Epic Battle in Missouri Legislature Over Bill to Make it More Difficult to Pass Initiatives

The Missouri legislature adjourns Friday night, May 17. It is still difficult to know if the bills to make it more difficult for initiatives to take effect will pass. Democratic legislators have engaged in a 41-hour filibuster to stop the bill. See this story.


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Epic Battle in Missouri Legislature Over Bill to Make it More Difficult to Pass Initiatives — 20 Comments

  1. Alternatively, abolish the legislature and have some actually democracy by replacing it with a system of legislation through ballot initiatives…

  2. Whatever you say, Sorelian statist. The only thing further right than direct democracy is anarchy.

  3. Direct democracy is far left Bolshevism. Two wolves and a sheep voting on dinner. Over time, people learn that they can vote themselves other people’s money. Bolshevism is literally authoritarianism. It brings everyone down to the lowest common denominator and puts no limits on popular prejudices and panics. Mob rule and lynch law, literally. A lynch mob is the purest form of democracy.

  4. Forcing everyone to vote on legislation is a bad idea for the same reason as forcing everyone to fix their own toilets.

  5. Yes, division of labor is a good thing. Let legislators legislate is exactly correct. Correction on above, Bolshevism is literally majoritarianism, although it’s authoritarian at a minimum as well. Sorel, incidentally, concluded his life as a supporter of Bolshevism. I’m not sure where you got the mistaken impression I’m a fan of his ideas at any stage of his life.

  6. FOR NON-MORONS/TROLLS —-

    N-O-W — AND SINCE LATE 1200S IN OLDE ENGLAND – IN SMD LEGISLATIVE BODIES

    1/2 OR LESS VOTES X 1/2 RIGGED CRACKED / PACKED GERRYMANDER DISTS = 1/4 MINORITY RULE CONTROL – WITH MONARCH BOSSES

    SUPER-WORSE MINORITY RULE EXTREMIST PRIMARY MATH.

    USA CONGRESS / ALL STATE LEGIS / MANY LOCAL GOVTS
    —-
    NOOO PRIMARIES

    EQUAL BALLOT ACCESS – PETITIONS/FILING FEES

    PR — BOTH MAJORITY RULE AND MINORITY REPRESENTATION

    TOTAL VOTES / TOTAL MEMBERS = EQUAL VOTES TO ELECT EACH MEMBER

  7. NON TROLL MORONS CAN LOOK FOR FEDERALIST NO. 10 BY MADISON 1787-1788

    >>> 4-4 RFG = NOOOO 1787 ROTTED EUROPE TYPE MONARCHS/OLIGARCHS IN CONTROL IN ANY STATE.

  8. Let legislators legislate. Eliminate ballot initiatives. Failing that, make them as rare and difficult as possible.

  9. I agree with commie troll nunya. We need to make everyone vote on legislation. We should also make everyone did their own cars and toilets and do their own electrician work etc. Division of labor is sorelian statism.

  10. Did you mean fix their own cars and toilets? And why are you calling Numya a communist troll?

  11. Wow. How does this nunya commie troll think it can get away with plausibly denying being a commie troll after that?!

  12. If its just an initiative for a law, it is sufficient that the legislature retain the power to amend or repeal any initiative.

    However, initiatives for constitutional amendments should always require a super majority of some sort, or some required minimum number of voters, both in the legislature and in the popular vote.

  13. Why should there be any initiatives? We hire legislators to do a job. We have elections if they don’t do their job. Let them do their job.

  14. VOTER PETS FOR CONST AMDTS AND LAWS DUE TO MINORITY RULE GERRYMANDERS FOR ELECTING CURRENT LEGIS BODIES.

    WITH P.R. [TO GET MAJORITY RULE IN LEGIS BODIES] MUCH LESSER NEED FOR VOTER PETS.

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