On December 22, California Governor Gavin Newsom criticized statements by other California Democratic office-holders who favor keeping former President Donald Trump off ballots. See this story.
On December 22, California Governor Gavin Newsom criticized statements by other California Democratic office-holders who favor keeping former President Donald Trump off ballots. See this story.
He’s smarter than his underlings. Trump won’t get California electors. If he’s kept off the CA ballot what happens?
1) Spurs Trump fundraising and turnout in other states
2) fewer Trump hating dims turn out, therefore more GOP wins in marginal districts and even some places you would’ve expected a D lock – majority minority areas especially, thanks to Demexit
3) bigger, more damaging riots when Trump electoral college victory is an even bigger mismatch to the so called “national popular vote.”
Interesting point. Maybe we should support the dimtardest of libtard states keeping Trump off the ballot.
Rationale : like you said about CA. Bigger fundraising and bigger turnout where it matters. Bigger chimpout after the fact from reeeee dimtards.
And, we won’t be this lucky, but it’s been said that voting is how Whites riot. What if they don’t let us vote? We have the guns, training, countryside and numbers. We can starve y’all. We got God and Jesus on our side. Game over. F around and find out.
IF TRUMP IS ELECTED IN NOV 2024 WILL HE ORDER THE USA MILITARY TO WIPE OUT ALL COMMIE DONKEYS IN CA, NY, IL, ETC ETC ???
SEE HITLER PURGE OF HIS ENEMIES IN JUNE 1934.
HOW MANY UN-CONSTITUTIONAL ACTS OF WAR ORDERED BY TRUMP IN 2017-2021 AND BY BIDEN IN 2021-NOW ???
IF TRUMP WINS WILL AZ FINALLY SHUT THE FUCK UP?
AZ WILL VOTE FOR TRUMP AND THIS TIME IT WILL COUNT !!!
AZ WILL REDUCE COMMENTS WHEN ALL TYRANTS ARE DEAD AND ALL REGIMES HAVE —
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ONE ELECTION DAYS
EQUAL BALLOT ACCESS – VOTER PETS/FILING FEES
PR – LEGIS
APPV – NONPARTISAN EXECS/JUDICS
TOTSOP
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SEE *TYRANT* AND HIS GANG IN 4 JULY 1776 DOI.
FAKE NEWS. THE OTHER AZ WILL REDUCE COMMENTS FOR HEALTH OR DEATH REASONS BECAUSE THAT OTHER STUFF WON’T HAPPEN.
FASCIST BIDEN WILL NOT WIPE EVERYONE OUT BECAUSE TRUMP WILL WIN AND SAVE AMERICA!!!
https://www.yahoo.com/news/dems-gop-both-won-big-090059975.html
2023 ELECTION STUFF
MORE STATIST RIGGED ELECTIONS ROT IN 2024 ??? DUH.
FOX, BARELY BETTER THAN OTHER FAKE NEWS.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/5-dates-january-could-reshape-180810172.html
SOME JAN 2024 ELECTION DATES
THE ONLY WAY TO PREVENT THIS IS TO VOTE JONES-SANTOS IN 2024!
SCREAM IT EVERYWHERE!
After the 2020 election, the Arizona legislature authorized a “forensic audit” of the November election returns. It showed that Biden did carry Arizona. It even showed that the official count had slightly cheated Biden.
JONES SANTOS 2024 , SIGN IS UP AND NOT BEEN SHOT UP BY NEIGHBORS ONE TIME SINCE THEN !!!
If you only count legal, valid votes, Trump clearly won Arizona in 2020.
Is it against the rules to point out that harvested, illegal, multiple and muled etc votes were missed by forensic audit? That’s an on point rejoinder so why would that be memory holed?
Hank, the “forensic audit” authorized by the Republican-majority legislature, was in the hands of consultants chosen by the legislature. Those consultants had worked in the past for Republican candidates. They took months and explored the voter registration records as well as the chain of custody for all ballots, as well as a recount.
Just because you want to believe something is true, doesn’t mean it is true. It’s like believing in Santa Claus.
St. Nicholas was a historical person. The Siberian shamans drinking the urine of reindeer and “flying” off the hallucinogenic mushroom byproducts there in were also real, flesh and blood people.
Supposing even that the audit was perfect at matching registration , duplicate and chain of custody? Did they interview every voter? I’m betting not.
How many votes were harvested?
There’s a Santa Claus. He answers Santa Claus mail and sometimes runs for office in Alaska. Richard Winger, of all people, ought to know that.
There is too a Santy Claus, silly. Giggles.
Richard Winger is lying because he voted for Biden.
I don’t believe he’s lying but is wrong, and I’m guessing he probably voted for burn l00t murder Marxist “libertarian” ho horgensen and lil boy spikey, but he didn’t catch that it’s very hard to catch the world’s most organized criminals dead to rights.
Investigation after the fact is connecting dots on the tips of needles in haystack. Catching them in the act and proving it to a judge and jury’s satisfaction, even way harder.
If you’ve ever spent much time around criminals, you know most of them are very very very very far from organized or sophisticated or smart. And yet, you might be shocked at how many orders of magnitude more crimes never get caught than do.
The chain of custody, records etc aren’t nearly as definitive as you might think, regardless of who’s investigating it.
Trying to investigate and prove crime after the fact, much less during commission, is a lot harder than you might think it is or than infotainment might lead you to believe.
