On May 31, U.S. Senator Joe Manchin of West Virginia announced that he has changed his registration from Democratic to independent. He is not running for re-election this year, nor is he running for anything else.
There are now four independents in the U.S. Senate, the most ever since the beginning of popular elections for U.S. Senators. Oddly, there are no independents in the U.S. House.
Democrats Sanders, Sinema and King are independent in name only. Manchin is the only actual independent. Note how all “independents” came from the Democratic party.
Richard always forgets to point that out.
Manchin’s career in politics, like Sinema’s, is over. They will be spending the rest of their lives making money. So their voting status may be interesting but neither of them will ever be on a ballot again.
He should be a Republican for the last few months. That would really shake up the system.
Yeah, from the timing, something is definitely up: “If he is considering an independent bid for either office, Manchin had until June 1 to change his party affiliation;” SOURCE: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/sen-joe-manchin-leaves-the-democratic-party-and-registers-as-independent/ar-BB1noQ1B
From the WVSOS website, the signature requirement for US Senate this year is only 5862 compared with 7843 for governor. (2018 results: Manchin 290,510, Morrisey 271,113, Rusty Hollen (Libertarian) 24,411.)
Maybe he’s considering being Trump VP. As for Sinema, she is going and has decades of potential political viability left. There is absolutely no way to know how politics or her own views will change over the course of that time. It’s ridiculous to declare she has no conceivable political future for the rest of her life, which given average lifespans is probably at another half century or so, and possibly much longer given plausible developments in life extension over the course of that time.
I’d agree she has no immediate political future unless e.g Trump vp or cabinet. But, if anyone here is confident about what politics will look like in, say, 2050 or 2060, please seek mental health counseling.
Sideman may be interested in governor eventually. Hopefully not because we don’t need more commies.
*Sinema
Hypothesis: The reason there is a Democrat-to-Independent pipeline, is the Democratic Party’s abandonment of socially conservative Democrats.
Supporting argument: Even the Blue Dog Caucus supports abortions, something the original blue dog democrats would never have stood for.
Counter argument: Sanders, Sinema and King all support abortion, gay marriage, gun control, etc. So there was no reason for them to leave the Democratic Party.
Discuss.
It’s a lot of things, ranging from economic insanity to woke political correctness etc. Even some lemmings escape the herd, don’t they?
COMMIE FACTIONS — NOTHING NEW
BAAACK TO LENIN IN RUSSIA 1905
Huh? Manchin is a communist now? I thought he’s like middle of the road.
Sanders and King both vote with the caucus so regularly that they could affiliate formally and no one would blink. Sanders doesn’t do so because of his old radical persona. Both of them also became active in the era a liberal GOP was competitive in New England and an -I by your name was a winner’s move for them.
Sinema has always held herself out as a fiscal conservative, the media and in-party pressure against her for her minimum wage vote was too nasty to reconcile.
Manchin seems to portray himself as a relic of the Democrats platforming as the party of the rural working class. He could probably fit in easily as a Republican but hasn’t played half their narratives and likely does find one or two distasteful.
All Democrats are communists.
George: Marx and Engels wrote in the Communist Manifesto that Communism means the abolition of private property and workers owning the means of production (manufacturing plants, businesses, large farms, etc) I do not know of ANY Democrats who want that. Not even Bernie Sanders or AOC. Democrats, Liberals, and Progressives want to reform but maintain Capitalism. Communists like myself want to end and replace Capitalism. The Democratic Party will never do that.
Stock once again being a lying retard. I’m sure his personas “Dylan” and “Taran” will be commenting soon.
That other Stock needs to stop giving Stocks a bad name.
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This Stock is intelligent, not a communist.
The governing philosophy of the demon rats is fascism, much like their senior partners in the CCP. This is despite them CCP still being nominally communist and the double penetration DP being nominally capitalist but theoretically evolving into communism at a rate gradual enough to boil frogs . The realpolitik is stuck at fascist – government heavily intertwined with leading and manipulating all social institutions outside government but not formally taking them over as under Marxist proletarian dictatorships.
The current CCP and DP mirror Mussolini in other ways – suppression of dissenting speech and opinions, a fetish for drastically remaking society through centralised government force, a redistributive state, bread and circuses for the masses, information flow control, corporate-government collusion, expansionist foreign policy, suppression of other political parties, hostility to local control and independent institutions in any sphere of civic life, disregard for the value of anything long term traditional.
Unsurprisingly, Mussolini and FDR were a mutual admiration society, sharing numerous methods and goals, as far back as the 1930s.
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2024/05/31/democratic-sen-joe-manchin-of-west-virginia-registers-as-independent-citing-partisan-extremism/73921160007/
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SO WHY DID HITLER ATTACK THE STALIN REGIME IN 1941 — IF BOTH REGIMES WERE ALLEGEDLY *FASCIST* ???
STATISM/EMPIRE STUFF IN USA REGIME IN 1890S ONWARD-
TAKEOVER OF HAWAII / SPANISH AMERICAN WAR / BIG NAVY – T R. / PANAMA CANAL / WILSON – MEXICO CIVIL WAR / WW I / ETC / ETC
Hitler attacked Stalin because he wanted real estate that Stalin was in control of for fecund Germans of allegedly Aryan descent (apparently a myth) to take over as family farms for their growing population, known as lebensraum. Ideological differences were quite secondary at best, it was at base a large scale gang turf war, like wars throughout world history.
Stalin was not fascist, although his governing methods were. Fascism leaves ownership of the major means of production and various social institutions outside government but heavily intertwined with and manipulated by government, where as under the Marxist proletarian dictatorship centralized government takes direct control of everything. It’s like fascism on steroids.
Mussolini and FDR had more in common than Hitler and Stalin. But all four were variations of the same theme.
China under Mao wasn’t fascist. It was actually even worse . China under Xi and the incipient Chinese province of Usa under quisling puppet dictator Biden are fascist. Biden is a Xi puppet in the exact same way that Vidkun Quisling was a Hitler puppet dictator.
If there was no common ground among Hitler and Stalin, how did they even have a pact for Hitler to break ? They had plenty of common ground that observers of the two could readily see. Mob families are very similar, but go to war over turf. Much like medieval kings, or Hitler and Stalin. Even the crusades weren’t really about religion – that was just an excuse.
Manifest destiny didn’t start in the 1890s. The statist empire was in evidence at the Whiskey rebellion, along the trail of tears, etc, etc. Hamilton was a major proponent of statist empire. There was even a groundswell to crown a new King George (Washington), which to his credit he turned down (but did suppress the rebellions of people seeking greater self government in what was the American West of the time).