On April 27, Jill Stein and some members of her campaign team were arrested at a demonstration at Washington University in St.. Louis. See this story.
On April 27, Jill Stein and some members of her campaign team were arrested at a demonstration at Washington University in St.. Louis. See this story.
Is she looking at hard time?
Did she chant death to Jews and death to America? Since she’s a Jew if she chanted death to Jews shouldn’t she lead by example?
What are her views on American hostages being held by Hamas?
Are white nationalists welcome at Gaza solidarity protests? Many of us support Gaza Palestinians and 10,000 more October 7s, just like the commies do. What if we promise to play nice and not kill the commies yet, until after we work together to kill the Jews?
Now we need to see Biden in handcuffs.
OMG I would so squirt!
Biden should be thrown in prison for his actions against America.
Nice Cujo! LOL
* licks chops *
I remember when she was arrested trying to get into the unfair presidential debates. Jill Stein has guts.
Jill Stein isn’t all bad. She can take votes from Quisling Biden.
Jill Stein deserves a medal an and an all expenses paid trip to Moscow, Russia for the medal presentation ceremony.
WILL SHE WRITE HER OWN MEIN KAMPF VERSION ???
COMMIE RED GREENS ON ALL STATE/DC BALLOTS FOR PREZ IN NOV 2024 ???
Red Green was hilarious! I wanted to join the Possum Lodge.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/04/28/gaza-war-campus-protests-arrests/73491973007/
UT STORY
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MORE COPS/ARMY FOLKS AT COMING D/R NATL CONVS THAN DELEGATES ???
https://www.yahoo.com/news/maine-draws-line-sandhills-match-222849091.html
ME V NE — GERRYMANDER RIGGING OF 12 AMDT EC
I was going to vote for trump, but Stein has my vote now.
Me too, since a vote for Stein is a vote for Trump anyway. All my democrat peoples tell me it is every day. They didn’t know I was already voting for Trump.
Regardless of your opinion of the cause, she deserves some respect for being willing to get arrested for it.
Good thing Dr. Stein didn’t chant any of those things @Sabra
How do you know, were you with her the whole time?
Ok class pop quiz
If as an American Jewish woman Jill Stein went to Gaza, Hamas would
1) welcome her with open arms
2) gang rape her
3) gang rape her to death
4) gang rape her and then keep her as a hostage
Probably either 1 through 3 or 1, 2 and 4.
David – I’m going to guess you’re right, she is probably not hypocritical enough to personally chant death to Jews and death to Americans, but why is she in solidarity with people who do chant those slogans? In fact so much in solidarity with them that she goes to jail on their behalf?
Hamas is still holding, torturing and repeatedly raping hostages, including American citizens, RIGHT NOW. How about some solidarity with them, rather than the people making excuses for, celebrating, and/or demanding more October 7s? Which was an actual war crime, unlike Israel’s far too measured response.
There are many Jewish people in Israel who are opposed to the genocide against Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank. There are thousands of Israelis protesting Netanyahu in the streets in Israel. They are equally opposed to Hamas and the Netanyahu government policy. Netanyahu is keeping the war going to put off his government falling and his own incarceration in prison.
2YT4U would be treated much better in Israel, by people he or she wants to actually genocide, than Jill Stein would be in any place controlled by Hamas, which she went to jail for protesting in solidarity with.
My grandparents were kicked out of Muslim countries for being Jewish. There are as many Israeli Jews whose ancestry is from the Jewish diaspora in majority Muslim nations, where they got kicked out after Israel became a country, as there are from majority Christian countries, where these so called Christians tried to kill them off (not exactly what Jesus taught, but never mind). Most Israelis today were born in Israel. We are not “colonizers.”
There’s no “genocide” in Gaza. There are unfortunate deaths in war. It happens in every single war anywhere ever. The war was started by Hamas. Eliminating Hamas is the only option.
Genocide is what Hamas and their supporters want. They say it openly – from the river to the sea. They do as much of it as they can given their available means. Ceasefire with Hamas would mean future October 7s and worse. Ceasefire would begin with hostage release.
Yes, Israelis demonstrate against Netanyahu. We have the right to do that, including Arab and Muslim Israelis. There are no more Jews in majority Muslim nations, not by choice. People in majority Muslim countries who protest against their government get thrown in dungeons, tortured, raped, and executed.
A couple of weeks before the attack by Hamas two hundred fanatical Jewish people invaded the mosque on the temple mount and ransacked the place. The rioters started fires, broke things, and brought animals they tried to sacrifice in the mosque. In the West Bank Palestinians have been murdered by the Israeli Army for the crime of tending their own olive trees. Israeli settlers have never stopped creating new settlements on Palestinian land in violation of Israeli law.
It is like the white people in 1800s America who (with the approval of many American government officials) ignored the Treaties of the American government with the Indians and took Indian land and Indian lives. The Israeli version of Manifest Destiny is just as horrific and wrong as the American version.