Now imagine how much harder it is to catch truly well organized criminals working hand in hand with corrupt government traitors and enemy foreign governments.
This is why secret ballots and especially electronic and mail ballots are such a horrible idea, and recorded standing counts are needed.
Richard, what is your opinion on standing counts?
They work fine at conventions and caucuses. Why not for all elections? Of course that would be a lot of votes if done by candidate. Another reason why it should be by party. The winning party can then caucus separately afterwards and pick officeholders as it sees fit. Another reason this is better: vote for ideas or policy directions, not crap like who’s better looking or more charming or better at pretending they feel your pain.
Anyone who hasn’t read “Yes Virginia, there is a Santa Claus” should not wait a second and look it up right now. You can thank me later.
Nephew Porcus nails it yet again!
The British do a good job of counting ballots. In every House of Commons district, there is a central counting office and the public is welcome to attend and watch. Ballots are counted by hand. This is feasible because generally House of Commons member is the only office on the ballot, so it isn’t that much work to count them by hand.
Anyone who lives in Arizona and doesn’t believe the vote count is honest ought to volunteer to be a polling place official. There is a small payment made to people who do that. More important, they are trained in advance of election day and the training is a good opportunity to learn about the safeguards in the process. I have been a polling place official most elections, starting with November 1964 when I was only 21 years old. That was the only time I experienced counting votes by hand. That was in Alameda County, and that was the last election in which votes were counted by hand. It was grueling.
Some places banned people from watching the count, obviously so the Democrats can commit more fraud.
Counting ballots is a small part of the problem. The biggest problem is were the people casting them present of mine and know who they voted for? Did some faulty programmed or hacked machine flip their vote? Did someone harvest their vote and cast it for them ? Etc, et c etc . I see Mr Winger never answered about a standing count off, on the record. Why not?
Speaking of Arizona
https://www.infowars.com/posts/shock-video-illegal-aliens-stream-across-az-border-as-crossings-hit-record/
How many will vote for Biden?
All of them, and twice on Sunday’s.
* present of mind not mine
Mr. Winger, are you still insisting there is no Santa Claus despite all the evidence?
DOES THE TROLL MORON PICK ITS FAKE NAMES EACH DAY OUT A TRUMP USED TOILET ???
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R W — UK – HOUSE OF COMMONS —
FIRST DARK AGE REGIME WITH ANTI-DEMOCRACY GERRYMANDER DISTS — LATE 1200S. — USED BY MONARCHS TO GET MORE TAX CASH — FROM DIST OLIGARCHS
NOW WITH 3-4 LARGER PARTIES — UNDER 25 PCT MINORITY RULE.
LIKELY END OF MONARCHY IF COMMIE LABOURS WIN NEXT HOC ELECTION.
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PR
APPV
TOTSOP
It seems the troll moron has been sticking to one name lately (AZ) BUT may be not. Zero evidence that anyone else here used more than one name besides AZ/DEMO REP/DEMO N/DEMO CRAP
The troll moron sees many people disagree with it and spreads fallacious propaganda that they are all one person and that they, not it, is the troll moron.
What a retarded troll moron, troll moron AZ, the one and only BAN troll moron!
Demon Crap out of Satan’s AZZ ???
LOL yes sir, it sho do!
The troll moron’s absurd insistence that everyone who disagrees with it is a troll moron using hundreds of names is a distraction from the question of whether Richard Winger would support switching to on the record, open, non secret roll call or count off voting by party as opposed to ballots (and especially the pernicious and evil secret ballots, which encourages fraud on a mass scale, especially when mailed or electronic).
If not, why not?
Yes, that is indeed, the question of the day. Where does Richard Winger stand on this proposal, and why?
Blood, CKF and others:
The two letter troll moron could have a few legitimate reasons for its absurd contention. For one thing, it may not know that some of us actually know each other in real life, and may have followed others of us here by invitation.
To take just one example, Porcus Agricola is Pig Farmer’s nephew, as well as Latin for pig farmer. I happen to have met them, although I’m not either one, and know this for a fact. They are separate people. They are in fact both in the hog farm business, on separate but nearby to each other pig farms.
For another , it probably doesn’t know that some of us participate in invitation only private chats of like minded people and other boards where terms and concepts it’s not used to seeing elsewhere are common.
To give away another open secret, some of these chats and forums are about resisting the sneaky Bolshevik Fabian propaganda that continues to be reinforced through the use of words, terms, historical lies etc they have perverted and twisted to the point that few people recognize that they are being fed and further amplifying lies and propaganda whenever they repeat them.
Suckers discussion. Distraction from question reiterated by wmct at 808 am today and Blood just before and many other more interesting discussions. Ask me why it’s a stupid question to discuss if you’re not AZ and care why I think so.
Many good question for Mr. Winger above. I hope we get answers.
True, and many good points about Santa Claus. Too bad they always get ignored or buried. The first two comments were also good.
More questions.
How many ineligible or duplicate voter registrations slip through cracks?
How many people are pressure by others they live with or in their communities to give up their absentee votes or cast it as someone else dictates or gave it cast for them?
I mean we can keep going and going with questions like that.
Yes Virginia there is a Santa Claus. Also , vote fraud is very real and prevalent. In ways even forensic audits done by people trying hard to catch it won’t catch.
Yeah, but who really cares?