On April 27, the Constitution Party national convention nominated Stephen E. Broden for vice-president. He lives in Texas and was the Republican nominee for U.S. House in 2010, in the Texas 30th district. Here is his wikipedia page. The presidential nominee, who had been chosen earlier in the dat, recommended that the party nominate Broden for vice-president.
Broden is the first African-American nominee for the Constitution Party for either president or vice-president.
https://unitedstatesprogressparty.wordpress.com/
Hallelujah! The news I have been waiting for hours to hear! Praise God!
Borden news, not website “party”
Praise Jesus!
Ah good, then Terry won’t turn down the nomination and we won’t be stuck with Skousen as I was starting to fear.
Praise the Lord!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_Party_(United_States)
CP – WIKI
https://constitutionparty.com
CP – WEBSITE
CP – CONVENTION: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_Party_National_Convention
If someone here knows how to do the maps as was done for 2008 and 2016, the national party Secretary, Cindy Redburn, can provide the state delegation data. The originals were done back in 2013 by a Wiki contributor with the handle Ariostos.
I have little (read no) interest in helping the wikipedophiles with their revisionist “encyclopedia”, but might I suggest just taking Ariostos’ maps and doing them over with Paint?
https://independentpoliticalreport.com/2024/04/flash-cp-nominates-terry-broden-elects-new-officers/
Wikipedia is hot garbage –
https://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia
They appear to have dodged a bullet with Skousen. Allegedly, he claims 360 million illegals came in under Biden and 160 million are already US registered voters. 36 million and 16 million seems plausible, but 360 and 160? I’m seeking comment – confirmation or correction.
AZ bot – Nuna troll
So, “wingnutpedia” is spelled “metapedia”? Got it. Fix that spell checker.
Shut up Stock, you leftist Satanist scum.
Alabama Rigger: I am not SocraticGadfly. I did not make that comment. I NEVER use a pseudonym.
Alabama Rigger: By the way. I am not a Leftist. I am a member of the Communist Party USA. Leftists are not radical enough for me. I am against reforming the present Capitalist system. I advocate Socialist Revolution and completely removing Capitalism from the United States.
Wingnutpedia is spelled “wikipedia” but the real truth is it is a wacko pedo pedia. Metapedia, an actual collaboration encyclopedia for intelligent and honest people of good intent, points out all the myriad problems and biases of Wikipedia – or at least a good introduction to them. Dismissing all those issues without examining them in detail is intellectually dishonest.
Even
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Even if you want to raise issues with metapedia in turn, the issues it raises with Wikipedia still need to be addressed.
Stock is once again denying his multiple troll personalities. What a retard.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/house-incumbents-not-running-reelection-204750260.html
Here are the House incumbents not running for reelection in 2024
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HOW MANY QUITTING TO GET MAX PENSIONS ???
MORE EXTREMISTS TO REPLACE THEM
CAPITALISM — SAVINGS TO MAKE CAPITAL GOODS — IN A-L-L REGIMES
TOO MANY NEW AGE ECON TROLL MORONS TO COUNT.
DEMOCRACY CAPITALISM
VS
MONARCH/OLIGARCH CAPITALISM. [OFTEN FOR WARS – FORN / DOMESTIC]
ANY ***NO PROGRESS*** INTERNET PARTIES ???
100%
Comrade Robert Stock, CPUSA does not consider yourselves leftist? I am a communist for total socialist revolution, death to capitalism, capitalists, and capitalist shills.
I look forward to torturing them to death during and after the workers revolution. But I consider that to be leftist. I support the DPRK and Juche. I think we are further left than the CPUSA.
Comrade Taran.
Stock is not only a retard, he’s also crazy since he’s talking to himself using his “Taran” persona.
You know the drill, child.
I agree with Taran. Left is about how much socialism. 100% socialism leading to communism is as left as you can go.
Taran, what are some of the torturers you look forward to administer to capitalist scum and shills? I know you’ve mentioned eating them alive.
Robert Stock, I’m likewise interested to know in your understanding of the political spectrum. Is mine wrong.
Also, what are your views on torturing capitalism scum after the revolution?
Would you agree with me that whites need to be physically genocided, not just blended out of existence through interbreeding? The white boneheads call that white genocide, but I think that’s weak bullshit. I believe whites need to be physically eliminated. A real white genocide. White lives do NOT matter.
Now Stock is posting as Dylan. Seriously man, seek mental help.
Go away, child. Adults are talking. Shouldn’t you be in Sunday school worshipping your imaginary sky daddy? Lol
Nobody.
Commies should be thrown in prison for life!
HOW MANY BAN TROLL MORONS ON THE FBI/DHS/ETC WATCHLISTS ???
AZ is on a watchlist?
Weird. I thought I answered Dylan’s question earlier.
Eating alive, feeding to animals, hunted by animals for human entertainment, worked to death, medical and scientific experiments. Keep it functional, no wasted effort.
I also agree with Dylan about white genocide. European colonizers must be physically removed, starting with Palestine and Turtle Island (“America.”) Then it is our turn, the formerly colonized, to colonize Europe and wipe them out like they did our ancestors.
Dylan: I am opposed to genocide and torture for anyone.
