1. Georgia is just trying to make South Carolina look good.

2. The SLOW moving wheels of Justice grind on and on and on.

   Will SCOTUS have ANY summer vacation in 2012 ???

3. I’m thinking Obama loses by default for not showing up. He would sure as hell lose on the merits if he attended and brought his “papers.”

4. A man does not spend in excess of 3 million in legal fees to argue he has the right to keep the job he has when he can just show the proper documentation. The same man implements ndaa s1867 instead, because he is and always was ineligible. Said the newcomer….

5. Strange that no major media is reporting on this. Why?
   Maybe they are withholding bad news that the POTUS may not be truly in office?

6. What a load of crap.

   Let’s back up and look at the facts.

   1. Two Georgia “birthers” filed suit to remove President Obama from the Democratic primary ballot in GA.

   2. Orly Taitz, Chief of the Birthers, joined the suit.

   3. The attorney for the Democratic Party of GA filed a motion to quash the suits.

   4. The Administrative Law Judge determined that he wanted a full hearing.

   5. MEANWHILE — the subpoena form used by the ALJ was online, placed there for the convenience of attorneys. Orly Taitz printed that form and issued “subpoenas” to a boatload of people, including the President. Her “subpoenas” are worthless — ONLY a judge can issue a subpoena. However, she announced that she had “subpoenaed” the President, the press picked up the claim, and AP ran a poorly-researched story about the President being ordered to “appear in court.” No such thing happened — it was Orly Taitz’s nonsense.

   As for the President’s eligibiity — that question was settled long ago. The man is a US citizen and is eligible for the office he holds.

   And, no, he has NOT spent “in excess of 3 million in fees.” Birthers have claimed the President spent $500,000, $2 million, and “in excess of $3 million” to defend himself. Nonsense. In the first place, it would be nice if you clowns would get your stories straight. In the second place, this figure comes from documents filed with the Federal Election Commission that show the TOTAL legal fees paid by the Obama campaign — those fees have nothing to do with “defending” himself — these are fees for filing to run in all states and territories.

7. #6
   Thank you for your kind assessment.

8. For live video coverage from the hearings, go to
   http://www.Art2SuperPAC.com

9. This is a lynching by the neo-confederates of that backward cesspool of a state, Georgia.

10. Fast and furious, sealed college records, foreign born father, Indonesian citizenship(as per his mother), 30 some czars, illegal recess appointments and now contempt of court…….if the foo bird xxits, wear it

11. Well, it seems obama has uttered one false document after another and has avoided having to prove citizenship in court either by bribes or strong arm tactics as all the evident’s he has given thus far is very compelling against him. Also note that none of this has yet to be properly adjudicated.

12. 8 –

    Thank you Mr. Ed.

13. He is not eligible, for several reasons: He and two friends visited Pakistan when he was 20 years old. Pakistan would not let Americans into their country at that time, so he used an Indonesian passport. He never returned to USA and swore repatriation to a judge before he was 21 years old, so he is not eligible for that reason.
    His father was a British subject. Obama can’t be eligible for that reason.
    The birth certificate is clearly a forgery. On both the birth certificate and the certificate of live birth where it asks for Father’s Race whoever forged them both put down:African. African is not a race, it is a location. Birth certificates of that era would have said negroe or negroid, just like mine says caucasian, not European.
    This is important: If we can be successful in showing Obama is not eligible everything he signed is invalid. That is the prize. Obamacare, 2 SCOTUS nominations,NDAA,over 500 executive orders…all GONE!
    Please support these efforts. No one spends millions of dollars to stop anyone looking at this if there isn’t something to hide.
    Rise up lovers of the Constitution everywhere! Please.

14. 13 –

    Yes!

    Rise up idiots everywhere. If we can’t unseat a president because of a BJ, we must find some other reason.

    In the meantime, oppose any of his efforts to help the country. be the party of “No.” Screw the poor. Screw the unemployed. Feed the rich. Move jobs overseas. Quibble about whether a million and a half in speaker’s engagements qualifies one of our candidates as the poor man’s Republican, but by all means don’t do anything that would give even the slightest appearance that Obama has succeeded in anything.

    Remember Mush Dimbulb’s mantra from the very beginning – we want Obama to fail.

    Did you know, BTW, that Obama fought with the Confederates in the Civil War? Yup! Ask him to disprove it. He CAN’T!

    Rise up lovers of idiocy everywhere. Rise up.

15. #12 & #14
    Thank you again for your kind words.
    Its 9AM, are you watching the hearing via the interet link — see # 8

16. I wonder if Herman Cain would have had to submit documentation that he was a citizen if he would have been elected to office… it is disgusting what this man must go through because of the color of his skin. I feel sorry for such close minded indivduals.

