The Federal Election Commission met on September 1. On the agenda was the matter of Abdul Karim Hassan, who is a naturalized U.S. citizen who wishes to run for president in 2012. He had asked the FEC whether he is permitted to raise money for his campaign, and whether he is eligible to receive primary matching funds. He clearly admits that he does not meet the Constitutional requirements to become President.
FEC staff had prepared two possible advisory opinions, both of which say Hassan is free to raise money, but which differ on whether he is eligible for matching funds. Draft “A” says he is ineligible to receive primary season matching funds. Draft “B” says the FEC will not decide this until he actually raises the needed $5,000 from each of 20 states. At the meeting, the FEC declined to choose either draft, but a third draft has been written and will be evaluated soon. Hassan was born in Guyana. Here is the text of Drafts “A” and “B”. UPDATE: Draft “C” says Hassan cannot receive primary matching funds, but it still requires him to obey the campaign finance laws on contribution limits, and reporting. It seems most likely that the FEC will ultimately choose draft “C” as policy. UPDATE: on September 2, the FEC did choose draft “C”. Thanks to Bill Van Allen for this news. Here is a Roll Call story about the September 2 decision, which was not made in public.
Can’t wait for Demo Rep’s response to this one…
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# 1 How New Age N-U-T-S is the FEC ???
natural born = AT BIRTH ALLEGIANCE to a regime — based on father / daddy / papa nation-state status — WHERE EVER a kid is physically born —
in any nation-state, on the high seas, and now even in outer space.
NOTHING new since 1776 — repeated in 14th Amdt, Sec. 1 — *subject to the jurisdiction thereof*.
Sorry – the 1787 folks did NOT want a U.S.A. Prez CIC to have ANY foreign family connection.
The kids of Foreign nation-state fathers (legal and illegal) physically born in the U.S.A. are NOT U.S.A. citizens — regardless of any standard MORON SCOTUS ravings in one or more of their JUNK opinions.
Mory Povich variant — Who’s your daddy ??? — and what was his nation-state status the instant you were physically born.
Sorry — MALE dominance in 1776-1868 — regardless of all sorts of mindless New Age legal history MORONS.
natural born = AT BIRTH ALLEGIANCE to a regime — based on father / daddy / papa nation-state status — WHERE EVER a kid is physically born –
Incorrect. Everyone born in the US is a natural born citizen, regardless of who their parents are. Children of US citizens born abroad are also natural born US citizens.
To whom it may…. Please read contemporary historian of the revolution and constitutional period, Dr. David Ramsay, of South Carolina. His essay on NBC supports the position that members of the Constitutional Convention wished to restrict eligibility for the Office of President to persons born of two U.S. citizens within the jurisdiction of the U.S.
Fear of foreign influence on a U.S. President was the rationale for the position of those who supported the inclusion of the Article 2 sec 1 NBC clause of the Constitution. Similar historical documents describe the strong agreement of members of the New York Constitutional Committee which met in Poughkeepsie, N.Y.to eventually approve the document composed and debated in Philadelphia.
Court: Kings Civil Supreme
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#4 Incorrect. Everyone born in the US is a natural born citizen, regardless of who their parents are. Children of US citizens born abroad are also natural born US citizens.
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Yeah sure.
A highly pregnant Queen of England happens to be in the U.S.A. and has the kid born in the White House.
Is the kid a U.S.A. natural born citizen ??? Duh.
Some DNA tests needed ???
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For the non brain dead —
The Japanese Empire occupied various U.S.A. colonies during World War II — taking along some of their sex slave women.
If such women had kids were they Japanese or natural born U.S.A. citizen ??? Duh.
i.e. an invading army brings its women along and directly invades the U.S.A. — some kids are born.
Are they natural born U.S.A. citizens ??? Duh.
Think the Brit Army during the War of 1812 – invasions of the U.S.A. in MD-DC, Michigan Territory and Louisiana.
“Is the kid a U.S.A. natural born citizen ?”
Yes.
“Some DNA tests needed ?”
No.
“i.e. an invading army brings its women along and directly invades the U.S.A. — some kids are born.
Are they natural born U.S.A. citizens ?”
Yes.
Richard: In 2004 and 2008 the Socialist Workers Party nominated Roger Calero for President. He was born in Nicaragua. Did the FEC give him any funds in his campaigns?
#9, the Socialist Workers Party has never tried to obtain primary season matching funds. It is a difficult job and no Green Party candidate (except Ralph Nader in 2000) has ever qualified for primary season matching funds either. The only people who have (who ran outside the major parties) are Sonia Johnson of the Citizens Party in 1984, Lenora Fulani in 1988 and 1992, John Hagelin all three times he ran for the Natural Law Party, and Ralph Nader three times, and Pat Buchanan in 2000, and John Anderson in 1980.