Only Three Statewide Petitions Submitted This Year in Missouri

The Missouri deadline for independent candidate petitions, and petitions to qualify a new party, was July 29.  This year, only three statewide petitions were submitted:  (1) the Better Party, which has no interest in the presidential race; (2) the Green Party; the independent Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. petition.

The first petition has already been found valid.  The Secretary of State will soon check the validity of the other two.  The Libertarian Party is already on the ballot because of its vote totals in 2022.

This will be the first year since 1994 that the Constitution Party is not on the ballot.  It didn’t poll enough votes in either 2020 or 2022 to remain ballot-qualified, and it did not complete a petition this year.


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Only Three Statewide Petitions Submitted This Year in Missouri — 22 Comments

  1. Sooner Kennedy than Trump.

    Nationally the Constitution Party is doing just fine. By which I mean, at least as well/poorly as any of the previous three presidential elections, and significantly better than the two before that.
    The Missouri party can petition to be on the ballot again next election they want. This year’s presidential campaign just did not prioritize ballot access beyond what was necessary for broadcasting their ads. No biggie.
    Meanwhile, the rotten flesh of the Utah and Nevada parties is being cut out for the Greater Glory of God. Trump and his maggots are working hard to purge the GOP of Christians, social conservatives and political libertarians; all of whom have nowhere to turn but the Constitution Party.
    All in all, the Constitution Party is probably the only political party in the US for which things are looking up.

  2. Kennedy is to the left of Harris. Why would they endorse him? And Trump is actually uniting all those folks behind the GOP like never before. There are of course always a tiny number of people for whom it can never be good enough, but in this case the pickings for the constipated are slimmer than ever.

  3. My guess is that a lot of folks who might have held their noses and voted for Biden are not going to do that for Kumquat and will switch to Kennedy this year instead. Randall Terry is campaigning for Trump. It’s gonna be UUUUGE!

  4. Harris is actually doing way better than Biden. Kennedy is quickly becoming irrelevant. Do you think the greatest accomplishments of President Harris will be in her first or second term?

  5. It appears to me that the Constitution Party presidential ticket will be on less ballots than in 2020, and they only got 18 states in 2018.

  6. Corrupt Prosecutor Harris has a 0% chance of getting a second term. Honeymoon phase aside, I’d say she’s pretty unlikely to get a first term either because she – unlike Obama, Trump, Bernie, and even Hillary – has ZERO organic support. She almost lost a statewide election in California and she got 0% of the vote in the 2020 Dem primary

  7. “Kennedy is to the left of Harris.”
    🤣 How’d you figure that?
    https://notthebee.com/article/govtrack-deletes-2019-kamala-harris-rating-where-she-was-ranked-the-farthest-left-senator-in-the-country

    “Why would they endorse him?”
    His stance against medical fascism. His stance against “Palestine”. His stance against the uniparty and its interchangeable candidates.
    The AIP nominated Kennedy. I wouldn’t say it’s an appropriate endorsement for the CP to make, especially when they have someone like Terry running, but it’s certainly less inappropriate than endorsing Trump or Harris.

    “And Trump is actually uniting all those folks behind the GOP like never before.”
    🤣 How’d you figure that? (Deja vu?)
    https://notthebee.com/article/rnc-platforms-porn-star-founder-of-slut-walk-and-a-prayer-to-a-pagan-god-at-the-convention
    https://notthebee.com/article/eric-trump-likens-the-pro-life-fight-to-worrying-about-a-spot-on-the-wall-in-the-basement-while-the-roof-is-leaking
    https://babylonbee.com/news/republican-party-implements-emergency-platform-change-after-seeing-how-close-they-are-to-winning-landslide-victory
    https://notthebee.com/article/um-did-donald-trump-himself-sit-down-and-write-the-gops-2024-platform

    “There are of course always a tiny number of people for whom it can never be good enough”
    That’s a very novel and (self-)deceptive way of describing the life blood of the GOP for the past 170 years.

