This is a guest post from Richard Schwarz, who attended the Pennsylvania Commonwealth Court hearing on Tuesday, August 20, on the challenge to Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.’s petition:
The objectors spent most of the hearing arguing that since New York knocked Kennedy off the ballot, PA should do the same for the same reason. The entire transcripts of the New York case were admitted as evidence and the objectors kept harping that RFK was intentionally trying to deceive voters as to his real address.
RFK attorney Paul Rossi argued that NY state has long been Kennedy’s residence, it’s where he’s always been registered to vote, and he was making a good faith effort to provide the proper address to go on the petition papers. He also argued that other states do not require Presidential candidates to provide their home address and making this requirement goes against the constitutions qualifications for running for office. Rossi made good points but the judge refused to allow other states nomination papers into evidence.
As for the following of the 5000 signature requirement instead of election code’s 2% of previous election highest vote getter (currently around 32000), Rossi made good arguments about fair and equal elections and that the 5000 signature requirement which is a temporary number given to the Green, Libertarian, and Constitutional parties should apply to all independents and third parties.
My hunch is that Democratic Commonwealth Court judge Lori Dumas will rule in favor of adhering to the 5000 signature requirement (although Claudia de la Cruz is being challenged on the same point so I expect consistent rulings) but may indeed use the NY case as an excuse to keep RFK off the ballot. I don’t know. She’s described as being “fair” but she seemed particularly harsh on Paul Rossi and I could see he was getting frustrated a couple of times.
I imagine whatever the outcome, it will be appealed.
Sirhan Sirhan, where are you now that we need you?
Fuck Trumptards!
Sirhan Sirhan is exactly where he belongs. Who you have sex with your business, not mine.
“The entire transcripts of the New York case were admitted as evidence […] the judge refused to allow other states nomination papers into evidence.”
No, you don’t say? How very convenient.
“Democratic Commonwealth Court judge Lori Dumas […] ‘s described as being ‘fair’ but she seemed particularly harsh on Paul Rossi.”
I’m shocked – shocked, I tell you! – that a Democratic judge described as being “fair” would be blatantly partisan against an independent candidate without any fear of being held accountable.
No, unfortunately Sirhan Sirhan is not rotting in hell where he belongs. He was originally sentenced to be, but somehow conveniently got his sentence commuted (including the possibility of parole!) under RFK (Sr)’s old buddy, old pal Tricky Dick.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirhan_Sirhan
S.S. WIKI
DOES HE WATCH CONV SHOWS ???
@Nuña,
Nixon was never governor of California. Sirhan’s sentence was commuted after a decision by the California Supreme Court, which applied to all capital cases in California.
Ironically, when Sirhan was granted parole in 2021, RFK, Jr. was in favor. Gavin Newsom reversed the decision of the parole board at the urging of six of RFK, Jr., siblings.
As a former Kennedy supporter now voting for Trump, I understand why this happened. RFK should campaign for Trump.
https://www.infowars.com/posts/confirmed-sources-inside-campaign-have-exclusively-confirmed-to-alex-jones-of-infowars-that-robert-kennedy-jr-is-set-to-formerly-drop-out-of-race-endorse-president-donald-trump-at-an-event-on-frid/
He’s likely out and endorsing Trump.
Stock is endorsing Trump?
For those of you who believe in hell, Sirhan Sirhan will be there soon enough, presumably, although I think your favorite book of fables also tells us that’s not our judgement to make. At the moment he’s an old man doing life who will never be free, and that’s good enough for me. If there’s a god, god’s, karma, etc, that will take care of what happens to his soul, if he has one, after he does. We don’t need to worry about it.
Question: If RFK Jr drops out I will not vote for Trump. The only reason that I was voting for RFK Jr is because Dr. Cornel West or Rachele Fruit will not be on the ballot in Oklahoma. If he does drop out I will need to check out the other Independent candidates. As of this minute I have not even tried to make an effort to do so. If no Independent candidates are in my opinion sufficiently anti Corporation, pro Union, and pro Working Class then I will vote for Kamala Harris.
I am confused. Stock said he was voting Kennedy, then Trump, now Harris? He’s obviously a troll.
I have never said that I was voting for Trump. An impostor said that. If RFK Jr stays in the race then I will vote for him. If RFK Jr dropps out then I will need to vote for someone else. I haven’t checked out the other candidates on the Oklahoma ballot as of today August 21. It all depends on what RFK Jr does.
Typo: drop out not dropp out.
I think the real Stock wants Trump and fake Stock wants a commie. No one in their right mind would vote against Trump.
Troll, you’re not fooling anyone. It’s easy enough to tell which Stock is real.
Stock is such a retard. Remember when he claimed he views all candidates? That was obviously a lie.
Fred: I have no idea what you are referring to. Could you be more specific? Most likely something like that was said by an impostor, or you made it up yourself just now.
Robert Stock
Rfk jr can contend in Oklahoma.
He is well like there
Satanists like Stock lie all the time.
David: If RFK Jr stays in the race then I will definitely vote for him. Trump won all 77 counties in 2016 and 2020. I expect Trump will win every county this time too. RFK Jr has had fundraising events in Oklahoma City and in Tulsa.