17. Actually, Old Redneck, you’re wrong. This is not about determining whether he is a citizen or not. It’s not enough to be a citizen of the United States in order to be president. You must also be a natural born citizen, which is a person who is born to two people who are American citizens at the time of birth. Obama admits his father was a British citizen.

    Minor v. Happersett , 88 U.S. 162 (1875) is very clear as to what a natural born citizen is, and according to the definition of this case, Obama is NOT a natural born citizen and therefore not eligible to be on the ballot.

    The fact that he refuses to release his real birth certificate, and he’s kept his records secret is enough to tell me that something is wrong here.

    Funny thing about lying though is that every time you lie, you have to tell another lie to cover on the last lie. Eventually you can’t remember all the lies you’ve told, you make a mistake, and it’s all over.

    If Obama’s nose grew an inch every time he lied, I bet his nose would be able to wrap itself around the world at least once.

18. To # 16

    Herman Cain would not be subject to the same scrutiny because he is an “Natural Born Citizen” unlike Obama.

    I am a White male and if Herman Cain where still running for office in 2012 he would have my vote, not only because he is American but because his views are true and correct he has the right ideas i’d like to be instilled in to the american public. This piece of trash liberal, social wannabe dictator we have right now is tearing this country apart. Herman Cain if you read this please run for president your mistakes with the mistress are forgiven by me. And i hope your wife is able to forgive you. God Bless

19. Yes, our FRAMERS used the specific term of art – NATURAL BORN CITIZEN – to describe the ordinary birth of a child in the USA to be eligible to be President.
    .
    Yes, I understand this.

20. 19 –

    Obama may have been born in this country, but I hear he was a breach birth. That’s not “natural.”

    Either are Caesarian births. Not natural. Roman, perhaps, but not natural and certainly not bona fidey American.

    Hey! It’s really EASY to think like an idiot!

    Ah-hyuh!

    Thanks, Mr. Ed.

21. Wow, I did not realize that there were so many delusional people reading this highly useful, informative, rather election law geeky site. I thought I had wandered over to Red State by accident. To those of you trying to reason with all of the birthers who posted — thank you for your efforts, but I trust you realize that you cannot debate with the insane.

22. #21
    Thank you for your instant remote diagnosis

    and thank you yet again #20

23. Most of America is too stupid to take this issue seriously.

24. Mr Obama most likely is NOT legal, otherwise he wouldn’t seal his college records, or forge signatures on the birth certificate. Did he ever have any friends that can speak to this? At this point,it probably doesn’t matter if Mr Obama is a natural born citizen or not. Any president is now just a puppet and spokesman for the Council of Foreign Relations and the rich elite (Illuminati). The New World Order is alive and well. Mr Bush was also a part of this group, and the Media is controlled by them… that is why so many Americans do not know the truth. People are beginning to find the truth through research, and that is why they want to shut down the internet.

25. Thank you everyone.
    — no show defense by 2012 POTUS/CINC candidate BO today in Atlanta.

26. #13 Roxiroxi: “He never returned to USA …”

    I don’t understand. Are you claiming that Obama has been telecommuting from Pakistan for the last 30 years?

27. #17 Jinger: No, Minor v. Happersett is not very clear about what a natural-born citizen is. Here’s the relevant quote:

    At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. For the purposes of this case it is not necessary to solve these doubts.

    The Minor case involved a woman who was suing to be allowed to vote (in 1874, when women generally did not have that right). The court agreed that the plaintiff was a citizen, but said that citizenship didn’t necessarily carry with it the right to vote, and found against her.

    The court did not rule on whether a person born in the U.S. and who had one parent or two parents who were foreigners was a natural-born citizen for purposes of becoming President, because that was irrelevant to the case.

28. #21 DHMCarver: My comments above are more directed to the interest of other readers, not necessarily the persons I’m responding to.

29. All you people defending Obama haven’t seen the evidence presented by experts??? Are you going to argue with the expert FROM ADOBE stating the birth certificate was fake? How about the Immigration expert saying his father was NEVER a US citizen (he stressed NEVER)? Take on the E-verify expert who said his SSN was fraudulent? Obama’s own admission in his book his Dad was Kenyan? Are you going to take those experts on or keep living in your dream world of defending this man whose true identity is hidden?? Yeah, I thought so.

30. 29 –

    Julie, come out of the corn field. You’ll catch cold.

31. Again, PLEASE TrueFoe argue with the testimony given by the experts instead of taking cheap shots at people. You know more than the experts do??? You are SOOOO big behind your keyboard.

