADERS*.

    SEE TYRANT ROMAN EMPIRE — NONSTOP DEATH, DESTRUCTION AND SLAVERY 27 BC-476 AD

    USA — ONE MORE EVIL AND VICIOUS GANG EMPIRE OF DEATH, DESTRUCTION AND TAX/DEBT SLAVES

    — FALSELY CLAIMING TO BE A *DEMOCRACY*.
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  6. Countries, years, and reason for yay and nay, please? Any real democracies in the last 100, 200, 300, or 1000 or 2000 years? When and where?

  7. It’s not commies vs fascists. Fascism is not right wing, despite what commies tell you. The Biden administration is the most fascist government this country has ever had. Democrat run states and especially cities are the most fascist state and local governments in America. The European Union is more fascist than the USA.

    ALL of the real fascists – the ones in power somewhere, not the LARPers – are considered liberals, progressives, socialists, or centrists by the fake news and people like AZ. MOST of their followers think of themselves as those things and not fascists. The only exception are the most fascist countries in the world, which are officially “communist.”

    None of them have ever achieved their goals of communism. The closest? Pol Pot. After that probably the Kims in NK. THEN maybe Stalin, Mao, and Ho Chi Minh. But all of them were fascists. Officially, they were or are socialist. But workers don’t own the means of production, bureaucrats do.

    Even if those bureaucrats have working class or peasant roots, they become their own class. They suppress workers much more brutally than any capitalist ever did, then become crony corporatist, with or without ostensibly pretending to uphold “democracy” and or liberal values.

    The left is more fascist than the right. The least fascist politicians Actually in office anywhere in the world are the ones AZ calls fascists and slanders every way possible.

    Out in the fringes there are self described fascists larping at political party and candidacy crap. These are generally losers, diagnosed or undiagnosed mental patients, addicts, agents provocateurs from government and or the far left, actual real life trolls and morons, Darwin award candidates, suicides in training, petty criminals, or any combination thereof. They are not and will not be in power. The real fascists kill or brutally suppress such people pretty early on, soon after naive idealist morons who think they are communist.

  8. Really? Duh!

    Explain this a million more times. You will be equally successful at convincing the exact same 5 or 10 people.

  9. STATISTS AND STATISM —

    IF LEFTIST COMMUNISTS/COMMUNISM AND RIGHTIST FASCISTS/FASCISM IS NOT GENERAL ENOUGH.

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  10. Bro.

    It’s not that it’s not general enough. It’s that it’s generally wrong .

    The “left” and “right” are not equal. Generally at least within the frame of people who ever get elected as anything more than a fluke the left is more statist than the right. Like by a lot. The further left, the more statist. The further right, the less statist.

    Democrats are more communist on average AND more fascist than Republicans. MAGA republicans are less fascist than rhinos / pre Trump GOP ESTABLISHMENT.

    When you try to make it like they are equivalent, and read establishment news which actually heavily distorts their stories in favor of the left, you get a twisted picture like as if they are both equally bad or the right is even worse.

    Nothing could be further from the truth .

    Diversify your reading habits. Find a right wing news aggregator and or discussion site and spend at least as much time reading that as yahoo news and the like. I mean something to the right of Fox/Murdoch’s, who are basically just establishment shills.

    You’ve been given pointers before and just dismissed them, but riddle me this: if both sides were really equally bad, why do you read and share from just one side ???

    You’re either dishonest or incapable of stepping on your own crank every step you take. Or, I’m wrong and you will give this a try. Keep reading the fake news to get their perspective, but 50% less, and give equivalent time to the MAGA-MEGA perspective. I’ll be surprised if you do it, but you’ll be happy you took me up on it if you give it an honest try for even a month or two.

    I won’t hold my breath, turning blue is not my thing but seriously – get an equal dose of both long enough for it to sink in, and try to approach thing as with just a little bit more of an open mind if you are actually still capable of that.

    You’re stuck in a rut, making no progress and just spinning your wheels more and more and getting more stuck.

    This could get you unstuck.

    Try it.

    Seriously, what is it you think you have to lose? What success are you having with current approach? Ask yourself .

    Nobody is trolling you. We are not morons. As far as I know Nobody is paid to post here. I’m not. If you are, I don’t see how they’re possibly getting their money’s worth, but whatever, it’s their money not mine, no hate and more power to you, but I have no such need or want for myself.