    “but in this case the pickings for the constipated are slimmer than ever.”
    On the contrary, never before has the Republican party been so far to the left as it is today. As Trump and his sycophants deserts all morals and ethics, the “pickings” are richer than ever before.

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    “It appears to me that the Constitution Party presidential ticket will be on less ballots than in 2020, and they only got 18 states in 2018.”
    Ballot access wasn’t the aim this election cycle, beyond getting campaign ad broadcasting privileges. Assuming the 2028 nominee prioritizes growing ballot access again, the Constitution Party will start appearing on more ballots again.

  8. I meant 18 states in 2020 when Don Blankenship ran for President as the Constitution Party’s candidate.

  9. Kennedy is to the left of Harris based on the sum total of all the policies listed on his campaign website. Supporting medical freedom and Israel doesn’t make him an appropriate candidate for the constitution party when he also support naming ginormous government grow radically even faster across numerous spending, tax and regulations issues. And putting “climate change deniers” in jail, etc, etc.

    Why would someone who was a lifelong Democrat and a candidate for the D presidential nomination a few months ago, who only switched to independent because Biden blocked his path there, be appropriate for the CP? Does Nicole Shanahan strike you as a constitution party type of person?

    Trump is uniting these folks behind the GOP like never before – that’s easy to figure when you interact with so many of them on a daily basis in real life as I do, and keep up with news and discussion in multiple places and formats, and have for decades. Trump has brought many folks back into the GOP from minor right wing parties and from abstinence from voting. These are readily observed facts.

    Of course, there are the perfectionist exceptions. What’s self deceptive is thinking they’re the life’s blood of anything, much less the GOP.

  10. “Kennedy is to the left of Harris based on the sum total of all the policies listed on his campaign website.”
    This is blatantly false. What policies other than possibly his climate agenda, which still is less totalitarian than the “Green New Deal”, does Kennedy have that are further to the left than Harris?

    “Supporting medical freedom and Israel doesn’t make him an appropriate candidate for the constitution party when he also support naming ginormous government grow radically even faster across numerous spending, tax and regulations issues. And putting ‘climate change deniers’ in jail, etc, etc.”
    Indeed. As I said, “I wouldn’t say it’s an appropriate endorsement for the CP to make, especially when they have someone like Terry running, but it’s certainly less inappropriate than endorsing Trump or Harris.”
    All three are supporters of big (brother) government, Harris certainly more so than Kennedy, Trump certainly no less than Kennedy.

    “Why would someone who was a lifelong Democrat and a candidate for the D presidential nomination a few months ago, who only switched to independent because Biden blocked his path there, be appropriate for the CP?”
    He wouldn’t be; merely less inappropriate than anti-libertarian, Fauci endorsing, DeSantis libeling, J6 betraying, log cabin RINO Donald Trump.

    “Does Nicole Shanahan strike you as a constitution party type of person?”
    No, definitely not. Nor does Vance. Nor does Trump. Nor does Harris.

    “Trump is uniting these folks behind the GOP like never before”
    He really isn’t. He is uniting people who are sick and tired of the Democrats behind his ego in the hope they will remain delusional long enough to get him elected again.

    “that’s easy to figure when you interact with so many of them on a daily basis in real life as I do, and keep up with news and discussion in multiple places and formats, and have for decades”
    Ah, so completely anecdotal from inside your echo chamber. Try sticking your head outside one of these election cycles, and consulting some sources that aren’t just mouthpieces for either side of the American uniparty.

    “Trump has brought many folks back into the GOP from minor right wing parties and from abstinence from voting.”
    No. In 2016 and to a lesser extent 2020, Trump got some minor parties to endorse him. That is not the same thing as bringing them from those parties to the GOP. And the only non-voters Trump is bringing in are affluent socialists who don’t have the right connections or victim-privilege to avoid the Democrats taxing away their wealth.

    “These are readily observed facts.”
    No, they are your echo chamber’s twisted delusions with no basis in reality. You cannot even quantify or substantiate any of your wild and bizarre claims. Out here in the real world, it is readily observed that they are complete and utter nonsense.