Mr. Stock,
Additionally, Netanyahu is not a dictator. He’s head of a coalition government which includes people who believe he is guilty of corruption and belongs in prison. Ceasefire with Hamas would just let them retrench and rebuild.
Compare the number of deaths on October 7, compared to the population of Israel, made it more than ten times worse than 9/11 in the US, and that’s just deaths – it doesn’t count gang rapes, killing children in front of parents, cooking babies to death, hostages and more. How would the US react if all that happened on 9/11 and let’s say 50,000 Americans were killed that day?
We know how the US government reacted to what actually happened on 9/11, which was horrific but much less so than 10/7 in terms of population.
Vandalism in no way comes close to justifying 10/7.
There are a lot of horrific things going on all over the world every day of every week month and year. Unfortunate civilian casualties in a war started by the other side are very far down the list of things to protest about.
Sabra: I live in an appointment complex with 14 buildings and a total of 186 units. If my friends and I go to a nearby neighborhood and murder several people then kidnap and rape them the police should follow me to my apartment and do what is necessary to arrest me and my gang and free my hostages. My apartment building has 4 units so it would be understandable if the police had to remove the people living in the 3 units around me to get to me. What would be unreasonable is if the police demolished all the buildings in my apartment complex of 14 buildings killing many innocent people and making the rest homeless. That is what Netanyahu is doing in Gaza.
Not every Palestinian is Hamas, but Netanyahu is doing a good job recruiting new Hamas members who otherwise would have never considered the idea.
There’s no rational comparison of manifest destiny and the “Israeli version,” whatever that is. Arab and Muslim Israelis vote in elections, serve in government and the military, and are a legally equal minority with all the civil rights of other Israelis (they are a little over 20% of our population).
Arabs in the West Bank and Gaza, who choose not to be part of Israel, have a lot less rights than Israelis. But not due to Israel, but rather to the Palestinian Authority and Hamas dictatorships they live under, just like the dictatorships throughout the Muslim world.
In fact, Arab and Muslim Israelis have more rights than Arabs and Muslims in any country where they are a majority.
It’s not even close to anything like the actual genocide of Native Americans in the 19th century. A far more valid comparison to that would be the treatment of Jews in Europe, Asia and Africa, particularly in the 20th century. Israel being a country is the result of that, not the cause. Israel has to do what it must to survive, because quite obviously the world is full of people for whom the holocaust and Oct 7 are just unfinished business.
Sabra: I am not justifying 10/7.I am giving a small example of the suffering of the Palestinian people that have gone on for 75 years.
Hamas should pay for 10/7. But not every Palestinian is Hamas. Just like not every Israeli supports Likud.
Your building analogy is faulty because Gaza is not an apartment complex. Israel is doing exactly what you say the police should do. There is no less violent way to get to Hamas, who use their own civilians as human shields in every way possible.
There’s plenty of room to disagree about the conduct of the war. But the fact that Israel defending itself is the cause that has more Americans protesting – while their own citizens are among the hostages – is crazy and solely due to hatred of Jews.
There are much more deadly wars going on all over the world. All the time. All these wars have many civilians dying. It’s what happens in war.
Meanwhile, you have Americans who have never been anywhere near Israel chanting for a new Holocaust of Jews – actual genocide – and some also Death to America.
Try chanting Death to Hamas in Gaza. I mean actually in Gaza, go there and try chanting Death to Hamas. See what happens.
When Trump returns we’re deporting people like Stock to Mexico for promoting White genocide and worshipping the devil.
The suffering of Palestinians in the past 75 years has been vastly exaggerated by people who hate Jews. In fact, Palestinians have suffered much more from other Palestinians and Arabs than they have from Israelis.
And Jews have suffered a lot more in the past 75 years (much less the preceding 75) than Palestinians have. I mentioned my grandparents who were kicked out of majority Muslim countries for being Jewish, like every other Jew then living in every majority Muslim country at that time. Nothing close to that happened to Palestinians, ever.
Now, those of us who live in Israel because those counties kicked our grandparents out are being called colonizers and being accused of genocide because an actual genocide drove Jews out of Euqrope – by people who actually and openly call for our genocide, and not just rhetorically – see Oct 7.
Sabra: My intention is to explain that not every Jewish person is a Zionist and not every Israeli supports Netanyahu’s genocide in Gaza and the West Bank. And those Jewish people of the Diaspora and those inside Israel who protest are not traitors to their faith or their nation. I made my thinking clear. I will not comment on this thread further.
Of course not all Israelis are Likud. We have a multiparty system. I’m not Likud myself.
And of course not all people in Gaza are Hamas. They just live under a Hamas dictatorship and get used as human shields by Hamas.
Stock makes me want to vomit.
Not every Jewish person is a Zionist, but Zionist just means people who think Israel has a right to exist. I’ve already explained why calling a war of self defense against Hamas genocide is ridiculous.
I never said anyone protesting in Israel is a traitor. I’ve done plenty of protesting in Israel. It’s a right we have, unlike our neighbors, and boy do we use it.