Taran and Dylan: I equate Leftist with Liberal not Communism. Lenin wrote a book titled “Left Wing Communism An Infantile Delusion” For me Leftist has a bad connotation.
Robert, your answer to Dylan and Taran is disingenuous. You support bloody revolution and killing capitalists and celebrate the blood red communist vampire flags which stand for revolutionary bloodshed. At least, you have said you do in the past. Did you change your mind?
You say that like it’s a bad thing.
Correction, the title of Lenin’s book is “Left Wing Communism An Infantile Disorder” not Delusion.
Is Lenins corpse still in a mausoleum?
Jed: If the Revolution is violent then it will be the Capitalists firing first. Any bloodshed would end when the Communists have successfully defended the working people from their exploiters.
Red flags began to symbolize Socialism when the Corporation bosses ordered the massacre of Socialists and Anarchists at Haymarket in Chicago in the 1880s. It is the shed blood of Socialists, not blood shed by Socialists.
It is my hope that the Revolution will be bloodless, but the Capitalists have never allowed that in the past.
Q: Lenin’s Tomb still exists, but I think his body was moved shortly after Yelsin became President of Russia. I would hope it was buried or cremated. But I don’t remember what happened to it.
When did the bloodshed end under Lenin, Stalin and Mao? When communists defended the working class from their oppressors?
Maybe I’m just remembering it wrong. I swear I remember you saying you look forward to a bloody revolution. I’ll see if I can find it.
Confused: In the Soviet Union the bloodshed ended at the end of the Civil War. Unfortunately Lenin died and Stalin betrayed the Revolution. The State Stalin created was not Marxist-Leninist. George Orwell explained what happened in his book Animal Farm. Orwell never gave up on his Socialist ideas, but wrote a warning about what happens to a Worker’s Revolution when the focus is taken off the masses and a Cult of Personality and Bureaucracy is put in it’s place. With that said, Stalin created a country that was a backward agriculture society into an industrial powerhouse. The majority of the Russian people were better educated,fed, and housed than any period of Russian history.
Mao Unfortunately followed the errors of Stalin. Even so Mao and the Chinese Communist Party lifted more people from poverty in a shorter period of time than any other country in history.
No country is perfect. No country on Earth including the Western Democracies are without an ocean of blood and tears. But going forward we learn from history and avoid the mistakes of the past.
Like Joe Biden, I’m going to bed, so this is the last one from me tonight, I think.
How about Pol Pot in Cambodia? Laudable example? No country is perfect?
Confused: The Khmer Rouge atrocities were ended by the Vietnamese Communists. Communism is not monolithic. Engels said that once a Socialist Society is established people will still struggle. Utopia is not an option in Communism or any other system of government or economics.
MORE INTERNAL PURGES IN COMMIE OR FASCIST REGIMES ???
100.00 PCT PURE PURGING THE MERE 99.99 PCT PURE ???
ANY FLAG COLORS IN 1848 UPRISINGS. ???
OR IN 1871 PARIS *COMMUNE* UPRISING ???
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenin%27s_Mausoleum
MERE 100 YEARS OF EMBALMMENT —
CONDITION OF BODY ???
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Commune
TOO MANY FACTIONS / FLAGS TO COUNT ???
>>> 3RD FRENCH REPUBLIC — FOUGHT CENTRAL POWERS IN WW I
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutions_of_1848
MORE FLAGS/ COLORS ???
OLDE WATT STEAM ENGINE IN 1750S >>> MORE *CAPITALISM* IN 1800S —
STEAM BOATS // STEAM RAILROADS >>> MAJOR POPULATION INCREASES WITH MORE FOOD
Utopia is literally the goal of communism. Dystopia is the reality. Communist regimes killed a hundred million of their own people in the 20th century, far more than even the Nazis.
Speaking of Vietnamese communists, what about the millions of Vietnamese people who fled Vietnam in boats after the communist north won their civil war? Or the people risking their lives to flee communist Cuba even now?
Then there were all the people shot trying to escape the communist part of Berlin over the wall. Yet people kept risking their lives to escape. Some made it. Some didn’t.
A place people risk their lives to escape is called a prison. Why did communist countries make it illegal to leave? Places that are great don’t have to try to keep the people there from escaping. Only prisons do. Communist countries are giant prison nations, quite literally.
The US is building a wall to keep people out. Israel has a wall to keep people out. Communists build walls to keep people in.
You can see North Korea from outer space at night, because there are lights on in South Korea, but not on the North. There, like everywhere else communists come to power, they kill people trying to escape.
I forgot to mention that a large percentage of the people the US is currently trying to keep out, with little success since Biden has floundered in what’s likely to be his only term in office – in large part for that exact Reason – are fleeing communism in Venezuela, the latest communist basket case.
Of course, the US is not the only place Venezuelans are fleeing to. All of their neighbors and much of Latin America is having tremendous problems with millions of refugees from the communist government in Venezuela.
You might claim that government is not communist, but it is. It’s very friendly with Cuba, and its disastrous economic policies are more socialist than nominally communist China and Vietnam are today. Combined with internal political repression, a hallmark of every communist regime ever, Venezuela is absolutely communist, whether they formally genuflect to Groucho Marx and John Lennon or not.