    It’s not a conspiracy or an operation . A lot of us just don’t agree with you. This is not the battlefield. There are not enough people here to pay anyone to post a thousand times a day under a hundred names to .. Fewer people than that, most of those hard to convince of anything ever. It’s not plausibly cost effective .

    When you call people names and all the other crap you do, of course you get pushback. It’s a bad cycle. Break free. Try diversity in reading and discussing things with at least a somewhat open mind.

    How’s the opposite of that working out for you?

    Ready to at least give it a try?

  11. PORCUS CAN TRY TO HAVE A PORCUS POLITICS DICTIONARY — OF WORDS/PHRASES

    AGREED TO BY ALL POLITICS FOLKS

    GOOD LUCK

  12. Nobody knows how soon the US dollar crashes. Argentine peso already has. It’s unlikely US Dollar crashes in under a year. But not impossible.

    If it does, crypto , gold, lead, other metals, stored commodities, prepper items and networking, survival skills, land, real estate, generators , water purification, security systems, etc etc will be more important than elections.

    Asking that in the context of the awesome win in Argentina and idiotic spin from ultra biased cbs fake news is horrible framing. Unless you think the people CBS and their like consider good or reasonable are the best bet going forward, your perspective needs more balanced input to unwarp.

    The people that got us to the point where ANYONE would take that question seriously, other than the morons who fall for it ANYTIME EVER, are the ones your sources push as the sane choices.

    Unless we go even more “progressive ” but where does all that “progress” lead? Gulags. Starvation. Killing fields. Prison nations. Population replacement. Prison planet. Engineered mass depopulation.

    Unless that is really seriously what you actually want look in the opposite direction. Contrary to the lies your sources tell you, that opposite direction – Milei being an excellent example – is liberty NOT fascism. Your sources are the real fascists. Capice?

  13. Lol Az no. I’m no more capable of that than you are. All politics folks will never agree on anything. That’s the nature of politics. All I said is stop spinning your wheels, get a better balance of views, and try to be open minded. Simple.

    You’re either capable of it or you’re not. If you feel like you’re having awesome success, keep doing your thing. You don’t seem happy to me, or like you are getting happier. I’ve suggested a solution. I doubt you’ll try it. But you should if you can. You would thank me eventually if you did.

    Spin that any way you want. I don’t care. It’s impossible to help people who are unwilling to help themselves. If you have no open mind on anything, expect the same in return. You already know all this, so do your thing. I’ve said what I had to say. Take the suggestion or ignore it.

  14. https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/nation/2023/12/06/fake-donald-trump-electors-settle-civil-lawsuit-in-wisconsin-agree-that-president-biden-won/71826256007/

    Fake Trump electors settle civil lawsuit in Wisconsin, agree that President Biden won
    Scott Bauer
    Associated Press

    Madison, Wis. – Ten Republicans who posed as fake electors for former President Donald Trump in Wisconsin and filed paperwork falsely saying he had won the battleground state have settled a civil lawsuit and admitted their actions were part of an effort to overturn President Joe Biden’s victory, attorneys who filed the case announced Wednesday.

    Under the agreement, the fake electors acknowledged that Biden won the state, withdrew their filings and agreed not to serve as presidential electors in 2024 or any other election where Trump is on the ballot.

    The 10 fake electors agreed to send a statement to the government offices that received the Electoral College votes saying that their actions were “part of an attempt to improperly overturn the 2020 presidential election results.”

    The settlement marks the first time that any Trump electors have revoked their filings sent to Congress purporting that Trump had won in seven battleground states.

    Fake electors were charged in Georgia and Michigan, and Trump faces charges in Georgia and in a federal investigation of his conduct related to the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol riot.

    HOW SOON BEOFRE TRUMP GETS ANOTHER INDICTMENT RE ALL HIS GANGSTER CRIMINAL CONSPIRACY F-A-K-E 12 AMDT ELECTORS ???

    18 USC 2383

  15. You could teach pigs to sing more easily. Trust someone who actually literally tried teaching pigs to sing, putting lipstick on them, etc : what they say is actually literally true. It’s figuratively equally true.