    “Of course, there are the perfectionist exceptions. What’s self deceptive is thinking they’re the life’s blood of anything, much less the GOP.”
    Christians, conservatives, constitutionalists, classical liberals, patriots have been the life blood of the GOP for the past 170 years. And they are the people whom the GOP is increasingly turning it’s back on, with such increasingly leftist nominations as the Bushes, McCain, Romney and Trump.
    It has gotten to the point that there really is only a negligible difference left between the two faces of the uniparty; just like how in Britain the Tories, Labor and LibDems have become carbon copies of each other. The GOP is destroying itself at an ever increasing rate and you are either keeping your eyes tight shut to that fact, or knowingly and willingly working towards that.

  11. What policies does Kennedy have to the left of Harris?

    https://www.kennedy24.com/policies

    “As President, Kennedy will:

    Install honest, competent leadership throughout the federal bureaucracy, agency by agency

    Root out corruption and replace corporate-friendly agency leaders with reformers and whistleblowers dedicated to the national interest.”

    Who are these “honest, competent” people who are not corporate-friendly? Radical leftist big government socialists.

    “Our food is unhealthy because Big Ag controls the Department of Agriculture. ”

    He’s going to put in people who will use the federal government to aggressively intervene in food production, packaging, marketing, distribution, sales, etc, in order to enforce their ideas about public health from the top down.

    “We have endless wars because military contractors control the Department of Defense, State Department, and intelligence agencies.”

    Who’s he going to put in to control these agencies? Leftist college professors? Antiwar protest leaders? Aging hippies?

    ” The middle class is being decimated because Wall Street controls the Federal Reserve, Treasury, and SEC.”

    Who’s going to control them instead? People who profess belief in central economic planning and are hostile to capitalism?

    “Our environment is a toxic mess because big polluters and extractive industries control the EPA.”

    He’ll put in people who will hamstring business in the name of environmental extremism and alarmism.

    “Healthcare costs and chronic disease run rampant because Big Pharma controls the CDC, FDA, and NIH.”

    So, he’s going to install socialists who are also hostile to western medical science to rule the medical and drug markets by federal diktat.

    “Rampant corruption in Washington has put corporations in charge, enriching the wealthiest as working people have dropped out of the middle class. Official unemployment is low — but most of the new jobs are in the low-pay service sector. Wealth inequality in the country is at a 100-year high. More than 60% of Americans live paycheck-to-paycheck, with no savings for an emergency. Take-home pay after inflation and taxes has fallen 9% since Biden took office.”

    In other words, he aims to mobilize the federal government, under the new people he installs who hate corporations, the military, and the wealthiest people, to radically redistribute income. Of course, they will be honest and competent, so this will work out better than it has in other countries.

    “Under the Biden administration, the price of an average home has risen from $250,000 to around $400,000, and mortgage rates have more than doubled. Rents have followed the trend, putting more and more people on the edge of catastrophe.”

    So, the federal government would impose rent control, heavily intervene in the home sales and mortgage markets, etc.

    “But we can turn it around. Being able to afford a decent life doesn’t mean working more hours. It means higher pay and lower bills.”

    He also wants the federal government heavily involved in what businesses pay employees and in utilities markets.

    “Here is what Kennedy will do to make that a reality:

    Raise the minimum wage to $15, which is the equivalent to its 1967 level.”

    That wouldn’t be economically disruptive at all, and certainly comports with a constitution party view of the role of the federal government, right?

    “Prosecute union-busting corporations so that labor can organize and negotiate fair wages.”

    So, business will be spitroast screwed to death between federal bureaucrats and union thugs.

    “Expand free childcare to millions of families with programs like that pioneered by the state of New Mexico.”

    Someone has to pay for it. If it’s not parents, it’s going to have to be taxpayers. That’s a lot of tax money, especially after businesses and the economy are screwed in all the other ways contemplated herein.