“Excessive love of freedom” was a psychiatric diagnosis in the USSR. Involuntary confinement was the usual medical protocol. That is, people were confined to mental asylums and medically tortured for the official reason that they loved freedom too much. This went on as late as the 1980s and happened to people I knew personally.
There was another Soviet era psychiatric diagnosis. I’m trying to remember the term. It amounted to not fitting in. Like, being an eclectic individual, or just the unpopular kid in school
This also happened to at least one of my classmates. It would have happened to me, if I expressed my tastes and preferences in art, music, fashion, hairstyles, etc in ways American kids at the same time took for granted.
This was the 1970s and 80s, long after the Soviet Union stopped slaughtering its own citizens on an industrial scale. Kinder, gentler mass murder – just killing people’s spirits, not their mortal flesh.
I was into punk rock and heavy metal, which were illegal in the USSR before Gorbachev. Tapes and records were smuggled into the country like as if they were narcotics. If I had worn the hairstyles and clothes I wanted to in my high school days I would have been put in a mental asylum for “obsession with freedom” or “ill adjustment.”
Probably more than you wanted to know, but there it is.
So, you’re like my dad’s age. He’s from the USSR also and was into that same kind of music back then. He told me stories of that nature. In America, fight for your right to party was just a drinking song. For my dad and his friends when they were young, it was much more.
I’ve lived in Russia more recently. Thank God it’s not like that anymore.
HOW MANY RUSSIANS TRYING TO ESCAPE TYRANT PUTIN DRAFT TO BE KILLED/INJURED IN PUTIN UKRAINE WAR ???
President Putin is not a tyrant. We had a Presidential election when I lived in Russia and they just had another one this year How many captives of the phony “nation” of Ukraine are going to be killed and injured in the war their tyrannical genocidal regime and its puppet dictator started?
Their ruling gang, incidentally, came to power in a coup in 2014 and suspended their most recent presidential election. President Putin has always been elected and reelected freely.
The Euromaidan coup in 2014? Try the Orange Revolution ten years earlier, you antisemitic “when I lived in Russia”-“when I fought for Luhansk”-ass banderite fraud. Better yet, try the October Revolution that pulled the very existence of a “Ukrainian people” out of its rectum.
Shut up, troll. Romashka only said their ruling gang came to power in 2014. Not all the preceding history. But nice try. As for “antisemitic” even you would know the Khazars , who are not actually even Semitic, have been the enemies of Russians and – since you claimed to be Cossack – Cossacks as long as our people’s have existed.
I think you are the actual banderite or fed if there is one, but more likely you are just a troll, and maybe a piece of shit seed of Satan khazar demon.
Slava Perunu, Slava Rossiyi!
Nice sock-puppet banderite, but you aren’t fooling anyone.
Jews in “Ukraine” have suffered under you since 1917 just as much as any other groups, e.g. Cossacks, Poles, Hungarians, Russians.
Wait I’m a Cossack now? What an honor! I only said I was using the correct Cyrillic-to-Latin transliteration, instead of the incorrect ones used by uneducated “Ukrainians” and Russians. You can’t even keep your fairy tales straight. Lmao.
Слава Богу, Победа России,Свободу и Мир Донбассу!
I was hoping Joel Skousen would have won the Constitution party presidental nomination.
Yeah, ok troll. I was here long before you, and unfortunately for you, many people here know me, from more than just here, including IRL. KHAZARS WERE OF COURSE COMMIE COMMISSARS AND MARX WAS KHAZAR, JUST LIKE THE CURRENT PRESIDENT OF THE KIEV KHAZAR KHAGANATE.
Your people , that is your real people the Khazars have been nothing but trouble for thousands of years.
So now we know where your H comes from, Xazar, not Cossacks like you first implied.
Any Russian would know all this without a word, we know what you khazars are, ever since Khazaria in the Caspian over a thousand years ago, you satanic filth.
And now we can see where your Russian comes from. At first I thought probably Google translate but maybe you’re Khazar from Russia, likely mossad – “by way of deception they do war ” – you. Hovno sobachye as you might pronounce it, lol
Wait, are you two or three, same person or just gay?
Oh oh oh – yet more ignorance of Russian history and Russian language, not to mention an outpouring of antisemitic blood libel, from the banderite. My my my – I am surprised. Not. As you said before, let all of this go on record, so the Nuremberg 2.0 tribunal can reckong this against you even before Christ does.
Yeah troll, ok, I ain’t biting. Go troll somewhere else.
I don’t believe in your Jew Christ. Roma does, not me. I believe in our ancestral gods. If you actually knew jack shit about Russia you would have caught it earlier when I said Slava Perunu, Slava Rossiye! So, there’s your one bite. Now you can go jump in the lake.
Haha gays confirmed also fuck Russia and fuck Ukraine. And the bear y’all rode in on.
Actually screw it, just for shots and giggles – troll says antikhazaric blood “libel,” which is you khazar paedophile scum drinking the blood / adrenochrome of White children. That is a fact as you would well know. But I never mentioned it until you did, zhidovskaya krysa. Bey zhydov, sposay Rossiyu, and Rossiya dlye Russkikh, slava pobede! Take that, filthy zhid bloodsucker vampire!
And your little lulz kike sock too!
Speaking of funny crap, the yid says banderites and yids in southwest Russia “suffered” under Bandera since 1917. Who was Bandera in 1917? An eight year old boy? Did he steal your yid forefathers dreidel on the playground in Odessa?
