On September 11, a Fulton County Superior Court removed all petitioning presidential candidates from the ballot. Pigg v Raffensperger, 24cv-011040, is the decision involving Claudia De la Cruz, the Party for Socialism & Liberation nominee. See it here. There is a similar opinion that removes Cornel West from the ballot.
It says that independent presidential candidates are not suppose to circulate a petition in their own name. Instead they must submit petitions for particular candidates for presidential elector, which would mean that if an independent candidate wanted to run a full slate of electors, he or she would need 16 separate petitions (because Georgia has 16 electoral votes). The opinion also says it is sufficient if the presidential candidate only has one candidate for presidential elector, and with just a single elector candidate, the presidential candidate can be on the ballot.
Ironically, this petition is exactly the opposite of the Pennsylvania elections office, which believes that presidential candidates can’t be on the ballot without a full slate of electors.
The Georgia case is being appealed. This decision has no effect on the Green Party because the Green Party is fighting to place Jill Stein on the ballot under a different law, the one that says a party is on automatically for president if it is on for president in at least 20 other states. Also it has no effect on the Libertarian Party, which is ballot-qualified in Georgia for all the statewide offices.
What is WITH Georgia this year? They are making all the weirdest decisions. There’s probably a 70% chance that Trump wins the state, but this is just schizophrenic.
I’m not a big conspiracy person, but i can’t help but think that there are forces in Georgia trying to screw things up so bad that the election is resolved in court.
ONE MORE REASON TO ABOLISH THE NOW SUPER-BYZANTINE MINORITY RULE EC
So are the Greens still on the Georgia ballot for now?
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/09/12/nypd-commissioner-caban-resigns-corruption-investigation/75191881007/
MORE CORRUPTION IN COMMIE OR FASCIST REGIMES ??? —
ESP RE GOVT $$$ CONTRACTS — ESP VIA FED *AID* [ GETTING FBI ATTENTION/JURISDICTION ]
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2024/09/12/judge-rules-there-is-probable-cause-to-believe-lee-chatfield-staffers-embezzled-political-cash/75188128007/
MORE LOOTERS ???
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2024/09/12/most-americans-dont-trust-ai-powered-election-information-survey/75187689007/
ARE BOTH HARRIS/TRUMP A-I CREATIONS ???
Jill Stein is on the Georgia ballot for now, but Democrats say they will soon sue to remove her also.
Georgia has a historic reputation for being a hard-ass ballot access state for minor party candidates.
DemocRATs can’t STAND that Governor Kemp approved that law that if you’re on 20 other state ballots, you’re automatically on the ballot in Georgia. Their delusional arses are trying to pretend that Dr. Stein isn’t on 20+ ballots 🤣.
All the best to Claudia too, we know how insecure she and Dr. Stein make the anti-Democratic party. Are they also trying to go over Dr. West in Georgia? because I think he’s doing the same petition as Claudia.
I’m beginning to think that Georgia should be divided into two new states; West Georgia, which would include The Atlanta and Columbus areas, and East Georgia, which would include everything else.
They need to build a wall around Atlanta to contain the niggers.
Stein has told her supporters she has been sued by Democrats in GA challenging her qualification under GA’s new statute for parties qualified in 20 other states.
Yesterday I observed a meeting of the MS Election Board where 9 petitioning parties were approved. The one exception was Cornel West who was disqualified based on late filing of required annual party report.
Gov. Reeves never read out the names of all 9 qualified parties and I couldn’t see the paperwork. Waiting for approved sample ballot to be posted.
Trying to explain the electoral process really simply:
In each state, a person collects signatures from others in a limited timeframe in order to get on the ballot as an official “presidential elector wannabe”. The elector-wannabe has to nominate someone for president before getting put on the ballot. Several people can collect signatures and try to get on the ballot. The nominee has a say on which of those people it wishes to be their elector-wannabes. But, in each state, only a certain number of elector-wannabes who nominate the same person can be on the ballot at the same time. That number is based on their state’s representation in Congress.
When you vote in November, you don’t see the names of the elector-wannabes. You only see the names of the people they nominated.
After the election, one of the presidential nominees is found to have the most votes. So then, the state appoints that nominee’s elector-wannabes as the real electors. Those real electors now get to vote for whomever they nominated… except under extreme circumstances. Congress adds up all of the votes from all of the electors in each state. If a presidential nominee gets a majority of the votes, they win and become president in January!
Did I explain it right?
If there were no government printed ballots, the state could just ask the winning nominee, “Give me your list of people you want to be your electors”. As long as those people aren’t serving in Congress, or have engaged in insurrection, or don’t meet some state requirement, then everything’s good. If not, the state can say “That person can’t be an elector. Pick someone else.” That sounds a lot more simple than the whole petitioning thing.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/12/politics/trump-georgia-election-subversion-charges/index.html
Judge throws out two charges Trump faces in Georgia election subversion case
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FED VS STATE JURISDICTION
The judge in the case let the attorney for Mr. Pigg write her order???
Isn’t this an abridgement of the right to vote for a choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States?
@AC,
Why should some resident of Florida, California, Georgia, or Michigan tell the State of Texas who they want to appoint as electors?
When there were no government-printed ballots voters would vote for individual electors. In Texas, they could vote for individual electors until 1931.
@Jim
They already do, right?
The presidential nominee has to submit paperwork saying that they accept nomination from elector candidates X, Y, and Z… right?
JR 1931
WORST YEAR OF GREAT DEPRESSION I — 1929-1941
OPEN LEFT/RIGHT EXTREMISTS — COMMIES/FASCISTS
Legislators voting for individual electors was even better. The restrictions on voting rights back then made a lot of sense too, are sorely missed, and ought to be brought back.
No printed or for that matter hand written ballots anywhere sounds good to me. A fellow ought not have to learn to cast spells to be able to vote. But he ought to be a property owning, employed male head of household, married with several children, gainfully employed or a business owner or independently wealthy, of course a US and State and County citizen and resident, etc. He ought to show up to vote in person on election night with the results available that same night.
I’ll skip the part about accountability through open voting.