Democratic National Committee is Thinking About a New Method to Nominate in 2024 for President and Vice-President

Posted on by May 28, 2024

The Democratic National Committee’s Rules & Bylaws Committee will meet on June 4, and will consider a resolution that would bring about a virtual meeting of delegates to the national convention to, choose the presidential and vice-presidential nominees.  The motive is to comply with the Ohio August 7 certification deadline.

Section 3505.10 of the Ohio election law says the ballot shall list the “names of the candidates for president and vice president nominated as such by the national convention of a political party to which delegates and alternates were elected in this state at the next preceding primary election.”  In order for this idea to be legal, the virtual meeting (probably a zoom meeting of several thousand delegates) would be the official Democratic national convention, not the in-person meeting being held in Chicago in late August.

It is puzzling that the Ohio Democratic Party doesn’t file a lawsuit to overturn the early certification deadline.  Such a lawsuit is overwhelmingly likely to win.  The Democratic Party’s idea robs the actual meeting of much its dignity and importance.

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Democratic National Committee is Thinking About a New Method to Nominate in 2024 for President and Vice-President — 50 Comments

  1. The might benefit more from the propaganda value of “losing” presidential ballot access.

    Does anything in Ohio law say the convention can’t be virtual? They could go virtual or hybrid, like the LP last time.

  2. Agreed. They would be better off claiming that Republicans are trying to rig the election to change the narrative. They won’t let Biden fall off the ballot, though. It would make the campaign look incompetent and hurt the Democrats down ballot. Sherrod Brown is going to struggle to win reelection as a Democrat Senator. Without Biden voters filing in and voting Democrat down ballot, Brown is probably screwed.

  3. I’ve seen the opposite argument, that it would piss off their voters and drive them to the polls, helping them down ticket, if they have to write Biden in. He won’t win Ohio regardless, but that might help Brown and the rest of them.

  4. Let’s hope Sherrod Brown is screwed, whether Beijing Biden is on the ballot or not. Ho Chi Brown is long overdue for retirement.

  5. RICHARD,

    Why do you believe that such a law suit is “overwhelmingly likely to win”?

    I don’t see it that way.

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  11. @Kelly, maybe, but I doubt many would go if they know they can’t vote in Biden at all. Ohio had 6 qualified write-in candidates in 2020. Biden could have a write-in campaign, but many voters show up not knowing who they want. If Trump is on the ballot, but Biden is not, they may just be lazy and pick Trump. If no one is excited about Biden, taking the time to actually write-in his name may just be too much work for them. XD Sad that we have such uninterested voters, but I can see it.

  12. ATTENTION ALL TROLL MORONS

    PR = PROPORTIONAL REPRESENTATION — IN ALL ELECTION REFORM ITEMS

    PRINT OUT 10 COPIES AND PASTE ON SKULLS, MIRRORS, FRIDGES, ETC.

  14. Organizing a write in campaign is work. It will turn more Democrats out if they have to do that work, because they will be knocking on a lot of doors and advertising in every way possible to get people to do that and teach them how to do it right. It’s a reaction galvanizer.

  20. I have already explained why a lawsuit is overwhelming likely to win, but I will do it again. Too-early petition deadlines for candidates have been struck down in 30 states, and the US Supreme Court has struck them down itself in Williams v Rhodes, Anderson v Celebrezze, and in two summary affirmances, Salera v Tucker and Lendall v Jernigan. When courts hear deadline cases they are to balance the interests of the state versus the interests of the voters. Ohio has no state interest whatsoever in its August 7 deadline. And that deadline does overwhelming harm to voters. KIn addition to all that, in Trump v Anderson the US Supreme Court said the relationship between the presidency and the people of the United States is so essential, it implicitly violates the US Constitution for a “patchwork” in presidential elections, in which some candidates are on in some states but not others.

  24. Richard,

    Do you think other third party candidates are going to attempt to use that ruling to alleviate their ballot access hurdles? For instance, the Green Party and Libertarian Party candidates are going to be on the ballot in the overwhelming majority of the states. Shouldn’t the opinion that was rendered in the Trump v Anderson case make a good case for putting the Libertarian and Green Party candidates on the ballot in all 50 states?

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  27. From what I’m hearing, the Democrat Party is actually ignoring requests to remedy the situation for whatever reason.

  32. If that’s the case, why haven’t they tried that yet ? It takes a while for the cases to work their way through the courts, right? Shouldn’t they have filed those lawsuits already?

  33. Q, no, because it is far too early to know which presidential candidates will be on which ballots. If the plaintiff-party is on the ballot for president in 49 states, the lawsuit is far, far stronger, but it is too early for any party to be in that position. And lawsuits can be settled very quickly. Courts can expedite cases, such as the Michigan state court decision last week on who is a delegate to the Michigan Libertarian Party national convention. That was settled the very day it was filed.

  34. Have you heard the one about the colorblind pilot who got hijacked by a color blind terrorist who wanted to go to Cuba? They ended up in Puerto Rico.

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  38. “The Democratic Party’s idea robs the actual meeting of much its dignity and importance.”
    Aren’t the Democrats always complaining about carbon emissions and what not? Doing the DNC digitally will be putting their money where there mouth is, for once. Now if only COP29 would do the same, and Al Gore would turn off his year round heated swimming pools when he isn’t even at home…

  39. Well, the Libertarians had an in-person convention formally conduct its presidential nomination, and the party chair is immediately telling people to vote for some other party’s nominee.

  41. Other dave, there’s party bylaws, fiduciary duty, and so on. Not that it matters, since they strove to become ungovernable, and at least as far as their own rules, achieved that objective. Even people who buy their whackadoodle ideology would be stupid to vote for them or send them money after that. Why hold a nomination convention when the maximum leader just makes the decisions she wants anyway? Watch what they do, not what they say.

  42. If she wants to support Trump, the honorable thing to do would have been to not run again or resign and go join his party. Libertarians have proven themselves to be not only catastrophically wrong on ideas but an utter failure in self governance. Their actions prove that self governance doesn’t work and that they do not believe anything they claim to stand for.

  43. What are the odds of the LP splitting in two along caucus lines: Mises Caucus and Classical Liberal Caucus?

  44. As long as Mises keeps the ballot line since they are the actual libertarians, I’m fine with that.

  45. If will likely split into multiple parties, not two. See all the socialist parties etc

  46. Fred has it backwards . They’re a GOP MAGA infiltrate and wreck L.P. operation which succeeded, so now Heise can exit politics with mission accomplished.

  47. Then they truly will become irrelevant. The Mises Caucus might get gobbled up by the GOP, or hopefully merge with the CP or AIP but that seems less likely.

  49. Exactly. They are fast becoming completely irrelevant. Probably a good thing in the long run, since they have become a detriment to rather than drivers of the libertarian movement some time ago – I think maybe 2008 or so, maybe even earlier.

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