Who exactly does the troll say oppressed yids in 1917? Cossacks maybe? LOL. You forgot to look something up before you posted yid, but keep talking with your forked tongue and devil horns LOL
Smert zhidam!
Nuna is Jewish? I can’t say I’m surprised. But, your right, it does explain his or her preference for the H over the G. They say it like that , like “Ukrainians.”
Cossacks are not big fans of Jews in Novorossiya or anywhere in Russia. Neither are Russians, generally. Stepan Nunya can’t help keeping stepping in it.
Ain’t no half stepping when the caskets closed, you get rolled over by Luganskiy Mafioso…
G, you would know as well as I do. If it’s a fed, why would it waste its time? Banderites are scum, but they wouldn’t be here, and Any way why feign such ignorance of all the things it’s obviously looking up as it goes?
Jew, missad is the obvious explanation. Banderites, filthy as they are, don’t like Jews any more than we do. So it must be a Jew. QED.
Nice false flag, Nunaseyevich. You can roll up the Imperial Flag and unfurl your true Israeli flag now, you false flag comedian.
LOL First you promote me to Cossack, now to Jew? I can’t stop winning as you can’t keep your fairy tales straight!
But please rewind and run that bit about worshiping Perun by me again. Do you also abduct priests and tie them to idols and burn them as an offering to Perun, like your buddies in the Azov Battalion do?
Banderites suffered under Bandera before his birth? What nonsense are you trying to attribute me now? Maybe learn to read before you attempt to ask for elucidation.
Nuna, who did you say Jews in Ukraine suffered under since 1917?
Stephan Bandera 1909-1959. I think that’s why your frenemy said your Jewish forefathers had his dreidl stolen on the Odessa playground in 1917 when they were 8 years old by Stepan.
@Q
“Ukrainians”, i.e. a non-existent “ethnoi” whom Lenin invented in 1917 with the specific purpose of replacing the people living in there, including the Jewish minority who were targeted even before most Cossacks, Tatars, Poles, Hungarians (except in those cases where the latter were openly allied to the white movement).
So you were trying to say GZ is a communist? Why do you think that, if so?
If by GZ you mean the Perun worshipping neopagan larper, what I said was that he is just another sock-puppet for the “I lived in Russia” “I fought for Luhansk but don’t know how the native population would spell it” “I hate Jews because I’m jealous of their IQ” banderite.
There’s no shortage of antisemitism on either side of the war there. People like Rusich batallion on one side. AZOV as mentioned on the other. There’s always been a lot of antisemitism in Russia and Ukraine. Not as bad in Siberia where I was a kid, but even there I was inn the receiving end of some of it, I just didn’t know that’s what it was until years later in retrospect.
Antisemitism was the reason Soviets let us out as pawns in a cold war detente game, we were “refugees” here (not really, but officially). We came over in 1979-80 when I was 7. Originally headed for Israel where my uncle lived, but while we were in Vienna he wrote my dad and said don’t even think about it, no jobs and mandatory military service. Mind you he was a big Zionist before he went there, later ended up in the US before he died.
We eventually ended up in the US and my mom already had relatives here which I didn’t even know when we were still in Russia. I still have relatives stuck on both sides in Russia/Ukraine, my cousin is on the Russian side just over the border in Belgorod, my dad has people in Odessa and Crimea. My parents are strongly on the Ukrainian side, but mostly because my dad’s an American leftist now, like most Jews here (but not most Soviet emigrants of the cold war era – he’s the odd duck there.)
to make things worse my aunt and her daughter are in far north Israel getting shelled in their city. So all that sucks and is very sad. Also sad, but not surprising, to see the vile things being said about Jews, Russians, Ukrainians here – all part of my heritage and family.
I’ve always been antiwar, more so now that my family is caught up. I don’t get into politics anymore, just read here every once in a while for old times sake .
I hope all this hatred is lifted out of people’s hearts and they elevate to higher chakras
So no answer regarding the accusation of communism implied in 1917, or what else happened then?
Paul, go back to hell.
Paul, are you a gay?
Also, are you a commie?
Paul, are you allowed to vote in the US? IF YES you should strongly consider voting for Trump despite your belief in chakras and being gay. Trump has done more for Israel than anyone, even Netanyahu.
Also only Trump can save America from the Mexican and Chinese and islamofascist who as you know I’m sure all hate the Jews.
And our Lord and Savior Trump is also the best for Christians, if you don’t hate us.
Plus he’s way more antiwar than Biden and you said you are anti-war.
Think it over.
Is Paul the same person as Nuna since their both xazar yids kikes? We don’t want him in Lugansk.
Q, you do understand that the “Ukraine” invented by Lenin is the “Ukraine” of Stepan Bandera and Roman Shukhevich (whom your creepy little friend presumably named himself after), right?
Unlike Russia, “Ukraine” and “Ukrainians” haven’t changed since 1917. Russia under Putin, Medvedev and Yeltsin is nothing like Russia under Lenin, Trotsky and Stalin. But “Ukraine” under Zelensky, Poroshenko, Yushenko and Timoshenko is exactly the same as it was under Lenin, under Makhno, under Petliura, under Bandera and Shukhevich.