  16. How soon before AZ stops posting the same nonsense over and over? LOL

  17. WOULD A PORCUS POLITICS DICTIONARY AGREED TO BY A MAJORITY OF POLITICS FOLKS SUFFICE ???

    EDITORS — TYRANTS BIDEN/TRUMP — WITH THEIR POISON PENS ???

    HOW MANY LEGAL / POLISCI GROUPS NOW IN USA / WORLD ???

  18. HOW MANY ANTI-BRIT REGIME COMMENTS IN 1760-1776 IN THE BRIT-AM COLONIES ???

    — THE TIME OF BRIT *SEDITIOUS LIBEL*. NON-MORONS CAN SEE 1789-1791 USA 1 AMDT – SPEECH/PRESS/ASSEMBLE PARTS

    HOW MANY ANTI-SLAVERY COMMENTS IN 1776-1865 IN THE USA ???

    HOW MANY CRIMINAL LAWS IN OLDE EX-SLAVE STATES RE ENDING SLAVERY IN SUCH STATES ???

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  19. I don’t know how to answer any of that. F around and find out? I’m less worried about what a “majority” of some ill defined group (or of 88-112 iq ACRs) agree with than I am with the truth, my ability to understand it, and my ability to impact outcomes.

    I’m a tiny piece in a giant puzzle and i get in where I fit in. I certainly don’t accept going with the flow if it looks like it’s headed over a cliff. I also don’t intentionally paddle against the flow all the time and wear myself out.

    I disagree with equating Biden and Trump and calling Trump a tyrant.

    I don’t know or care how many of whatever groups there are. It’s completely irrelevant.

    If what you’re getting at is that the leftist establishment passing itself off as a “consensus” uses your preferred BS that Trump is a tyrant gangster , fascists are right wing etc — no shit, Sherlock.

    They are doing that for a reason.

    To pull the wool over everyone’s eyes.

    I’ve explained why and how.

    They are termites. Fabian communist scum. Cultural Marxists. Globalist Luciferian “enlightenment” illuminati. Pedos. Bad people. Very dishonest. Fake history . Fake news. Miseducation. Propaganda. Spin. Constant. Everywhere. All the time.

    So. You’re either ready for the red pill or you’re not. If you watched Matrix or look it up. Take it, or don’t. More and more people are taking it and waking up, which is actually the opposite of “woke” (the most deluded of sheeple and sheepdogs in reality).

    Waking up is just like in the matrix or putting on them sunglasses in Them. Look that up too if you never saw it.

    God is on our side. We will Winn

    Trump beats aces kings queens jokers etc

    So yes ..anyway.. The real poison pens are the fake consensus you keep reading, spinning and propagating. Propaganda poison pens . Pure putrid pabulum. Pinko pap. Preferred poison of purple people eating pill poppers. The real phascist Fauscist fauci fascisti.

    Praying for you, angry old man. God may have a place for you in heaven yet. But you need to at least stop circling the drain and at a minimum get to purgatory.

    Or get on your knees, stop fighting Jesus and beg for forgiveness. He died for you and He loves you. Each and every one of us is a sinner condemned to hell but for His precious blood!

    Commie fake consensus be damned and to hell with the devil!

  20. Dude. He’s not actually asking you questions. He’s fully demonically possessed. We’re not exorcists.

    He’s here to waste your time and spread propaganda. Ignore the old pitiful fool. Speak truth like he isn’t even here.

  21. Threepeat : you are of course correct.

    Self correct: I meant They Live, not Them. That’s a whole other movie. Although Them (2021) summary sounds like it could be relevant – but I didn’t see that one yet.

    Mark: while I didn’t anticipate that, may be I should have. Castro is bringing discredit to a case which is already weak on merits to begin with. He further taints it by his otherwise nonexistent campaign and arrogant condescending treatment of the people he ostensibly tried to persuade.

    Kind of like IF AZ was still filing legal cases and actually really “running” for president in the form of filing ballot access paperwork for the sole purpose of filing pro se lawsuits in various states.