    “Drop housing costs by $1000 per family and make home ownership affordable by backing 3% home mortgages with tax-free bonds.”

    You don’t get something for nothing. Most likely, it would nationalization of home mortgages, and probably a lot of people moving into government housing projects or government subsidized housing.

    “Cut energy prices by restricting natural gas exports.”

    That would not lower energy prices, unless you somehow also mandate production levels and price levels. Let’s not forget the regulations. He would effectively nationalize these companies, if not nationalize them outright, just as with mortgages and perhaps the whole housing industry. How many other market sectors?

    “Support small businesses by redirecting regulatory scrutiny onto large corporations.”

    That doesn’t support small businesses when you also mandate wages, among many other things.

    “Secure the border and bring illegal immigration to a halt, so that undocumented migrants won’t undercut wages.”

    Ok, the constitution party agrees on that one.

    “8. Negotiate trade deals that prevent low-wage countries from competing with American workers in a “race to the bottom.”

    Ok, they would agree with that one too.

    “Rein in military spending and use the resources to fund infrastructure, health care, higher education, child care, and domestic prosperity.”

    They would probably agree with cutting military spending, but not with federally funding all those things. It also seems dubious that cutting the military budget alone would really federally fund everything on this list to any meaningful extent without also raising taxes substantially.

    “Reverse the chronic disease epidemic that is a $3.7 trillion drag on families and the American economy. ”

    Through lots and lots of federal government intervention in many economic sectors.

    “Clean out the corruption in Washington, D.C., which funnels so much of our nation’s wealth to giant corporations and billionaires.”

    The new, honest, socialist bureaucrats will redistribute wealth away from corporations and billionaires. They’ll be honest, so none of it will stick to their hands in the process, and this won’t wreck the economy or anything, right?

    “Establish addiction healing centers on organic farms across the country.”

    More free stuff that nobody has to pay for, like manna from heaven.

    “Make student debt dischargeable in bankruptcy and cut interest rates on student loans to zero.”

    This will also have zero economic consequences?

    “Cut drug costs by half to bring them in line with other nations.”

    Of course, quality, availability, research, production, distribution, etc will not suffer, and taxpayers won’t be on the hook?

    “People always ask, “How are we going to pay for all this?” The answer is simple. First is to end the military adventures and regime-change wars, like the one in Ukraine. The wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, and Libya already cost us over $8 trillion. That’s $90,000 per family of four. That’s enough to pay off all medical debt, all credit card debt, provide free childcare, feed every hungry child, repair our infrastructure, and make college tuition free — with money left over. That’s enough to make social security solvent for another 30 years.”

    The military has functions other than military adventures and regime change wars. In what time frame are we talking about these wars costing 8 trillion? Is he talking about unilaterally disarming the US completely? Notice the socialist wish list of what to do with the money instead of returning it to taxpayers.

    “Second is to end the corruption in Washington, the corporate giveaways, the boondoggles, the bailouts of the too-big-to-fail that leave the little guy at the mercy of the market. Corporations right now are sitting on $8 trillion in cash. Their contribution to tax revenues was 33% in the 1950s — it is 10% today. It’s high time they paid their fair share.”

    So, he wants to massively increase corporate taxes, as well as hammer them with union thugs and regulations. Of course, this will have no negative economic impacts?

    “Other Presidents have tinkered on the edges, but Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. will make the deep changes necessary to put the economy on a sound footing.”

    So, yes, he is to the left of Kamala Harris, unless you think she will also radically transform government and the economy in all these ways.

    We could keep going, but this is too long already as it is.

  12. “it’s certainly less inappropriate than endorsing Trump or Harris.”

    Given his policy views, I think it’s even more inappropriate.

    “All three are supporters of big (brother) government, Harris certainly more so than Kennedy, Trump certainly no less than Kennedy.”

    Trump is clearly for less government overall than Harris, who is still for less government than Kennedy. Your original statement was that it would be more appropriate for them to endorse Kennedy than it would be for them to endorse Trump. I don’t think that holds up under examination.