Nothing has changed. “Ukraine” today is are merely carrying on the genocide and occupation that they began in 1917.
I disagree with the last caller. He is exactly the kind of fresh meat we love in Lugansk jail.
I’m sorry, were you asking me questions? You don’t realize I only ask questions, hence q?
Q sounds like a q anon gay.
Can we skip Lugansk jail and send him straight to the black dolphin ???
Yes, Paul Nuna to black dolphin asap, we are hungry for fresh meat, especially jewsy steak!
Is Stephen Broden named after Stephan Bandera? They’re name can’t be a coincidence, right?
That seems unlikely. Borden is a Negro and Bandera was a red national socialist.
Romas parents named him Roman. A lot of us here know him well enough to know that, stupid troll. You need to learn to troll better if you’re gonna troll. You have no idea how much you stepin it and how many retarded things you say, but keep it up because it’s so funny to those of us who actually do know about the things you pretend to, when you have no clue .
The penchant for exaggeration and fake outrage combined with complete ridiculous attempt at know it all and total cluelessness, roflnuma
Nuna is an entertaining troll. Precious!
It’s wild how many references he/she misses and sometimes gets later or not at all. Looking stuff up as she/he goes but a bit lazy and inept at it.
WHEN WAS FIRST MENTION OF *UKRAINE* IN WORLD HISTORY ???
ALL SORTS OF TRIBES WENT WEST THRU UKRAINE TO ESCAPE OTHER INVADING TRIBES FROM THE EAST –
MANY LATER TO INVADE OLDE ROMAN EMPIRE AFTER 180 AD
SEE BOOK –
OUTLINE OF HISTORY BY H.G. WELLS
1917
Taran, Dylan, and Robert Stock:
May Day greetings, commie trash. Communism is horrible and soul destroying in practice, and wrong headed in economic theory. I grew up under it, and it sucked.
Nuna, you oversimplify the history of Ukraine significantly. It didn’t exist as a province within the Russian Empire, but the idea had roots earlier. It wasn’t simply invented by Lenin and the communists. Mind you, I’m fully on board with our special operation, although much too old to serve. I served with the Red Army in Afghanistan.
Gen Z – sorry to see you posting crude antisemitic trash, and as always I hope you find your way back to Christ. I thought more highly of you than that until now, to see you speak like a gutter punk. I hope you’re not involved with fascist skinheads, because that generally leads to the penal colony as your retirement plan. Easter greetings, and God be with you.
Nuna – I’m pretty sure Roman lived in Russia. I didn’t know him then, but I’ve known him for over a year now, and we’ve talked a good bit. I’m from Moscow, not Lugansk, but Russians there do say Lugansk. Ukrainians and Jews say Luhansk.The etymology is double – Luhan river and Lug. I have Ukrainian family members, like many or maybe even most Russians.
I’ll take your word for it that traditional Cossacks say Luhansk, but I doubt that’s a thing ordinary Russians encounter there very much, or at least depending on who they spend much time around. Cossacks have largely blended into Russian society, and while some are rediscovering their cultural roots in the post Soviet era, it’s likely that most people of Cossack ancestry pronounce it like Russians. Honestly, I haven’t paid enough attention to tell you for sure – I’ve spent a lot of time around Sochi and Crimea, though.
In any event, Facts, Here, and Roman are correct about the reality of communism. I also share many of Paul’s sentiments. I didn’t mean to write so much, it’s a fault of mine, and I won’t have time to follow up until some time after Easter.
Roman is probably right about Nuna being a troll, but he/she may just be an idiot.
If Roman was a banderite, why would he pretend otherwise? It’s not like their cause has any shortage of adherents in the USA or on this board.
How would Nuna possibly know whether Roman lived in Russia?
As for mentioning his defense service, it’s highly unlikely it would cause prosecution under the neutrality act. He posts under a fake last name on an obscure message board, might use VPNs and other privacy tools, doesn’t discuss details, and words things carefully. Even if he didn’t, the last Americans prosecuted for violating the neutrality act were in 2016, for a case stemming for military action in Africa in 2014. It’s a very rarely enforced law.
There is no such thing as denaturalization or stripping citizenship for natural born US citizens. There are a number of grounds for which it can be done to naturalized citizens, but violating the neutrality act is not one of them. It’s very rarely done in practice. Roman said his father was born in Russia, so he himself was probably born in the US, and lived in Russia temporarily as an adult, in Novorossiya, as he says. While it’s possible that he didn’t, Nuna has not given me any reason to doubt anything Roman says.
Whereas, some things Nuna says are grotesque exaggerated distortions, as you would expect from either a troll or someone who gains all their knowledge only from online research and then puts an extreme spin on select facts, ignoring larger context.
That’s the rub. There’s no functional difference between a crank and a troll. They function the same way. From the outside, you can’t tell a difference. They have different reasons for such behavior, but there’s no way to tell, and the result is the same. The best way to deal with them is not to. Scroll past them like they don’t exist.
MaxZ: Happy International Worker’s Day. You running dog lackey of the bourgeoisie.
An to all of the MAGA Republicans on this site, to quote the title of a Woody Guthrie song, “All You Fascists Bound To Lose”
Thank you, sir. I hope to be the best running dog in the Iditarod, and indeed in every other race, for my fellow Russian and world bourgeoisie. Competition drives me to be the best at all I do, including being a running dog. I also love international workers, and even employ several in my businesses, both at home in Russia and abroad.