My comment was about Americans protesting alongside other Americans who chant Death to Israel, Death to Jews, and Death to America… in America. They are protesting on behalf of Hamas, which practices genocide while accusing those who defend against it.
Now I might surprise you and agree with Stop Gain of Functions Fascism. Jill Stein deserves some respect for being willing to go to jail for her cause. And she also deserves disrespect for what that cause is. Her cause is not just.
Stein deserves to die, like all Jews everywhere and all us Americans, but in the meantime she deserves props for going to jail on behalf of Hamas.
Is she queer? If so, does anyone know whether she has a partner? I’m looking forward to being tortured and gang raped to death by Hamas, but until then, I’m looking for a queer lesbian partner that shares my dedication to the Hamas cause.
Queers for Hamas raises some excellent points. I hope you find the queer lesbian partner you seek, perhaps at a pro Hamas rally, until such happy time as Hamas Intifada comes to America and they can do to all of us what they did to the genocidal colonizers in occupied Palestine on October 7th.
Death to Jews! DEATH TO ISRAEL! DEATH TO AMERICA!
~An American Jew
HOW MANY KILLER TRIBAL MONARCHS/OLIGARCHS IN THE MIDDLE EAST IN ALL RECORDED HISTORY
— APPROX 3,000 BC TO NOW ???
NOW ARAB TRIBE VS JEWISH TRIBE ???
WHERE WAS/IS OLDE GARDEN OF EDEN — OF OLDE ADAM AND EVE ???
DID OLDE CAIN TRIBE SURVIVE ON TOP OF MT EVEREST DURING OLDE NOAH BOAT SUPER-FLOOD ???
– IE – FOUR TRIBES — NOT THREE – ON NOAH BOAT ???
FAILURE OF ISRAEL REGIME TO IMPOSE PR/APPV/TOTSOP ON WEST BANK/GAZA AFTER 1967 WAR–
ESP AFTER 2006.
Tribal monarchs and oligarchs have been ubiquitous throughout the world and history. Tyranny in the middle East persists to this day, ironically except in Israel, but it’s not like there’s a shortage of it in other parts of Africa, Asia, and Latin America. Europe has certainly seen its share, and still does in its Eastern parts.
Today’s mideast politics is significantly more complex than Arab vs Jew. To take one obvious example, the war in Syria is not about Jews at all, since there are no longer any Jews in Syria. Likewise, in Yemen. Why aren’t Americans out in the streets protesting about wars in Syria and Yemen, any of the wars in Africa, etc, etc?
Much of the conflict in the middle east is due to Iran, which is of course predominantly Persian, not Arab. However, they have many client Arab militias. But it’s not like there’s any shortage of Arab on Arab violence and oppression even not counting Persian interference.
Arabs have done a lot worse to other Arabs than Jews have ever even come close to doing to Arabs, and still do. They just don’t complain about it nearly as much to non Arabs.
Current scientific research indicates that what is today southern Iraq experienced a flood around the timeframe that would fall in line with Genesis accounts of the Garden of Eden and Noah’s Ark. It’s very unlikely that anyone escaped from there to what would be the area around Nepal today.
Is your caps lock key broken, and failure of the Israeli government to impose what after 1967 and 2006?
The word genocide should not be abused in a grotesque manner. It means killing off an ethnicity.
Examples:
Turkey attempted genocide against Armenian people over a hundred years ago, and succeeds in killing millions.
Germany attempted genocide of Jews and Roma (“gypsies,” which is a slur) in the 1940s and succeeded in killing millions of people.
Millions of native Americans and Australians were killed during European colonization.
Over half a million Tutsis were killed by Hutus in Rwanda in the 1990s
You get the idea.
There are millions of Palestinian living in the West Bank and Gaza. If Israel intended genocide, it has the means. It’s true that an estimated 30,000 people have died during the current war against Hamas terror. This is not genocide. No one is intentionally trying to wipe out the millions of Palestinians. On the contrary, Israel drops leaflets telling civilians to get out of bombing targets.
The reason there are as many civilians dying in Gaza as there are is because Hamas intentionally uses them as human shields. They intentionally borrow in tunnels directly below heavily occupied urban neighborhoods and make their headquarters in or under hospitals to INCREASE civilian deaths among their OWN population – strictly for propaganda value.
30,000 civilian deaths is not a large number in a war. The Syrian civil war, for example, has seen orders of magnitude more. You can list wars with more civilian deaths all day.
To claim that there’s a genocide in the West Bank is even more absurd. The population of the West Bank is actually growing at a rate faster than Israel’s. The same was true in Gaza before the Hamas terror attacks on 10/7 and Israel’s response, which has again been much more measured than America’s response to 9/11, an event that killed less than a tenth as many Americans proportional to population and did not result in an ongoing hostage crisis. What kind of genocide sees population growth of the target group at a higher rate than the perpetrators during the genocide?