The news organizations in Oklahoma haven’t conducted any polls that I am aware of so I have no idea of the strength of any of the candidates for President here in Oklahoma.
Rfk jr will drop out and endorse Trump so that means all RFK JR supporters have to vote for Trump!!!
Everyone needs to support and vote Trump!
Satan is on the side of Kamala Harris and Jesus Christ is supporting Trump very strongly, so I believe the Stock who will vote for Harris is the real Stock.
There is still time for Stock to accept Jesus into his heart.
Kent: Jesus turned to dust 2000 years ago in the tomb from which he never rose. I rejected Jesus over 30 years ago and any belief in the Supernatural 5 years later. Now that I am free of superstition I will never go back to the ignorance and stupidity of belief in God.
Stock is so full of shit it’s pathetic. No wonder he’s hated around here, and probably life in general.
Stock knows Satan is real and calls him a friend and brother.
Stock admitted he was insane.
Is anyone not Stock?
Reminder: Satanists do not believe Satan is real. Satan is just a symbol of humanities’ carnal nature in opposition to spiritual illusion. If anyone thinks that Satan is a real entity then that person is not allowed to join the Church of Satan. If any member comes to believe that Satan is a real entity instead of just a metaphor, then that person is kicked out of the Church of Satan.
The rituals and calling upon Satan is self-transformative psychodrama. It like when you watch a movie or a play you suspend your disbelief and feel as if you actually are in Middle Earth or riding in the Millennium Falcon. When the performance is over you return to the real world. That is what happens during a Satanic Ritual.
Everyone is Stock.
Reminder: Calling Satan a friend and brother is part of the beginning of the Satanic Rituals outlined by Anton LaVey in the Satanic Bible. When I have used that phrase on this site it is to make fun of the Religious Fundamentalist Nutjobs. A little blasphemy to mock their ridiculous faith.
Once I was angry with a co-worker and told her to go to hell. She was so upset she quit her job. She said that her belief in the torment of hellfire was so strong and frightening to her that she would have preferred that I had told her to suck my dick instead. Now that is insane, but is an example of how absurd is religious belief.
Everyone is Stock.
She was just trying to tell you she wanted to suck it.
She quit because you didn’t take the hint.
Realist: She didn’t say that to me. She told another co-worker who let me know how angry she was. Incidentally that other co-worker was sucking my dick.
She was jealous.
Realist: I mentioned that incident as an example of the extreme absurdity of belief in God. Christian Fundamentalists are the most pathetic, deluded, sad sack losers on the planet.
They can suck my dick. And do. Excellent technique.
She quit because she didn’t want to work with a dumbass retarded troll with no life.
Trump is our only hope for salvation.
@Jim Riley
Originally the commutation was not supposed to include Charles Manson and Sirhan Sirhan. They went out of their way to not only spare his life but also ensure he got the possibility of parole. That happened under Tricky Dick’s presidency. He didn’t make any attempt to stop it, which he could easily have done. And it’s not as if California hasn’t executed far less heinous criminals since then.
Indeed, Bobby Jr was the only one of Bobby Sr’s kids in favor of allowing Sirhan Sirhan parole. You could say its endearing that he is ready to forgive his father’s murderer. Alternatively, you could say he’s a moron for wanting to let an anti-semitic assassin out of jail in the current anti-semitic US climate.
Because let’s be very clear about that – that is why Sirhan Sirhan will burn in hell: not for killing corrupt commie mobster Bobby Sr, but for being an anti-semite Arab terrorist masquerading as a “Palestinian” “christian” “victim”.
What does the President have to do with a sentence imposed under California law? The California Supreme Court interpreted the California Constitution prohibition on “cruel OR unusual punishment” was more restrictive than the 8th Amendment’s prohibition on “cruel AND unusual punishment”. In response, California voters amended the California Constitution, but it was not retroactive.
Everything. As long as we allow presidential pardons to interfere with death sentences under state law to the advantage of the condemned, the president also has the duty to see justice is served.
Tricky Dick could easily have intervened in the California and ensured that the original terms of the People v Anderson were upheld so that Charles Manson and Sirhan Sirhan did not get their sentences commuted.
And he should have. That was his duty as president, and he failed in that duty – as he so often did. At the very least he should have exerted pressure to ensure Sirhan didn’t get gifted the possibility of parole.
If the California constitutional amendment was not retroactive, then it should not have been retroactive applied to those already sentenced to death, like Charles Manson and Sirhan Sirhan.
Since the People v Anderson, California has nonetheless managed to executed several far less heinous criminals, who weren’t anti-semitic terrorist incompatibly pretending to be Christian but also “Palestinian”. Yet somehow of all people, Sirhan Sirhan gets exempted and gifted the possibility parole.
That has everything to do with the president who allowed that to happen, when he could have and should have prevented it. It is outrageous and, like his betrayals of Vietnam, Korea and Israel, is a far blacker mark on his track record than any of the more talked about puffed-up non-violations like the Watergate “scandal”.
Presidents have no power to pardon or commute the sentence of state prisoners, only federal prisoners. And the executive power to pardon or commute a death penalty does not come with the power to impose or reimpose one where the courts have done away with it.