    Takeaway 1; commie cause wants to file less deficient 14-3 lawsuits themselves or see others do so, hoping their crap will be marginally better at sticking to and smearing The Wall, and wants to stem the bad precedents bleeding from Castro aforementioned further tainting their already precarious legal stretch

    Takeaway 2, less plausible: In their opinions, it would actually be better if Trump is the Republican nominee because either

    A. They hope to knock him off after already nominated (or before but too late for one of the also rans or dark horse to gather enough steam) – hail Mary pass, but if it connects, more damaging to GOP than if he were knocked off earlier on

    B. They’re getting high off their own supply and think he’ll drag GOP DOWN in the main event next fall.

    I can actually see why they would think that given the big ’22 belly flop. But bear in mind:

    * neither Trump nor Biden were personally on the ballot

    * voters first opportunity to react to Roeeeeee overturned

    * demon rats seized overreact wave attack ground and stayed on attack against GOP more busy fighting internal battle while they mobilized

    * Trump does much better when personally on the ballot, better yet when on attack against incumbent party from opposition, better still in 3 + way

    * Trump leads Biden big on every other issue and has all the momentum

    * dims overbank on abortoir lobby, ignore economy, inflation, immigration, Biden family corruption, China, dope, trade, increasingly unpopular foreign wars / aid etc etc ; abort wad blown and washed out by bigger wave

    * yes, I know how old Trump is. He’s just not nearly showing the effects of age the way Biden is.

    * all the desperate anti Trump hail Mary’s one after the other are backfirng from the bogus indictments to all the 14-3 nonsense to no lube , lawsuits, allegations, fake news etc …coming on the heels of all their other failed past Trump Trump “killer” moves.

    * Tds fatigue sets in. Teflon Don just gets stronger and stronger as they build herd immunity continuously to their endless overreach through their own inability to stop doing it and wait for him to flounder without anything to keep counterpunching. In other words if they IGNORE TRUMP he is relatively less strong than if they focus on Trump. But they can’t help themselves.

    For all these reasons and more, they ought to be careful if 2, and especially 2b is their real reason for being anti Castro.

    But ultimately it doesn’t matter because 14-3 is going nowhere, with or without Castro. The only difference is the exact pipeline path of the poop as it washes out to sea, along with all the rest of the desperate last minute stop Trump Rube Goldberg Wiley coyote schemes.

    But there are many paths and none of them lead to anything but ALL that anti Trump poop washing out in the deep deep ocean harmlessly with all the other prior stop Trump attacks.

    Bottom line: Trump wins again and there is literally nothing they can do to stop it. Literally their best move would be to do nothing. Trump is a winner except when he beats himself. Cheating won’t get them over the top this time. At best close. Probably not even. Their ability to stop feeding into Trump and let him punch air? Non existent.

    They have NO positive case to make for themselves except Reeeee Roe and that only gets you so far. Loses air every go . Biden already admitted he’s only running to try to stop Trump and aborted trying to run on Bidenomics. And it’s still 11 months out . This will be brutal for them. Nothing but bleed out all the way to the finish line.

  22. Boil down attempt.

    Either

    1. They try to hope courts/14-3, Kennedy/no lube, bogus indictments etc etc stick to the wall somehow, smear it and take it down – none do, they lose again

    2. They try to run the 2020 sneak again but it can’t work twice. Lockdown, economy crash? Current president blamed. Cheat? Way more scrutiny ahead of game, way more votes to harvest, flip, etc due to aforementioned reasons

    3. They try to run on abortion, abortion, abortion . Sorry, but abortion fatigue sets in. Economy, border, overdoses, job export, inflation, crime, debt, war, corruption ultimately more important

    4. They try to ignore Trump and tout Dark Brandon, Bidenomics, and their laughable positive case. YOOGE belly flop.

    No matter how you slice it, massive Trump win, made all the more massive the better 3rd and 5th parties and independents perform – but that’s just icing on the cake.

    Trump will win, and will be sworn in. Anyone wanna bet?

  23. I’ll tell you what . I’m going to take my own advice and stop making the case for Trump. He does that just fine himself.

    And

    I’ll let AZ flail and punch air and wear himself out trying to hit nothing. AZ makes a far better case for Trump than Trump supporters ever could. Fellow Trump supporters, please work with me on this.

    Congrats to the undisputed unchallenged king of nothing. Let AZ defeat AZ in silence. Our sole remaining interest In This Site , if any, should be the song contest.

    I know you can’t herd Trump supporters, we’re a Wiley bunch and nobody died and made me boss. Yeah yeah yeah. But please guys, let’s give it a try. Everyone work together, say nothing else and just let AZ BE AZ. I PROMISE, IT WILL BE SPECTACULAR !!!

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