Real genocide of Palestinians is an idea with infinitesimal support among Israelis, but actual genocide of Jews – which is exactly what Palestine free from the river to the sea means – is a very popular opinion among Palestinians. If they could, they would. If Israel wanted to genocide Palestinians, we could. We have no such desire. We would love to live and let live in peace. They want us dead. There are exceptions, of course, on both sides.
Speaking of ugly things Arabs do to each other, and to Jews:
In 1948, when Israel won its independence from the UK, hundreds of thousands of Palestinians voluntarily fled what became Israel. At the same time, even larger numbers of Jews, including my grandparents, were involuntarily kicked out of every single country ruled by Arabs and Muslims in the world.
The United Nations proposed a partition state for Israel / Palestine – the original two state solution. Despite what is now Jordan being the Palestinian part intended under British rule, Israel accepted this plan, which left all of Jerusalem in Palestinian hands. The only reason a two state solution didn’t happen was that every neighboring country attacked Israel at that point, because nothing short of genocide of Jews would be good enough for them. That’s how we got the 1948 borders – Israel without the West Bank and Gaza.
They did not content themselves with this and attacked from all sides again in 1956, 1967 and 1973. In between, Israelis had to contend with nonstop rocket shelling. 1967 is how we got the West Bank and Gaza, then Golan Heights and the Sinai, which we gave back to Egypt in peacetime – something no other country does.
Meanwhile, as a result of Palestinians voluntarily fleeing in 1948, they have been living in squalid refugee camps around the Arab world. This is solely due to their fellow Arabs caring far more about the propaganda value of these horrible places than about the people forced to live in them. Arab governments have far more than enough resources to give these people a decent place to live and normal job opportunities. They prefer to use them as propaganda fodder.
As a result of 1967, Israel also has squalid places where Palestinians live. They live better there than in Arab countries, but they still suck. Israel would and could give them much better living conditions, except every effort to do so has been combatted by intransigent resistance by the Palestinians themselves, who want to be our enemy instead. We’d rather be friends if they let us.
Israeli Palestinians who did not flee and live within 1948 borders don’t live in squalor. They have the highest standard of living and most civil rights and liberties of any Arabs in the middle east today. They’re over 20 percent of our population. They hold seats in parliament.
Jews in countries ruled by Arabs? Had to go to Israel, like it or not. We’re half of the Israeli Jewish population. For this, we are “European colonizers”. In reality, we were born in Israel and don’t even have any ancestors who ever lived in Europe.
So why do so many Americans, especially on your political left, believe Jews are trying to genocide Palestinians?
It’s because Stalin calculated, after a brief hesitation, that there are more Arabs than Jews in the world, so the USSR took up the Palestinian cause, along with its communist client states and the entire Muslim world. The noncommunist left followed suit, even though Israel is and always has been much more liberal than any Muslim led nation, by far.
And that’s how we get to today’s absurd situation of American idiots marching on behalf of the Hamas cause. Including American Jews, right alongside people who openly espouse death to Jews, Israel, and America. They stand with the actual proponents of genocide. Against themselves. Chant their slogans and wave their flags. They go to jail for their foul genocidal cause. Like Dr. Stein. How unbelievably stupid can educated people be?
She may as well have been marching with the Wehrmacht, Doubtless, she has no clue about this and sincerely believes in her suicidal cause.
But, to put her martyrdom in a less noble perspective, the more precise object of the demonstration she was arrested at was divestment of public institutions from companies which do business with Israel, which is something she hasn’t done with her own personal investments.
So, there must be an element of conscious hypocrisy here, even if it doesn’t rise to the level of acknowledging that she was arrested at a rally FOR, NOT AGAINST genocide. The latter boggles the imagination, particularly since she’d be on the receiving end. The former? Just garden variety good old fashioned upper middle class libtard hypocrisy.
How recently did you check what she invests in?
INDIVIDUALS DOING GENOCIDE ETC – UNDER COMMANDS FROM MONARCHS/OLIGARCHS
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N-O-T ENTIRE NATION-STATES
Mr. Farmer,
Within the past year. Why,have you seen something about her divestment at this late stage in her activist/candidate career from every sort of corporate stock her party claims to oppose? I don’t just mean stocks in general, but specific industries they want to shut down etc. Oil, gas, defense – you name it.
I just found more about it to refresh my memory, and for anyone else who is actually curious about the hypocrisy:
https://socraticgadfly.blogspot.com/2023/11/does-green-party-two-time-retread-jill.html?m=1
For anyone too lazy to click on the link, but still mildly curious: tobacco, oil, and, yes, defense stocks are specifically referred to.
For anyone who does take the time to peruse the link: please ignore the author’s general ignorance about matters of Israel and Palestine, including endorsement of the ridiculous and offensive notion that Israel is genociding Palestinians, and just focus on the part about Dr. Stein’s rank hypocrisy when it comes to her personal investments vs institutional investments which she went to jail protesting.
If I had a time machine, I might go picket her home or public appearances, and maybe her office if she still actively practices medicine. This supposes that, given a time machine, I would have all the time in the world.