    “No, definitely not. Nor does Vance. Nor does Trump. Nor does Harris.”

    There are differences between them. I think Vance and Trump are a lot closer to Constitution Party members and supporters in their views and personal or cultural preferences than Harris and Shanahan.

  13. “He really isn’t. He is uniting people who are sick and tired of the Democrats behind his ego in the hope they will remain delusional long enough to get him elected again.”

    There’s nothing delusional about wanting to get rid of the Democrats or rationally calculating that other candidates or parties don’t have a realistic chance of winning the presidency this year.

    But my observation has also been that Trump has generated more enthusiastic support from more conservatives and independents, and more former voters and those who hadn’t voted in a long time, than any other Republican I remember. The Christians, libertarians, and conservatives I know, correspond with or read or watch online or in traditional media, are more apt to support Trump and the GOP than at any time I remember. Surveys and polls I’ve seen generally correspond to this observation.

  14. What I said was “that’s easy to figure when you interact with so many of them on a daily basis in real life as I do, and keep up with news and discussion in multiple places and formats, and have for decades”

    Somehow you twist that into:

    “Ah, so completely anecdotal from inside your echo chamber. Try sticking your head outside one of these election cycles, and consulting some sources that aren’t just mouthpieces for either side of the American uniparty.”

    That’s exactly the opposite of what I said. I know people from many walks of life and political perspectives, and keep up with news and discussions in many places from many different points of view, many far outside either side of the uniparty. I do the exact opposite of existing in an echo chamber.

  15. “. In 2016 and to a lesser extent 2020, Trump got some minor parties to endorse him. That is not the same thing as bringing them from those parties to the GOP. And the only non-voters Trump is bringing in are affluent socialists who don’t have the right connections or victim-privilege to avoid the Democrats taxing away their wealth.”

    Most of the people I know or have corresponded with or read/heard/seen say they switched to voting Republican/Trump since 2016 from minor parties or not voting are not rich. None are socialists.

  16. “No, they are your echo chamber’s twisted delusions with no basis in reality. You cannot even quantify or substantiate any of your wild and bizarre claims. Out here in the real world, it is readily observed that they are complete and utter nonsense.”

    Lol, k. I don’t know what “real” world you live in, but I substantiated all of my claims, none of which are even remotely wild or bizarre. I’m not sure what exactly you want me to quantify or how. Perhaps you can quantify your counterclaims?

  17. “Christians, conservatives, constitutionalists, classical liberals, patriots have been the life blood of the GOP for the past 170 years.”

    I don’t know about 170 years, but yes, in recent decades this has been true.

    “And they are the people whom the GOP is increasingly turning it’s back on, with such increasingly leftist nominations as the Bushes, McCain, Romney and Trump.”

    I disagree with placing Trump in that category, and every possible way I have of gauging the opinions of the folks you mention – ranging from friends, neighbors and family to many various discussion fora to various different broadcasts and opinion columns to surveys and polls – says most of them agree with me, not with you.

  18. “I’m not sure what exactly you want me to quantify or how. Perhaps you can quantify your counterclaims?”

    I already did in my first reply: https://notthebee.com/article/govtrack-deletes-2019-kamala-harris-rating-where-she-was-ranked-the-farthest-left-senator-in-the-country

    You didn’t attempt to do so until here: https://ballot-access.org/2024/07/31/only-three-statewide-petitions-submitted-this-year-in-missouri/#comment-1239802

    For which I have to say, thank you for taking the effort – it’s a long post – but how exactly is any of that – Kennedy’s policies I mean, not your interpretation of them – further left than the Clinton/Obama/Biden/Harris platform?

