This year, Georgia and Ohio ballots have presidential candidates on them, for whom votes will not be counted. This has never happened before in any state in the United States. In Georgia, after the ballots were printed, the State Supreme Court said the petitions for Claudia De la Cruz and Cornel West were invalid. In Ohio, after the ballots were printed, the Secretary of State said Jill Stein had accidentally withdrawn. So, in both states, voters will see names on the ballot but if they vote for those names, their vote won’t be counted.
Wasn’t Ralph Nader on the Ohio ballot before he was knocked off the ballot? I recall that in Cuyahoga County his ballot position on the punch card templates had been pasted over. Were actual printed ballots reprinted?
Jim Riley, you recall correctly. We also had punch-card ballots here in Richland County. The space for Ralph Nader’s ticket was covered-up with a thin white label, that was very easy to read the bold ballot text through. This was the most amateurish ballot I have ever seen. It made it look like the ballot had been tampered with, even though I had already heard the news about Nader being “removed.” Nader was punch-hole number 6, and I went ahead and punched it anyway, just in case my “vote” might somehow be seen, in the event of a statewide manual recount. (Remember that Ohio was the swing state in 2004, and this was the very next presidential election after all of the drama around punch-card ballots in Florida after the 2000 election.) Of course, in the official election results, no votes for Nader were counted. That’s why I didn’t bother trying to select Jill Stein’s ticket this time around, despite the (ongoing?) legal case trying to get those votes to count. I cast my “vote” for the fake write-in ticket of Maya Butt-Hertz and Ivy Ben Scrood, in protest. I figure my “vote” would count the same either way (in other words, not count at all) but at least someone might get a laugh if they look at my ballot, that is, if they get the pun.
I would laugh if a stupid-ass decision by a Republican SoS in Ohio winds up flipping the state to Democrats. (And, if 1/10 of the two big takeaways in Iowa from the Des Moines Register’s final poll translate to other states? It might happen. If 1/4 translates, it very much could happen.)
Just Me, I did see one poll where Trump was only up by five points in Ohio. That seems to be a bit of an outlier, but it does track with the results of that Iowa poll, so who knows?
I just saw that the campaigns of Jill Stein, Claudia De La Cruz, and Cornel West have entered into a three-way collaborative agreement. This is basically a vote-sharing arrangement, where each candidate is urging their supporters to vote for one of the other candidate’s tickets, in states where their own ticket did not qualify for the ballot. I will note that Jill Stein is still not telling her supporters in Ohio to switch to a different ticket. The announced arrangement only applies to a select few states.
In Ohio, the ticket of Claudia De La Cruz for President and Karina Garcia for Vice President did qualify as a valid write-in ticket. Cornel West did not qualify for the ballot in Ohio, nor is he a valid write-in candidate.
It is already too late to change my vote. However, I thought that I’d put this information out there, in the hopes that someone in Ohio will see it, and vote the same way that I would have voted if this arrangement had been announced before I voted.
14-2 amdt subverted
—
https://www.yahoo.com/news/georgia-top-court-cancels-extension-221850557.html
ga abs ballots
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/pennsylvania-supreme-court-sides-with-gop-in-last-minute-mail-in-ballot-dispute/ar-AA1tnUU2
PA BALLOTS
—-
HOW MANY ABS BALLOTS RECEIVED AFTER E DAY WILL COUNT ???
SHOULD BE Z-E-R-O.
In the 2016 Primary in CA AIP there were two write-in candidates of the ballot that got more votes than all the printed candidaes. Two of the County ROV gave me the total cast of the write-in within the AIP. TRUMP got the most votes followed by Clinton as a distant second in write-in votes.
That was the main reason Trump in the general election of 2016 got the nomination from CA AIP
https://fiscaldata.treasury.gov/datasets/debt-to-the-penny/debt-to-the-penny
ALMOST $$$ 36 TRILLION – USA REGIME DEBT
STATES/LOCALS -ANOTHER $$$ 15 PLUS TRILLION
WHICH STATIST MORON – H OR T – WILL OPEN ITS MORON MOUTH AND SET OFF THE ECON DESTRUCTION OF WESTERN CIVILIZATION ???
AZ, my opinion on absentee ballots is that as long as the voter followed all of the instructions that came with their ballot, the vote should be counted. I’m not sure how PA does it, but here in Ohio the deadline for mailing the ballot is that it must be postmarked by the day before the election, and received by the county board of elections no later than four days after election day. If the government wants to step in, to change or clarify the deadline to receive ballots, then they should do that well-in-advance of the next election. It is already too close to election day to be changing the rules for this election at the last minute.