Also, in case anyone is confused; I personally have no issue with any of those stocks or investing in them, and I support Israel in its conflict with actually genocidal terrorist scum. It’s the Greens and Dr. Stein who claim to have a problem with them, yet she invests in exactly what she goes to jail protesting other people investing in.
The charge here is hypocrisy, not any violation of the law. Nothing to send her to jail for – just picket her as she does others. I wonder if she’d call the police on anyone who would picket her over her “genocidal” investments.
Oof. Quite a dilemma.
Hello, 911? I’d like to report a trespasser on my lawn. Yes ma’am, it’s a person in a keffiyeh, you know one of those Palestinian head scarf things so you can’t see their face holding up some kind of anti Jewish sign about my defense stocks. Yes, this is Dr. Karen, I mean Jill, Stein. Sorry, I was rehearsing for a play. Yes, that’s Jill, not Karen. My address is
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Jill Stein is right. Dump Israel. America needs cheap oil and gas. Not more Jew wars like what is going on in Ukraine and Israel. Israel brought this war on itself. Its so funny because the college kids protesting were educated to be anti-racism, but they are attacking Israel now. Why? because Israel is a racist apartheid country treating Palestinians like dog poop. I notice Trump today rearing his pro-Zionist ass kissing head making remarks.
Queers for Hamas, thanks for asking. Jill Stein is not queer. She is married to a male and has two children. I’ll join American Jew for Palestine I’m wishing you happy hunting and great success in finding a compatible lesbian queer partner at a pro Hamas rally.
Bono is obviously a Jew-hater. For anyone who is not a Jew hater, let’s address his or her points, such as they are:
America needs cheap oil and gas. Sure, and you might also want to consider energy independence. Your country has plenty of cheap fuel resources, domestically extracted.
Jew wars in Ukraine. That’s too ridiculous to waste time on. Nobody other than a genocidal Jew hater would prattle such nonsense. Moving on.
Jew wars in Israel. We didn’t start this war, but we’ll finish it.
Israel brought this war on itself. By defending against actually genocidal terrorists?
College kids were educated to be antiracist…racism is besides the point. Jews and Arabs are nearly identical racially.
Israel is a racist apartheid country treating Palestinians like dog poop…baloney. As I explained yesterday, Palestinians are over 20% of Israel’s population, have every civil right and liberty we Jews have in Israel, and more than Arabs have in any Muslim run nation , including Palestinian Authority and Gaza if you want to count those. They vote and serve in parliament, unlike South African blacks under apartheid. Their standard of living is higher than that of Arabs in any country run by Arabs.
If on the other hand you mean Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza, they could have all that if they wanted to join Israel and live under our laws. Of course, they don’t want that. They don’t want a two state solution either, which was something they rejected way back in 1948. They want a genocide of all Jews, inside and outside Israel. Nothing less will satisfy them.
Of course, I don’t mean every Palestinian. I do mean a majority of Palestinians and their leadership, which abuses them far worse than Israel does. Most Palestinians are not at fault for having such abhorrent views. There are no civil liberties under their leadership, unlike in Israel, and they get bombarded with relentless genocidal Jew hating propaganda from the cradle to the grave. Few of them realize that the conditions Palestine live in in the West Bank. Gaza, and neighboring nations are the fault of their Arab rulers, not Israel.
There are, of course, Israelis who do favor an actual apartheid or genocide against Palestinians. Their numbers are growing, but still tiny. They are sick, demented people and I pray to G-d they never come to power in our country. Presently they are about as much of a political power in our country as costume wearing Nazis are in yours.
Noticed Trump making remarks..I understand former and perhaps future President Trump loves attention, and a lot of people love giving it to him. So long as the interest is mutual I won’t kink shame.
Ted, thank you for the tidbit about Dr. Stein’s personal hypocrisy regarding investments. That’s the icing on the cake here.
Whenever Jews are brought under criticism its called Jew hating by them as a defense shield and to make dumb Gnetiles feel guilty. Then they drag out their crying towels about the Holocaust during WW2, but don’t address their Holocaust against the Palestinian people. Jews think they are special and deserve special treatment. NOT! Jews don’t think they should be critcized and are perfect. NOT! Jews are paranoid all the time. Yes!!!
What holocaust against Palestinian people? The numbers of Palestinians are growing. In fact, the numbers of Palestinians both on Israel and in the West Bank as well as Gaza, at least until their terrorist attack on 10/7 which killed more than 10x Israelis proportional to population as 9/11 attacks killed Americans..plus ongoing hostages, gang rape, killing children in front of. Their parents etc, …numbers of all those Palestinians are growing faster than Israeli Jews. Some holocaust.
Your Jew hating is obvious because you say stupid things like Jew war in Ukraine. As for feeling guilty about the German holocaust of Jews 80 years ago, there’s no need for you to feel guilty about it. You probably weren’t even born yet. If you were, you were probably a little kid, and or not German. Even in the highly unlikely event you were an adult living in Germany 80 years ago, it’s even less likely you would have been a Nazi decision maker.