    “I know people from many walks of life and political perspectives, and keep up with news and discussions in many places from many different points of view, many far outside either side of the uniparty”
    “The Christians, libertarians, and conservatives I know, correspond with or read or watch online or in traditional media,”
    “every possible way I have of gauging the opinions of the folks you mention – ranging from friends, neighbors and family to many various discussion fora to various different broadcasts and opinion columns to surveys and polls – says most of them agree with me, not with you”

    Right back at you. And I reiterate that both the Never-Trump RINOs and the Trump-worshiping RINOs are destroying the GOP.
    All the traditional Republicans I know, lifelong GOP voters, families that have always voted red for generation upon generation, are becoming estranged by the GOP’s leftward shift during the G.H.W. Bush, G.W. Bush and Trump presidencies and the McCain, Romney and Trump candidacies.

    Who is this new leftist GOP pandering to instead? Affluent socialists like Amber Rose, Kanye West, Bruce Jenner, the Kardashian klan, and their posses, etc.

    And who is Trump relying on to carry the 2024 election, people are still so delusional as to think he is any different from, any better than the Bushes, Obama, McCain, the Clintons, Romney, Biden or Harris.

    “Harris, who is still for less government than Kennedy”
    “I think Vance and Trump are a lot closer to Constitution Party members and supporters in their views and personal or cultural preferences than Harris and Shanahan”
    “Trump has generated more enthusiastic support from more conservatives and independents, and more former voters and those who hadn’t voted in a long time, than any other Republican”
    “Surveys and polls I’ve seen generally correspond to this observation”

    I don’t think that holds up under examination.

    “There’s nothing delusional about wanting to get rid of the Democrats or rationally calculating that other candidates or parties don’t have a realistic chance of winning the presidency this year.”

    What is delusional is expecting Trump to be any better based on his behavior during the past 8 years. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting different results.
    Trump has been elected twice, and sworn in once, and he blew it both times to the furthest extent possible. Meanwhile, Kennedy has not yet had the opportunity to blow it even slightly, even once.
    Would I vote for Kennedy? Hell no! Would he be an appropriate endorsement for the Constitution Party? No, certainly not with someone like Terry running. But he would still be less inappropriate than Trump or Harris.

  19. “Who are these ‘honest, competent’ people who are not corporate-friendly? Radical leftist big government socialists.”

    You can’t know what he means by that. He has also gone on record saying he wants to shut down as many three letter agencies as possible.

    “He’s going to put in people who will use the federal government to aggressively intervene in food production, packaging, marketing, distribution, sales, etc, in order to enforce their ideas about public health from the top down.”

    Again, you are adding a very tenuous interpretation to his words. If he simply bans genetically modified crops and certain pesticides, that is far more in line with the Constitution Party than Trump or Harris.

    “Who’s he going to put in to control these agencies? Leftist college professors? Antiwar protest leaders? Aging hippies?”

    Again, he has said he wants to close and slim them down as much as possible. Will he do it? Who knows. Trump promised to drain the swamp and instead appointed more swamp creatures.

    “Who’s going to control them instead? People who profess belief in central economic planning and are hostile to capitalism?”

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Yet again, what he said is actually true. What he will do about it is unclear.

    “He’ll put in people who will hamstring business in the name of environmental extremism and alarmism.”

    And you think Harris won’t?

    “So, he’s going to install socialists who are also hostile to western medical science to rule the medical and drug markets by federal diktat.”

    You don’t know that. What we do know is that Harris and Trump are both Big Pharma stooges who are hostile to medical science and rule the medical and drug markets by diktat.

    “In other words, he aims to mobilize the federal government, under the new people he installs who hate corporations, the military, and the wealthiest people, to radically redistribute income.”

    That’s not what he said.

    “So, the federal government would impose rent control, heavily intervene in the home sales and mortgage markets, etc.”

    And again. Though if government did have any legitimate purpose, it would surely be to protect the free market from price fixing.
    If we didn’t subsidize the building of large office blocks there is no demand for, perhaps people would start building housing.

    “He also wants the federal government heavily involved in what businesses pay employees and in utilities markets.”

    No more than Harris or Trump.

    “That wouldn’t be economically disruptive at all, and certainly comports with a constitution party view of the role of the federal government, right?”

    No less than Harris or Trump.

