Pennsylvania Democrats Challenge Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. Petition

Here are the objections to the Pennsylvania petition for Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.

One of the objections is that Kennedy lives in California, not New York, and therefore if he carried California, the electors could not vote for both him and his vice-presidential running mate, who does live in California.  This is utterly frivolous.  In 2000, the Republican nominees for president and vice-president were both registered in Texas, but vice-presidential nominee Dick Cheney simply re-registered to vote in Wyoming (he had homes in both states).

A lawsuit was filed to keep the Texas Republican electors from voting for both Bush and Cheney, but it lost.  See Jones v Bush, 122 F.Supp.2d 713 (n.d. Tx.).  The residency requirement only applies on the day the presidential electors vote, which is in December of the election year.  If Kennedy miraculously carried California in November, there would be time for either Kennedy or Nicole Shanahan to move to another state.  Furthermore the question of Kennedy’s domicile state is contested and one cannot assume he is domiciled in California.

The objectors claim that Kennedy needed 33,042 valid signatures, not 5,000.  The Pennsylvania requirement in the statute does say 33,042 signatures are needed, but ever since 2016 the state has been accepting 5,000 signatures for all statewide office, due to a lawsuit.  It is true the 2016 lawsuit relief was confined to the Libertarian, Green, and Constitution Parties, but it would be a gross violation of Equal Protection if others were not also able to qualify with 5,000 signatures, and the state elections office has long declared that the 5,000-signature requirement applies to any group or candidate.

No one challenged either the Libertarian petition, nor the Green petition.  Thanks to Richard Schwarz for the link.


Comments

Pennsylvania Democrats Challenge Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. Petition — 24 Comments

  1. Such jerks. This is the kind of thing that makes we hope that whatever Republican running wins. I’m still voting for Kennedy, of course.

  2. ALL MORE REASONS TO ABOLISH THE EC AND ALL THE MACHINATIONS WITH IT –

    BALLOT ACCESS
    GERRYMANDERS – ME/NE
    EC VOTES VS POPULAR VOTES
    ETC

  3. AiP Rules Allow Selection of Out of State Electors. If that was a problem with both POTUS ticket a VPOTUS ticket the AIP can select all the elector candidates for AIP from non California’s as elector choices.

    I should know I have been State Chairman for two terms and helped in drafting these party rules.

  4. Richard Winger I was curious why you think there wasn’t a formal decision made today for rfk Jr’s New York case?

  5. Thank you richard

    I could be mistaken but it seems like the successfull eins for.rfk.in to.dnc challenges in hawaii,New Jersey and.all pof.theother few syates took place happened.samè.day or day after
    That is a favorable.ruling???

    I just found it odd that the clear choiceattorneys were smiling as an article affiliated with My suggested they seemed confident I the courtrooms amd then they seemed confident to file a.lawsuit in Pennsylvannia

    I hope this didn’t have anything to do with collusion with the judge and their being private communications prior.to.thr decision

  6. What’s to think about ?
    And 5 days really ?

    So Shady, democRats r so evil

  7. Ai is telling me there is a 30-40% probability of a favorable ruling

    And 50-60% of.unfavorable because she’s a democrat and let.corbett aggressively. Croos.examine rfk jr until.his attprney sarguments.

    And she tried to.slam.the door.on any.unconstituional argumemts from the Kennedy side

    If it gets to appellate court 60-70% chance.of reversal on.the conservatives estimate or 70-80% ona more liberal estimate

    What do you think?

    It’s unfortunate the dems.are engaging in election interference

  8. Hopefully, one of the objections will keep him off. Even if not, it will cost him time and money, ultimately helping to stifle his campaign. Maybe with so many objections in so many states, his attorneys will drop the ball in some of them. Doesn’t Pennsylvania also require the campaign to produce people to defend every challenged signature in a court of law? That might prove difficult for them, or at least extremely expensive.

  9. @Democrats saving america

    This is.unforunate it what thr dems are doing undermining voter choice

    Just pathetic

    You claim Trump is a threat to democracy yet you are no better

    You believe the party should.choose the candidate rather than the people

    Once that excitement where’s off amd people see.that kamala had no specific policy on.her site,no substance,no long form interviews she will be exposed.and if trump goes on to win it won’t be close

    She’s not gonna win.pennsylvannia,michigan,ohio or florida

    Really this is a dirty way to disenfranchise voters

    Your candidate won 0 primaries and gotelected as nominee

    Arpund 2 %in the 2020.

    The American people were watching

    But you don’t care because as much as you oppose agenda 2025 you and your democraticcollleuges would rather see Trump as president than rfk.jr

    Because it will maintain the news.cycle and continue to feed the republican v democrat narrative.

    Im

  10. SB 103 Dobbs (2022) did not ban the AIP from selecting out of state domicilary electors and alternate electors. Therefore the out of state domicilary electors can vote at the College in Sacramento for two candidates from California for POTUS and VPOTUS. Since they would not be in the same state as the Elector. CA AIP relies on the Statement of Domiciary under NRS 41.193 and NRS 41.195 for the New York domicilary.

  11. Did Stock just admit he is insane? That explains trolling under multiple names and personalities.

  12. I didn’t admit anything. My comment was intended as a snappy comeback. But of course you have no sense of humor.

  13. Nobody sane will be voting for anyone except Harris. She will win in a landslide. Believe me now or believe me later.

  14. The Founders of this country must have been quite insane when they wrote the First Amendment and the freedoms of speech and assembly into the Constitution instead of just immediately mandating voters only vote Democrat or Republican without complaint. It also seems that many of our ancestors were so insane, their mass psychosis actually elected quite a few third party candidates to Congress! (immense sarcasm is immense)

    https://history.house.gov/Institution/Party-Divisions/Party-Divisions/

  15. They were insane for other reasons but that’s besides the point. We’re in a different situation now. Imagine if there was a Loyalist Party which could easily win the election then, ask King George to bring the redcoats back and help them round up and kill all rebels and their families and friends. Of course they wouldn’t have wanted the Loyalist Party on the ballots. Or any frivolous parties which couldn’t do anything but help the Loyalist Party win. That would be more like now, except it’s actually much worse now.

  16. Jorgensen and Cohen both lived in South Carolina in 2020 and were on the ballot in all 50 states.

  17. He’s actually the most impressive candidate they’ve had. Too bad he didn’t run for the top spot this year.

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