We don’t want special treatment. It’s people who hate Jews such as yourself, and useless idiots who fall for such crap, who want to single us out for special treatment, like calling it genocide and holocaust when we defend our country. No other country’s right to defend itself is called such things.
Of course we can be criticized. No one criticizes Jews more than other Jews. If you mean all Jews as a group, that’s called hating Jews. We’re a very diverse and contentious bunch. Only non Jews who hate Jews would “criticize” us all in one fell swoop.
Jewish rates of paranoia and other mental conditions are about the same as other ethnic, religious and cultural groups. If you think we have some sort of hive brain, you don’t live in the mental realm of reality. Do all Americans have a hive mind? Of course not. Jews don’t. Neither do Israelis. Most Israelis are Jews, but over 20% are not. Just slightly over half of Jews, I think, are Israelis.
I’m an Israeli Jew. I was born in Israel. My parents were born in Israel. Their parents were born in Muslim run countries and were kicked out, like all Jews in all Muslim run countries, in 1948, for something they didn’t do. About half of Israeli Jews became Israeli Jews because this happened to our ancestors (or those who are still alive).
The thing they didn’t do which caused them to be kicked out of their countries was win independence for Israel in 1948, from the UK, much like the US did in the 1770s and 80s. It’s true that the German led holocaust of European Jews contributed to our war of independence. That’s not our fault. It’s not your fault either.
Now, Israel exists, like every other country. We have the right to defend ourselves against terrorism, every bit as much as the US or any other country. What your country does about that is your business. We have freedom of expression in Israel, as you do in the US, unlike any country run by Muslims. So, I’m expressing my opinion.
My opinion is that Bobo is a bigot. I’ve supported my opinion with evidence. Bobo has supported his or hers with nothing.
However, I will apologize for calling Bobo Bono at first. It was an unintended typo. Sorry about that.
For anyone wondering what the nonsense about Jew wars in Ukraine is about: the president of Ukraine happens to be of Jewish ancestry. I don’t know his religion, if any. Few other people inn the Ukrainian government are Jewish.
It’s not abnormal for a President of a country to be from a minority group. President Obama was half black. President Trump was orange (just kidding, I know it’s a spray tan). President Fujimori of Peru was of Japanese ancestry. Etc.
Beyond that, for why war in Ukraine is “Jewish” you go down the rabbit hole of even more bizarre Jew hating nonsense, but we won’t go there.
Yes, the war in the fake country of “Ukraine” is Jewish. Jews have been at war against the great Russian people for over a thousand years. Jewish propaganda is that the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion were a czarist forgery.
You should read the Protocols for yourself and make up your own mind. Compare them to world events since then. Forgery? I don’t think so.
The European holocaust is another fable. Millions of Jews died from starvation and disease during that time, like tens of millions of other Europeans. Many more Europeans died in a battle to save our ancestral continent from bloody Jewish communist dictatorship and tyranny, or at the hands of the communist scum when and where they won.
Sabra neglects to tell you that Jews were not just kicked out of every Muslim country but every Christian country at some time or another too, all throughout history. Of course,they also got kicked out of Palestine several times, too – Babylonians, Romans, etc. If you were a landlord and held a rental application from a would be tenant who was kicked out everywhere they ever lived, would you be inclined to believe it was all those landlords fault? I doubt it.
Ok, fine, of you insist we’ll go there. Suppose everything Hitler Salute says is true. What’s the final solution to the Jewish problem? I see only two possibilities;
1) Israel has a right to exist. That means we have the right to defend ourselves, like every other country.
2) you would like a Jewish holocaust, even if you don’t believe one happened earlier. In other words you want exactly what Hitler said he wanted in his book My Struggle, to kill all Jews, you just don’t think he actually managed to give it a good shot. If that’s what you believe, own it and admit it.
Jewish communism is a myth. The USSR sided 100% with Arabs against Israel. Stalin purged Jews and came close to a Jewish genocide of his own, which was averted only because the monstrous dictator finally croaked just in the nick of time. Jews were a heavily discriminated against group in the USSR. In fact, a large chunk of the latest Jew hatred spasm going on now in the US was stirred up by Communist China on tik tok. There’s evidence the Chinese Communist government is behind the pro Hamas protests in America, too.
My apologies, Roman Salute, not Hitler Salute. They look a lot alike, but then so do Jews and Palestinians. Kind of like Americans and Canadians.
Jewish communism, a myth? Marx was a Jew. All communism is Jewish by definition. Most of the commie commissars were Jews. Jews almost universally admired and supported the USSR. Only near the end of the USSR era did any significant numbers of Jews stop supporting the USSR and Soviet Empire.
Sure, if by near the end you mean the 1940s and 50s. If Marxism is Jewish by definition, so is psychiatry, Christianity, and a lot of things that aren’t Jewish. A Jewish founder doesn’t make something inherently Jewish. The US even had some Jewish founders. Wherever you go, there we are.
Sure, some gulag administrators were Jews. So were a disproportionately high number of inmates in those same gulags.