32. #29
    Thank you yet again for posting here at Ballot Access News election blog.

    No ruling in ‘birther’ challenge
    http://www.ajc.com/news/georgia-politics-elections/no-ruling-in-birther-1318374.html

33. NBC – ALLEGIANCE of a new kid to a nation-state AT birth — based on fathers’s nation-state ALLEGIANCE.

    Naturalization – change in such ALLEGIANCE to another nation-state AFTER birth.

    Difficult only for ignorant folks.
    ———–
    How many pregnant U.S.A. citizen females (having U.S.A. citizen fathers) have a kid born OUTSIDE of the U.S.A. — i.e. in a foreign regime or on the high seas in a foreign flag vessel ??? — both civilian and military females.

    Such kids are NOT foreign citizens — but ALL such kids are NBC.

    Do the reverse for foreign citizens/subjects.

    Such foreign folks are foreign folks even if born physically in the U.S.A. — they are NOT subject to the jurisdiction of the U.S.A. regarding BIRTH — 14th Amdt, Sec. 1. See the 1866 Debates in the U.S.A. Senate.

    NO foreign connection allowed for a U.S.A. Prez — being the CIC. A BIG deal in 1787 — a bit primitive now.

34. Hi! I have two comments, and I will submit one then the other. They are both absolutely valid for you all to consider, please.
    STATES WITH THE NEW
    NATIONAL POPULAR VOTE LAW
    SHOULD BE MOST CONCERNED ABOUT
    THE PRESIDENT OBAMA ELIGIBILITY CASE
    JANUARY 26, 2012.

    Vermont, is a state which is violating
    the U.S. Constitutional rights of its voters by “giving away”
    our Electoral College votes to whomever gets the highest
    number of votes nationwide,
    rather than the highest number
    of votes in Vermont.

    The new Vermont law is called
    National Popular Vote.

    Doesn’t that give every Vermont voter
    legal standing to be concerned about WHO gets on the ballot
    for President in every other state for the primary and general
    elections?

    President Barack Hussein Obama presented his first birth certificate
    to the American public on factcheck.org,
    and on it, in the lower right hand corner,
    in tiny print, are H.R.S. codes,
    which are Hawaii Revised Statutes
    that prove the certificate was altered and/or amended.

    What was it altered and/or amended from?

    Why are the ultra super rich 1% treated differently under the law, as compared
    to how disrespectfully, and sometimes even hatefully, the lower 99% are treated?

    PROPOSED CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT AGAINST PRESIDENT
    BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA FOR FRAUDULENT
    CONCEALMENT OF FACTS
    PROPOSED:
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    CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT
    |
    AGAINST
    |
    PRESIDENT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA
    |
    FOR
    |
    FRAUDULENT CONCEALMENT OF MATERIAL FACTS THAT HE ALLEGEDLY HAS A DUTY TO PROVIDE
    VOTERS BECAUSE HIS “CERTIFICATION OF LIVE BIRTH” SHOWS THIS LEGAL NOTICE IN TINY
    PRINT IN THE LOWER RIGHT HAND CORNER:
    |
    “[HRS 338-13(b), 338-19].
    |
    l DUTY is required by the legal notice on his
    “Certification of Live Birth” which, in the lower right hand corner, in tiny
    fine print, states: [HRS 338-13(b), 338-19].
    ||
    Was it fraud in a fiduciary capacity against taxpayers and voters for each and
    every member of the United States Congress on January 8, 2009 to vote without
    first issuing a subpoena for Barack Hussein Obama’s original long form birth
    certificate? Isn’t it true that Federal Rules of Evidence prohibit the members
    of the United States Congress, both House and Senate, from relying on
    non-admissible hearsay?
    |
    Was the Congressional certification of Electoral College Votes on January 8,
    2009 an act of conspiracy to defraud voters and taxpayers
    because former Vice President Dick Cheney asked for members of Congress to vote
    without informed consent, and this resulted in an alleged possible conspiracy to
    issue forth certified votes as fraudulent conveyances?
    |
    28 USCS Section 1491 Claims against the United States.
    http://ucfc.uscourts.gov/
    Federal Claims Court
    http://uscode.house.gov/
    Online law library
    28 USCS
    |
    Chapter 91. United States Court of Federal Claims
    |
    Section 1491. Claims against United States generally
    |
    (a)(1) The United States Court of Federal Claims shall have jurisdiction to
    render judgment upon any claim against the United States founded either upon the
    Constitution [USCS, Constitution], or any Act of Congress or any regulation of
    an executive department, or upon any express or implied contract with the United
    States.
    |
    (2) To provide an entire remedy and to complete the relief afforded by the
    judgment, the court may, as an incident of and collateral to any such judgment,
    issue orders directing restoration to office or position, placement in
    appropriate duty or retirement status, and correction of applicable records, and
    such orders may be issued to any appropriate official of the United States. In
    any case within its jurisdiction, the Court shall have the power to remand
    appropriate matters to any administrative or executive body or official with
    such direction as it may deem proper and just.
    |
    “Court of Federal Claims is Article I Court of limited jurisdiction created by
    Congress as forum where private parties could sue government for non-tort money
    claims, where claims would otherwise be barred by sovereign immunity.” Slovacek
    v United States (1998) 40 Fed Cl 828, 98-1 USTC 50397, 81 AFTR 2d 98-1859.
    |
    “Congress created Court of Federal Claims to afford individuals forum to bring
    specific claims against government; while placing jurisdictional limits upon
    Court, Congress did not intend those jurisdictional limits to be manipulated to
    prevent claimant from recovering compensation against government.” Davis v
    United States (1996) 35 Fed Cl 392.
    |
    “Jurisdiction under 28 USCS Section 1491 applies only to contracts either
    express or implied in fact, not implied in law, where (1) agreement implied in
    fact is founded upon meeting of minds, which, although not embodied in express
    contract, is inferred from conduct of parties showing their tacit understanding,
    while (2) by contrast, agreement implied in law is fiction of law where promise
    is imputed to perform legal duty.” Hercules Inc. v United States (1996, US) 134
    L Ed 2d 47, 116 S Ct 981, 96 CDOS 1403, 96 Daily Journal DAR 2395, 40 CCF 76894,
    9 FLW Fed S 442.
    |