    “So, business will be spitroast screwed to death between federal bureaucrats and union thugs.”

    Just like under Harris and Trump.

    “Someone has to pay for it. If it’s not parents, it’s going to have to be taxpayers. That’s a lot of tax money, especially after businesses and the economy are screwed in all the other ways contemplated herein.”

    Ditto. And those ways contemplated certainly do more to unscrew the economy than Harris.

    “You don’t get something for nothing. Most likely, it would nationalization of home mortgages, and probably a lot of people moving into government housing projects or government subsidized housing.”

    Ditto. And speaking of people who believe you get something for nothing: both Biden’s advisers and Trump himself have said that the government can just print more money whenever needed, as if they’ve never heard of inflation and devaluation before:
    https://x.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1786272981058220187
    https://x.com/RealSpikeCohen/status/1786610761478897804

    And apparently now Trump wants to create a federal reserve of cryptocurrency, which is certain to lead to hyperinflation at some point in the future.

    “That would not lower energy prices, unless you somehow also mandate production levels and price levels.”

    It did in Russia, Chile, Iran, Norway, Sweden, The Netherlands. If there is no foreign market to sell to, domestic prices drop as long as the supply is steady.

    “That doesn’t support small businesses when you also mandate wages, among many other things.”

    It reduces the corporate pressure to destroy small businesses.

    “It also seems dubious that cutting the military budget alone would really federally fund everything on this list to any meaningful extent without also raising taxes substantially.”

    Oh, I don’t know. Our military budget is ridiculous. And he’s also said he wants to cut other major federal funding, including social security, medicare and medicaid.

    “Through lots and lots of federal government intervention in many economic sectors.”

    Not having unsafe and untested gene-therapy masquerading as safe and tested (mandatory) vaccines, would be a good start. As would banning genetic modification and dangerous pesticides.

    “The new, honest, socialist bureaucrats will redistribute wealth away from corporations and billionaires. They’ll be honest, so none of it will stick to their hands in the process, and this won’t wreck the economy or anything, right?”

    Be optimistic, at least they will be different people from the ones Trump and Biden have been funneling our money to.

    “More free stuff that nobody has to pay for, like manna from heaven.”

    It can pay itself off by making working on the farm part of the treatment.

    “This will also have zero economic consequences?”

    Let’s be real. There should never have been interest on student loans. In fact, there should never have been student loans. Education should never have been allowed to engage in price fixing to make tuition unaffordable.
    We should never have allowed every illiterate retard to go to university so long as they have the correct politics, skin color, bits between their legs, etc.

    “Of course, quality, availability, research, production, distribution, etc will not suffer, and taxpayers won’t be on the hook?”

    Not with proper privatization and the abolition of the US’ ridiculous drug patent legislation, where corporations hold a monopoly on drugs developed through publicly funded research.

    “The military has functions other than military adventures and regime change wars.”

    It could have. It hasn’t since the Vietnam war. It is unlikely to again under Trump or Harris. So fuck it, the whole world will be better of without a US military, since the US has started insisting on always being on the wrong side of any conflict.

    “In what time frame are we talking about these wars costing 8 trillion?”

    Every time Zelensky decides to ring up or drop by.

    “Is he talking about unilaterally disarming the US completely? Notice the socialist wish list of what to do with the money instead of returning it to taxpayers.”

    Disarming the military is a good idea, if only he would spend the money saved on arming and training every American.

    “So, he wants to massively increase corporate taxes, as well as hammer them with union thugs and regulations. Of course, this will have no negative economic impacts?”

    You don’t think that CP stands for Corporatist Party, right? It’s true that corporations have been getting away with tax breaks and loopholes that are never available to small businesses or normal people. And he’s right that it is unfair as well as a superior target for taxation.

    “So, yes, he is to the left of Kamala Harris, unless you think she will also radically transform government and the economy in all these ways.”

    From your cited examples, Kennedy not only right of Harris but right of Trump as well.

    “We could keep going, but this is too long already as it is.”

    Agreed.

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