I’d be a Trump supporter if I lived in your country, although I think both Russia and the US should be divided up in a thousand pieces – the idea of anyone except Jesus, who didn’t want the job, being chief executive of a 9 digit population is so far beyond absurd, words fail me.
I like Woody Guthrie, and many other commie musicians. Do you like any capitalist musicians? If so, what’s a capitalist tune you enjoy? I like Tax Man by the Beatles, for example.
Sorry, spent more time than intended again. I need to stop, and get back to work. If I wasn’t the boss, I’d be reprimanded right now.
One last thing before I go, hopefully for a week or more:
For a commie song I like, the first thing that comes to mind is This Land Is Your Land. Fellow readers, what are your favorite commie and cappie songs, if anyone wants to join in on the fun?
I’m no more a fan of fash than I am of commies, but I can even enjoy fash music, albeit rarely – most of it is just not good musically. Kolovrat can be good when they’re not trying to do heavy metal. Heroes of ROA, for instance. In real life, the ROA were traitors, and deserved the mass graves and gulag deaths they received. Fighting against Stalin was no excuse for allying with Hitler.
There I go, going off on tangents again. I will assess myself as the running dog I am: bad max, bad! Back to work, you lazy dog! No kibbles for you!
Damn it, Maxim Maximovich. That cracked me up. I don’t have any songs off the top of my head. Maybe I’ll remember to think of some.
Robert Stock, May Day greetings – what is your opinion, in retrospect, of the Molotov Ribbentrop (“Stalin Hitler”) pact and the idea of premature antifascism that Guthrie and other CPUSA fans and followers endorsed? Would you have followed the party line, during and after the pact, had you been an adult CPUSA comrade at the time?
Favorite fascist song – chest I krov by Kolovrat.
Favorite commie song – pretty much anything by Rage Against the Machine. Bulls on parade, unless I think of a better one.
Favorite capitalist song – all about the Benjamin’s by a negro capitalist and sex pervert. Rap is crap, but it can be a guilty pleasure sometimes. Actually, not all rap is crap. There’s some good Russian Nationalist and even Russian White Nationalist rap, like TAZ, believe it or not.
@Reality
You are completely incorrect about the neutrality act. As if you are trying to entrap people. Oh wait that is exactly what you are doing, banderite sockpuppet.
@LOL
Y’all are doing a great job at ignoring me so far, I must say. I seem to be the most talked about subject on this site these days. Of course, almost all of that talking is done between different sockpuppets of the same person and possibly one or two sycophants. But still, clearly I hit a sore spot and got under your skin. Enough for you to accuse me of looking and making things up as I go, the way you yourself/yourselves quite obviously are. Satan forbid an outsider come along and learn the truth, huh, better forewarn them against that troll/crank so they dismiss it offhand.
@MaxZim V Zaslon
Since you speak relative sense, I would like to believe you are merely naive and optimistic rather than just another banderite sockpuppet of Roman-wannabe-Shukhevich’s. However, you seem to be missing some important context of his contradictions and antisemitic outbursts:
See the comments under https://ballot-access.org/2024/04/27/randall-terry-wins-constitution-partys-presidential-nomination/
Lol, ok troll, let’s play, I have a spare minute. Please name anyone who was prosecuted under the neutrality act more recently. How many people or prosecutions? Cites, please. I assume you have no other evidence to present against the rest of my facts and logic?
Name calling only gets you so far. And that’s not very far.
Prosecutions? You pretend like they got an actual trial before being disappeared to a black site or murdered? Of course you do. After all, you are asking me to mark myself for abduction and torture by giving out details that are not even admitted to between departments much less public knowledge.
No, I don’t think so. I may be stupid, but I’m not yet quite that stupid. “Assume” all you like. You can even pretend the US is not disappearing Americans who support Russia on a daily basis, if you want to. Which reminds me, was Russell Bentley your own handy work, or did you ask your “Ukrainian” butchers to do him in for you?
If name calling does not get you very far, then why are you calling me names?
If I’m a troll, shouldn’t you be taking your own advice and scrolling past me like I don’t exist?
And if you are the troll, you can hardly blame me for not incriminating myself at your behest.
Ok, keep playing games . Evidence, cites for your latest claims? None?
As for my assumption, it was only because you addressed only one small aspect of what I said in the previous round. You’re always welcome to go back and address the rest, of course.
You can tell me who Russell Brentley is if you want, or not. Did he disappear for supporting Russia to a US black site?
You may indeed be stupid, but you’re oddly smart, kind of like rain man. So, make it rain already? If Russia supporters are disappearing to black sites, why haven’t you? You, like Roman, are an anonymous poster on an obscure message board. Maybe it’s only a matter of time before the black helicopters take you up there with the Jewish space lasers and shape shifting alien reptiles, Elvis and Tupac and Biggie.
As to ignoring you, yes, I should. For now, I haven’t. We’ll see how well I exercise self control going forward. You’re a special kind of stupid, sorta funny I guess. Almost like you’re pretending.
We’ll have to disagree whether calling you a troll is name calling.
I think the game we’re playing is “last person addressing the other loses.” You can prove me wrong if you’re willing and able.