    “HRS 338-19”, on President Obama’s Certification of Live Birth, in tiny fine
    print in the lower right hand corner [HRS 338-13(b), 338-19] is a legal notice
    of Hawaii Revised Statute 338-19 which means that this Certificate of Live Birth
    is based on documents that were too old or otherwise in such condition that they
    could not be used to certify. This statute is contradictory because if the
    documents were too old or in too poor a condition to be used to certify, then
    why did the State of Hawaii issue a “copy” that was based on possibly
    non-legible material? It makes no common sense. The Statute is contradictory,
    overly vague, overly broad and therefore unconstitutional.
    |
    HRS 338-13(b) is subject to the requirements of HRS 338-16, HRS 338-17 and HRS
    338-18. These are for birth certificates that are issued one year or more after
    birth, and for certificates that have been altered, and/or both. This set of
    statutes also gives a party legal standing to request a judicial determination
    of the validity of the birth certificate because it was issued one year or more
    after birth and/or altered.
    |
    “Court of Federal Claims lacks jurisdiction to hear claims against States or
    their Agencies except where States or their Agencies acted as agents of United
    States.” Hassan v United States (1998) 41 Fed CL 149.
    |
    Clearly, the State of Hawaii and the Agency of the Department of Health of
    Hawaii, have acted as agents of former Vice President Dick Cheney, Speaker of
    the House of Representatives in the United States Congress, Nancy Pelosi, and
    each and every member of the United States Congress, House and Senate, and
    President Barack Hussein Obama.