The Jewish war against Russian people consisted of Russians conducting pogroms – riots, mass beatings, murders – against Jews, and Jews having no choice but to take the beatdowns. Something else that contributed to the creation of Israel.
Your apology for the Hitler Salute is accepted. They do sort of look alike, but the Roman Salute existed thousands of years before national socialism was a gleam in Hitler’s eye.
My screen name wasn’t derived from the hand salute. My given name actually is Roman. Salute refers to military defense duty and the code of border defenders. Unfortunately, I’ve run out of time to address your latest points, at least for today.
The biggest mistake the allies did after WW2 was to let the vermin out of the concentration camps. Big mistake. They were like rats and infested the world with their beliefs and disease. I would go to Auschwich and roll in the dirt laughing and giggling at what happened there. Screw that making Gentiles feel guilty about their past. I would go to the past southern plantations and get pom poms and jump up and down and giggle about what happened in those those fields. I am a veteran and retired federal office and I will say and proudly admit HITLER WAS RIGHT! Being racist and a bigot is coming back into style again kike Sabra.
Ironically, there is one and only one-way Palestinians could actually get exactly what they want, Palestine free of Jews from the river to the sea. It will sound deceptively easy, but I’m not a traitor to Israel for posting it, since there is absolutely zero chance Palestinians will go this route, even as a strategic maneuver.
All they would have to do is ask for Judea and Samaria (west bank of the Jordan River) and Gaza to be annexed as part of Israel, which would make them eligible to vote in our elections.
Right now, Israeli Arabs are a little over 20% of our population. With the addition of the Arabs in the west bank and Gaza they could outvote us, and then do what they want – turn Israel into Palestine and push us into the Mediterranean sea.
Israelis are committed to being both a Jewish and democratic nation to the core of our being. Such a proposal would put the two at odds. The Palestinians wouldn’t even have to kill us – we would argue ourselves to death . Self genocide!
Sounds sweet, right, Hamas supporters?
So, why haven’t the Palestinians made that offer? Why will they never, ever, in a hundred billion years make such an offer? If you have a brain in your head that actually works, try to solve this puzzle.
I remember in 1948 when Israel first took the land from the Palestinians and ran them out chasing them down the streets naked and was laughing at them. That’s the true face of ZIONISM. Of course, the Zionists and Jews never do wrong. Oh no! They are Gods rightful creatures with halos and wings. NOT!
Cool, bobo doesn’t deny hating Jews anymore. No problem. One liar outed. I thought I was being “paranoid” about Mr or Ms Bobo being a Jew hater. Ok.
Listen, I’m not going to kink shame. Whatever weird stuff you want to do in Poland or on former American slave plantations doesn’t concern me. I don’t want to watch the video, but someone else might. None of my business.
I’m also not into the whole fashion thing. I like plain or camo olive drab, like the IDF uniform which I wear when called upon. As a fellow veteran, albeit in different countries, thank you for your service.
If you want to go to war, well we’ll take you to war. That hasn’t worked well for anyone who took Israel to war yet. May the best country win.
If you want to live in peace, you can rename the US Hitlerland and make Americans wear Hitler cheerleader uniforms and have sex with polish people in the dirt or whatever you said your turn on is, we couldn’t care less until you come to Israel with war. We’re not going to holocaust you, but we will defend our country. Don’t tread on us, you won’t like it, I promise. Or f around and find out.
As for American Jews, they’re welcome to come here any time , at least until you won’t let them leave. If that ever happens. At which point, with great regrets for their poor decision making leading up to it, for any who are left there – you made your choice. What happens then is not our business. Some Israelis don’t agree, but there really won’t be anything they can do anyway, so all I can say is –
American Jews, make Aliyah, come to Israel and stay, the more the merrier. It’s not as crowded as you think and you’ll love the weather. There are plenty of us who speak English already, and if you don’t know Hebrew, you’ll pick it up in no time flat. The economy is awesome too.
You’re welcome.
Big daddy, you have a faulty memory because that didn’t happen. But if you can remember 1948 at all, G-d bless you and may you live to at least 100. That’s not much longer, so make it 120, ok?
Zionism just means Israel has a right to exist. Nothing more or less. Palestinians who left Israel in 1948 did so willingly,nobody kicked them out. They listened to Palestinian leaders who lied about what would happen to them if they stayed.
Some Palestinians didn’t listen to them and stayed. They now enjoy the most civil rights and liberties and best standard of living of Arabs anywhere in the middle east, vote in our elections, sit in our parliament etc.
On the other hand, Jews throughout the rest of the middle east did get kicked out and had to go to Israel. That included all four of my grandparents and about half of us Israeli Jews got to be Israeli Jews that way.
I don’t know why Jew Haters keep insisting that anyone believes Jews are perfect or do no wrong. Nobody believes this, including Jews . It would be ridiculous to think all Jews, Arabs, Americans, Polish people, or anyone else is all this or all that. We’re all individuals with a mix of good and bad traits. Jews do just as much wrong as anyone else.