On zha naturalniy debil blya, ne khera on ne pretvoryayetsa.
I’m sorry, GZ, Google translate doesn’t work unless you put it in Cyrillic, at least as far as I know.
Good question. Let me see.
Actually, it does. Go take a look for yourself.
Q: I think Stalin betrayed the Revolution and the state he created was not Marxist Leninist. If I lived at the time I would have quit the CPUSA because of their adherence to Stalin. Most likely I would have joined the Trotsky inspired Socialist Workers Party in 1928.
The CPUSA today has no intention of creating a carbon copy of the Soviet Union, China, Cuba, or any other country. The CPUSA will look at contemporary conditions and apply Marxist Leninist principles to today’s changing world.
The CPUSA advocates keeping what worked in history and avoiding the mistakes. Stalin means nothing to the CPUSA today.
Don’t we still have Trotskyist parties now? If Trotsky was the correct interpreter of Marxism-Leninism then, why not now?
Comrade Stock (or do you prefer Mr. Stock, like a capitalist lackey running dog?),
Do you have a favorite capitalist or fascist tune? Or, do you only listen to communist music?
Communist: immortal technique – pretty much anything by immortal technique. I really like Obnoxious where he runs through little Havana yelling viva Fidel.
Capitalist – freedom of speech , also by immortal technique. Tech discusses the dynamics of cutting the records companies out of selling rap music and marketing it himself as an artist-entrepreneur . Runner up: dance with the devil by immortal technique.
Fascist – several bars or verses of Colombian coke by immortal technique. Runner up: dance with the devil, by immortal technique.
What is it about Trotsky that makes the west prefer him over Lenin and Stalin? Is it because he was a proponent of “free love” and abortions? Is it his comparative lack of success? Weren’t Lenin and Stalin horrible enough already?
Q: Yes there are several. When I decided to check out the Communists active today I watched for several months the YouTube program of the CPUSA, “Good Morning Revolution”. I visited the websites and watched YouTube presentations from several Communist parties.
I was impressed with the CPUSA putting behind the sectarian mistakes of the past and looking to the future. I wish all the other Communist parties well. I give a small amount of money each month to the Socialist Workers Party and the Revolutionary Communist Party of America, but my membership is with the CPUSA.
Check out Good Morning Revolution on YouTube, you may be surprised.
QEII: You can address me however you like.
I am not aware of any Fascist songs, but my favorite Capitalist somg is, “Money (That’s What I Want)” the Beatles covered it in the early 1960s.
Roman is a common given name in Russia, from which the idiot troll ties me to a banderite, lol. I was born in the US. My parents named me Roman.
No, the last name is not Salute. Salute refers to border protection, which I have done in the US and Russia (Novorossiya).
Border protection doesn’t violate the neutrality act, even if it were to be enforced, but relative anonymity is a decent bulwark against illegal rendition by shadowy thems.
My dad was born in Russia. My mother, in Moldavia, now Moldova. I’ve lived in an ex-Soviet area I won’t identify as a child and Novorossiya as an adult. I returned to the US for family related reasons a little less than two years ago.
I mentioned my song contest entries above, 8:33 am today.
Max has known me for awhile, over a year. We’ve talked plenty. He got me here months ago. He knows I’m anti “Semitic,” like a lot of ordinary Russians and not few Americans. He’s teased me about it, gently, since max is a gentleman, unlike the foul little troll.
Max would be like my favorite Russian grandpa, if Max was actually my grandpa . He’s only a little younger than my real one would be if he were still alive, and reminds me of him in many ways. Max disapproves of Gen Z crudeness in Russian above more than anything. It’s not how a gentleman would speak, to a Jew or anyone else.
My father is from Russia, but not from Lugansk. My grandfather’s parents were from Lugansk. I ended up in Lugansk due to cousins etc. Cossacks I knew there call it Lugansk, like Russians. Banderites and Jews call it Luhansk. Cossacks a hundred years ago maybe called it Luhansk, I’m uneducated about that. If it came to be Luhansk again, it would be due to banderites, not Cossacks.
That’s why I said, and will say again, it will be luhansk over my dead body. The trolls knowledge comes from reading stuff online and jumping to conclusions, which she or he did after I first corrected her or him about the pronunciation. Mine comes from having family and living there, not internet research.
This isn’t @ the troll, although I’m sure she or he will think it is; it’s so vain, it probably thinks this comment is about it.
Gen Z and Reality – with all due respect, I don’t need anyone to stick up for me. I can stock up for myself just fine, LOL
Troll has entries for song contest?
HAPPY MAY DAY, comrades and capitalist shill pigs.
I prefer music from the DPRK. Juche is the way.
Real communists like me do not listen to capitalist fascist music. I used to like the grateful dead, punk rock, and other degenerate western crap. I never listen to any of that any more. Soviet hymns are OK.
I don’t have a single favorite artist or song, although I have some recordings of Kim Jong Un, a truly underappreciated singer, singing wonderfully.
If memory serves correctly,there’s a capitalist song …I want it all, I want it now. There’s also can’t get enough, and other crap like that.
Capitalism and fascism are the same thing, essentially. I’m not sure what fascist music is, wehrmacht marching songs?