As far as the national debt, RFK Jr. had a plan to pay it off by having the government invest in Bitcoin. Trump seemed to have copied RFK Jr.’s idea, at least when they were still running against each other. I’m not sure if Trump’s policy has changed again since they teamed up.
Who told you earlier than AZ that eating pets and Puerto Rico were going to be key to this year’s election? Name one person.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/fired-cbs-reporter-catherine-herridge-222412869.html
hunter biden laptop — CBS KILL STORY
—
PK –
ABS BALLOTS = IN PERSON BALLOTS ON ELECTION DAYS — N-O-T AFTER E DAYS
—-
FIRST THING TO BE REPORTED WHEN POLLS CLOSE ON E DAYS = NUMBER OF VOTED BALLOTS —- IN PERSON AND ABS BALLOTS
— BIT REDUCE CONSPIRACIES AND DETECT BALLOT BOX STUFFING.
https://radar.weather.gov/region/conus/standard
BIT RAIN — ESP IN IN WISC AND MICH
SNAIL MAIL EVEN SLOWER – FOR ABS BALLOTS ESP ???
https://www.yahoo.com/news/dont-blame-not-voting-unbelievably-193046917.html
REASON N.G. ON H.T ROT
HOW DOES REASON SURVIVE IN COMMIE CA ???
Nostradamus? Kreskin? Einstein?
We got AZ!
I have always been a state righter, but when it comes to ballot access and vote counting by the states and requirements for candidates they SUCK. Perhaps all elections should be in the hands of FEDS.
Perhaps they should be in the hands of the PRECINCTS.
I agree 100 percent, Boo. My only concern is that if we did have a national standard for ballot access, the major parties would make it harder (or impossible) for independent and minor party candidates to make it on the ballot anywhere. There should perhaps be some unified national standard when it comes to rules for withdrawing from the ballot, after qualifying. We definitely need some kind of standard for the rules for absentee ballots, across the entire country, so we don’t keep running into these questions about mailing deadlines, deadlines for receiving the mailed ballots, etc. People voting absentee may be temporarily living in a different state than the state where they vote. So, if they see local political advertising about absentee voting, it may be confusing, if that state has different rules than the state where that voter is from.
Puerto Rico was the deciding issue of the election. ¡We are not garbage, unlike Trump and his supporters!
@Pat Kiser,
As you likely know, Ohio does ballot rotation on a precinct-by-precinct basis. Ohio also has (or had) extremely small limits for precinct sizes. Because of this multiple precincts (say 3 or 4) could share a polling location because it was the only suitable location in a mostly residential area.
So while hole 6 might have been Nader in your precinct, it might have been for Kerry or Peroutka in a neighboring precinct. Now imagine that the punching templates get mixed up between precincts. You punch using the wrong punching template. You punch next to “Nader” which is Hole 4. You then take it over to the ballot box for your precinct and deposit. When it gets counted, your vote was for Bush or perhaps Badnarik.
This could happen in many different ways. The polling place has three precincts, and the intent is to have three banks of three punching devices. The assistant is not so bright, so it is stressed to him that when he finishes setting up the three banks of privacy stands that he place a large placard with the precinct number on the end of the banks. In his mind it is the placard that makes the punching devices work.
The head election judge sets out the punching devices, while the assistant unfolds the privacy stands. The head election judge is distracted, and the assistant misplaces a couple of punching devices. And then carefully places the placards on the ends of the banks of privacy stands. At the end of the day, perhaps 1/3 of ballots in a couple of precincts are miscounted.
One of the many reasons standing count is much better.
What the hell is going in PA with Ballot machines malfunctioning in rural Red counties including BUTLER .Is this by design?
RIchard Winger can you make a post about these voting irregulaties. Do you think the dems and there affliates are targeting red counties intentionally with these software issues?
I know PA is a crucial state
The KKK is on the scene working hard to secure the Pennsylvania vote.
A universal nationwide ballot format? The write-in only ballot with an encrypted secret ballot receipt enabling each voter to verify their ballot is included in the final tally. No pre-printed names, no possibility of an “overcrowded” ballot.
Standing Count is better.
I have a strong memory that Linda Jenness was listed on the Ohio ballot in 1972, but with votes for her ordered not to be counted, because of her being under-age to serve as president.
Unfortunately, I forget the details, except for the fact that Cuyahoga County had counted 10,000 voter for her, before someone remembered that her votes were not allowed, the count for them was stopped.
The key issue was noming pets, not Puerto Rico. But there too AZ was prophetic!