Both the Libertarian Party and the Green Party are circulating independent presidential petitions in Ohio. Because neither party has yet chosen national nominees, each is using stand-ins on the petitions. Ohio law explicitly allows stand-ins, who will resign from the ticket when the actual nominees are known.
The Libertarian petition now carries the names of Tricia Sprankle for president and Ken Moellman for vice-president.
The Green petition has Jill Stein for president and Anita Rios for vice-president.
The Ohio independent petition required 5,000 signatures, but the party petition requires 40,345. Therefore, each party is using the easier method, although unfortunately candidates who use the independent petition cannot have the party label on the ballot. The only qualified parties in Ohio in 2024 will probably be Republican, Democratic, and No Labels. The No Labels Party submitted its party petition over eight months ago and the state still hasn’t said if it is valid, although it is very likely the state will make that determination before the end of the year. No Labels submitted more than twice as many signatures as were required.
The No Labels Party finished collecting their signatures in Ohio about a year ago.
So no lube sits on their own petitions and then states do too. Weird, but ok, whatever. They probably won’t run anyone anyway.
Andy, yes, but then they went out and got some more.
Andy might be thinking of when it was over as far as the petition company multilevels he’s in touch with were concerned.
Who would have.gone out and collected more signatures other than a paid petition company. I doubt they have any volunteers.
My suspicion is the SoS office has people promoting the NL party, but they do not want any other candidates filing. Hence the SoS office is waiting until the last minute to approve the petitions. It would be hard for a house or senate candidate to file if there is no party.
Lulz, Andy. They are a well known thing. They could easily have volunteers. Or people you’ve never heard of paid by outfits you never heard of for reasons that never occurred to you. Or mop up teams that don’t operate through the multilevel networks you’re familiar with. Maybe confidentiality was part of the contract.
Think outside the box. I’m not saying whether it happened, much less how. I don’t know. I care very, very, very little to not at all.
Steven – I doubt it. Although, you could be right.
My first guess is they’re hoping there will be no ticket, thus no need to check autograph authenticity. Or even if there is one that it will be subsequently withdrawn.
It’s possible that they are hoping the maximum possible number of autographs turn out to no longer be registered electors of that state, or perhaps have moved to a different address, by the time the authentication takes place.
More importantly, should they rule insufficient valid autographs of valid voters were collected, too many voters mistakenly or maliciously signed more than once, etc, they might wish to minimize legal challenge and appeal periods before injunctive relief becomes impossible due to ballot printing.
There could be many plausible explanations, including plain old bureaucratic laziness and procrastination, and even ones I’ve never thought of.
IF NOT STATED TO BE STAND-INS = MORE FRAUD >>> BAIT AND SWITCH LATER
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ONE MORE REASON TO ABOLISH EC — AND ALL THE RELATED ROT
NONPARTISAN EXECS
I agree with the pig farmer.
Meanwhile, Jones Santos petitions list a Michiganeh shut-in at the top of the ticket in every state.
I signed a Jones Santos one signature form that was taped to a port a pot wall in Maine. I’m not sure what happened to it, but I’m pretty sure it didn’t go to the town clerk in my town.
Probably used for t0ilet paper. That would be my top guess.
I was going to guess the same thing.