This is getting repetitive, so I won’t keep addressing the same exact points over and over. I’ll just direct people to scroll up and read if it’s something I already covered.
Awww. So sad. It couldn’t have happened to a more jewish antisemite.
Antisemitism is a misnomer. Palestinians are just as Semitic as we are. If you didn’t read prior comments, I’m an Israeli Jew.
Fwiw, I don’t think Dr. Stein is actually a self hating Jew. At least not consciously. She’s a hypocrite with defense stock investments which she got arrested for other people having.
As for her Hamas sympathies, she either fell for the ubiquitous pro Hamas propaganda (especially on the American left) or she is just more into the accolades she gets from fellow American leftists for her idiotically misdirected activism than actually using her brain. She made it through med school, so she has one. Now we just need to see whether it will kick into gear when it comes to Israel.
Correction, got arrested for protesting other people having is what I meant to write.
Warning: Nuna is a troll. Don’t say I didn’t warn you later.
Warning: Roman Salute is a banderite or federal agent who pretends to have lived in Russia and fought on the right side of the war in Donbass. Don’t say I didn’t warn you.
And no Sabra. “Palestinians” are not an actual people. They are Arabs (not semitic) who were pumped into the region to occupy Israel the land and replace the Jews. Just like “Ukrainians” are Russians reds who were pumped into that region to occupy eastern Poland and Hungary and western Russia and to replace the Cossacks, Rusyn/Ruthenians, Russian whites, Poles, Hungarians, etc.
They’re pumped into the region? How, from where and by whom? This is one I have not heard before. They look and sound like other Arabs to me. I could put on Arab clothes and pass for an Arab until I open my mouth and say something. I lived around them all my life. But I’m always open to learn something new.
What are Russian reds and whites? You mean during the civil war they had around 1917-24 or so?
Santa: I can’t say I trust you, but I enjoy reading some of what you wrote. I was raised all my life that Jews are our mortal and ancestral enemy, but some of you are funny comedians, I have to give you that.
Sorry, sabra. One of you Jews is responsible for Google, and Google is responsible for me mangling your name. I know you don’t believe in Grandpa Frost since you don’t believe in Jesus.
Palestinians are just Arabs, not any distinct people with more than a century of history to their name. And Arabs are not a Semitic people. The Ottoman authorities, and after them surrounding muslim nations, flooded Israel with Arabs who were designated as “Palestinians” in order to pretend they had some claim to the land. Some came by choice, most were forcibly relocated their. It is very much the same situation as “Ukraine” under Lenin.
Russian reds: fake Russians, traitors, bolsheviks, soviets
Russian whites: real Russians, monarchists and liberal-democrats, Russian exiles and resistance
I’m pretty sure at least two of us were responsible for Google, but I’d have to Google it to really be sure.
I agree, Palestinians are just Arabs, of course. Arabs not being Semitic is what’s new. If they’re not Semitic, what are they?
The rest of what you said about Palestinian Arabs, I already know.
Reds and whites – you could have just said I guessed correctly.
I’m not very up on Ukraine business. We have our own war here in Israel . My grandparents came from Syria and Iran.
I believe in Santa and Jesus equally. The messiah, unlike the postman, will only come once.
I do believe there was probably a meshuga rabbi named Yeshua in Roman Palestine who has devoted followers and maybe claimed to be Meshiach. I’m sorry if I’m offending you by denying his divinity. For what it’s worth, I’m a fan of his alleged teachings as relayed by the Christian Testament.
Well, to be fair, I guess it depends on what you mean by Semitic. If you take all descendants of Noah’s son Shem to be Semitic, then I guess all Ishmaelites (including Arabs) are also Semites. But traditionally Semitic is used to indicate peoples who spoke and wrote Hebrew or a descended language (even Amharic and Ge’ez are Hebrew-descended, meaning that you could argue at least some Ethiopians are Semitic).
Arabic is not a Semitic, i.e. Hebrew-descended language; hence Arabs are not traditionally referred to as a semitic people.
I’ve never heard of this tradition. Shem is how I always understood Semite. I’ve never heard Arabs called anything except Semitic. I’ve come across Jew haters who claim we are not Semitic but Turko Mongolian or something, which is crap. It was disproved with genetic tests.
My grandfather died in a concentration camp. He fell out of the guard tower.
Sorry for your loss. May G-d have mercy on his soul. G-d keep you and be well.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/04/29/jill-stein-arrested-at-campus-protest/73498328007/?tbref=hp
UT STORY ABOUT STEIN ARREST
Are you excited? Calm down! She’s fine! It’s ok! LOL
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic_people
WHO GOT ON/OFF NOAH’S BOAT FIRST/LAST ???
https://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia
Fash have their own Wikipedia? Who knew?
Commies have their own metapedia, which unfortunately everyone already knows.
@ not the real Jill Stein Apr 29 at 7;09 am LOL
Maybe she wouldn’t be a hypocrite and would not call the law if someone protested on her lawn about her defense stocks