Btw Max you should know if your really from Russia, 2/3 of Russian people would rather be, back in the USSR. “INAGINE” that!
*imagine
You say you want a revolution
Stop trolling Stock.
Stay, Stock. Good boy.
Taran, methodology of polling is highly questionable in modern Russia. But yes, a lot of Russian people have idiotic nostalgia for the USSR. Why?
The USSR was a world superpower. Loss of prestige hurts. I think even President Putin said the USSR falling was a disaster for this reason. It’s not because he’s a communist. He’s clearly not. More like a national conservative in Europe or the US.
Most Russians today were not born, or were children, when there was a USSR. Of the older people who remember the USSR as adults at the time, Max age or older, or slightly younger (Russian lifespan is shorter on average than US), a lot of people discount the bad things from when they were young and only want to remember good things. It’s normal for old people to be nostalgic for their youth, middle ages people for their childhood, and young people to be influenced by what their elders tell them about a time they did not live in.
Add the loss of superpowers status, you get idiot nostalgia.
What else? The way capitalism came to Russia was not ideal. Communist managers just became capitalist owners, giving them a leg up. Communism had distorted social morality, making criminality normal.
Any type of normal business was a crime in the USSR, so many ordinary people – especially entrepreneurs – got a criminal mindset. When business was legalized, there was a lot of criminal activity in otherwise legitimate business, protection rackets, carving up territory gangland style and other things Americans associate more with the gang world than free enterprise.
Russian capitalism today is still rough and tumble compared to the US. It’s a bit like the American Frontier or early industrialization before capitalism became more mature in western countries.
It’s an unfortunate fact in Russia, America, or anywhere else there are many lazy people. They would prefer to live on welfare or like in the USSR, have guaranteed jobs where they don’t have to work hard and can’t be fired. They lack ambition, and may as well be herd animals. They only want to get by, not get ahead. Those are the people who want to be back in the USSR. Although, the Beatles song strikes me as more ironic, but I’m not sure.
Add those factors together to explain moronic USSR fetishism.
As for your North Korea cultist crap that’s even more weird. Even if you’re Korean American, or maybe especially so. I don’t know which one would be worse, if you are or aren’t. Juche seems to me like communism mixed with fascists. In fact, some extreme racists like Atomwafren like Juche because it’s pan nationalist,even though it’s communist and they’re fash.
It’s super weird. Alien planet weird almost. I’ve seen videos of stadia full of people in NK all worshipping Kim in unison, moving together like flash mobs for extended performance. It’s freaky. And has an element of medieval hereditary monarch worship, like Roman emperors or Japanese Shinto, mixed with Marxism Leninism. It’s a really odd mix.
How did you, as (correct me if I’m wrong) American, get into Juche?
Thanks for sharing. Do you want a cookie?
Nuna, I suspect Trotskyist communism is less unpopular than Stalinist communism in the west because 1. Trotsky preached world revolution rather than national communism, indeed that was the main split with Stalin other than sheer struggle for top dog spot
2. Trotskyites have relatively more plausible deniability for the reality of communism in power – they were all “not real” communists. Even the CPUSA supporter says this, but the Trotskyist can say it with a little less obvious hypocrisy, if ever so slightly.
I’m going to guess Trotsky communist ideas aren’t around in countries which already suffered communism because communists in those countries are nostalgic for the “good” old days. And non communists know better.
Roman,
I got into Juche gradually. I started as a standard native American progressive liberal, politically and religiously. Unitarian, Democrat. I only became a communist after rightist trolls in discussions like this called me a communist so many Times I finally looked into it..and gradually did become one.
I found Juche after studying different schools of communism. Juche is the most revolutionary and has the most worker cohesion and solidarity. It is next level communist. It speaks to my heart and soul. I love Juche.
Before you ask: I have too many responsibilities to others where I can’t be replaced, so moving to the DPRK is not an option . Even if it was, we must liberate American workers. If all of us who stand with Juche moved to the dprk, who would raise the consciousness and organize revolutionary American workers in turtle island? I’m where I’m needed, trying to make the land of my people for thousands of years free of capitalist oppression.
Religion: I’m now a nondenominational Satanist. The fact that I’m a communist and satanist like comrade Stock lends an idiot troll child to constantly blabber nonsense about us being one and the same. However, comrade Stock is Church of Satan and CPUSA, I’m nondenominational Satanist and DPRK/Juche supporter, not part of any organization or party, just a wildcat revolutionary communist.
It’s just a middle finger on both hands to capitalist shills or at least started like that .
I’m an atheist, Satan does not exist. He’s a talisman or avatar of our individual power against the white Abrahamic occupiers of Turtle Island (“America”) along with our native traditional beliefs and scientific socialism. It would take alot to show how it all fits together. I’m not sure I can explain it, but it does, totally.
I started as a Unitarian and considered myself a liberal Christian. I’m not liberal anymore, I’m revolutionary against grafted devil white occupiers, the evil Abraham religion “three weeds from the same root,” and their other religion of capitalism.
My current ideas combine Juche, nondenominational Satanism, native American ownership of turtle island (“America,”) native traditional beliefs, expulsion of European colonizers from all occupied lands of the world, revenge colonization of Europe, eventually revenge white genocide for the genocides they perpetrated against everyone else, and eating the rich.
So what do you really want, a cookie?