    |
    28 USCS Section 2680. “Plaintiff’s federal tort claim against government is not
    dismissed prior to discovery on grounds that discretionary function exception of
    28 USCS Section 2680(a) applied, because factual issues and evidence to support
    those issues are not presently known to plaintiff, and dismissal of action prior
    to discovery would be premature and unduly harsh.” Fanoele v United States
    (1995, DC Kan) 898 F Supp 822.
    |
    (1) The United States Congress failed to do their duty to obtain any long form
    birth certificate of Barack Hussein Obama before certifying the Electoral
    College Votes.
    (2) Former Vice President Dick Cheney failed to do his duty to ask for
    objections to the Electoral College vote.
    (3) President Barack Hussein Obama has failed to do his duty to release the
    information upon which statutes HRS 338-13(b) {which is subject to the
    requirements of 338-16, 338-17, 338-18} and 338-19 were legally required to be
    noticed on his “Certification of Live Birth”.
    (4) The United States Court of Federal Claims now has legal jurisdiction to hear
    complaints seeking President Barack Hussein Obama’s status as a natural born
    citizen because all of the Judges and Justices in State and Federal Courts,
    including the Supreme Court of the United States, dismissed and/or denied
    complaints where previous plaintiffs have tried various motions to compel Barack
    Hussein Obama’s original long form birth certificate and all other underlying
    documents supporting the legal notice on his short form Certification of Live
    Birth, including three legal notices on that form: (1) Date of Birth August 4,
    1961, Date filed with Registrar August 8, 1961; (2) [HRS 338-13(b), 338-19]; (3)
    (Rev. 11/01) LASER
    |
    The third legal notice on President Barack Hussein Obama’s Certification of Live
    Birth states (Rev. 11/01) LASER.
    |
    Barack Hussein Obama received this “Certification of Live Birth” after he was
    already 40 years old.
    |
    What took him so long?
    |
    Why did he receive this “Certification of Live Birth” which was issued when he
    was 40 years old, or older, after September 11, 2001, the Terrorist Attack on
    the United States of America? Where was he living during the Terrorist Attack on
    the United States of America and why did he need to get a “Certification of Live
    Birth” after the attack, and how much was it altered from the original long form
    birth certificate?
    |
    WE, the PEOPLE, NEED TO KNOW!
    |
    President Barack Hussein Obama holds the Office of the President of the United
    States of America, and his “Certification of Live Birth” should now be required
    to be determined if it can, or can not, withstand federal scrutiny. 28 USCS Appx
    Rule 803, n 119. United States Code Service, Lawyers Edition, Issued in May
    1998, Rules of Evidence for United States Courts and Magistrates, page 216,
    “District Court did not abuse its discretion in applying Federal Rules of
    Evidence rather than Hawaii Health Department rules and in finding results of
    intoxilizer test admissible under public records and reports exception to
    hearsay rule of Rule 803(6)(8), United States v De Water (1988, CA9 Hawaii) 846
    F2d 528, 25 Fed Rules Evid Serv 748.”
    |
    THIS PROPOSED
    Class Action Lawsuit to subpoena the material facts, the original material
    upon which the legal notice on the long form
    birth certificate of Barack Hussein Obama was based,
    in the United States Court of Federal
    Claims,
    needs
    a Pro Bono attorney.

    President Obama should be treated with Equal
    Respect, the same as any other possible
    illegal alien.

    In other words, shall we give
    every alleged illegal
    alien Equal Treatment Under the Law, the
    same as if they were sitting in the White House?

35. Hello again, and here is my second comment, and I hope both will appear on this website for you all to consider the merits of, please.

    OBAMA SOAP OPERA 2012

    The “Birthers” are still trying to find

    out what facts were amended and/or altered in

    President Obama’s birth certificate information.

    They won’t give up

    because they love a mystery and they love human drama.

    The first with the real facts will be panting on movie

    producers’ doorsteps!

    Obama Soap Opera and/or Movie Script

    Episode One:

    Mr. Stanley Dunham went to a Black (then known as “Nego”)

    bar in an area with prostitution.

    If Mr. Stanley Dunham got a Black (“Negro”) woman pregnant,

    then it is possible

    that he then asked his teenage daughter, Ms. Stanley Ann Dunham,

    to pretend to be

    the baby’s mother,

    (rather than what she really was, his half sister)

    to save his marriage.

    The prostitute turned her baby over to

    Mr. Stanley Dunham, who handed it over to his daughter.

    Ms. Stanley Ann Dunham’s friend, Barack Obama Sr. from Kenya,

    needed to extend his student visa

    and would willingly marry her,

    knowing that he was already married in Kenya

    and she could

    annul the marriage when it was convenient to her.

    In 1961, Ms. Stanley Ann Dunham, and/or her parents,

    might have felt that an “African”

    identity for baby Obama,

    would be better than “Negro”,

    which was the term at the time.

    After Obama’s birth, Barack Obama Sr.

    went to Harvard and dated other women, before

    returning to his first wife and family in Kenya.

    Ms. Stanley Ann Dunham, during the course of her career, left young

    Obama with her parents in Hawaii for years at a time,

    an act that is more like a half sister than a mother.

    Episode Two:

    Frank Marshall Davis, a Black Communist, and poet, left

    Chicago for Hawaii but he might have stopped over in

    Seattle, Washington for a few weeks, and

    he might be Obama’s real father.

    The Dunham family,

    Stanley and his wife Madelyn, and daughter, Stanley Ann, moved from

    Seattle, Washington to Hawaii late in the summer of 1960

    after she finished high school.

    They might have been trying to

    get her as far away as possible from her “Negro” boyfriend,

    and if they knew she was already pregnant, then they might

    have felt that a “mixed race” baby would be more acceptable

    among Hawaiins with darker skin.

    If Ms. Stanley Ann Dunham became pregnant in Seattle,

    then Obama could have been born earlier than Aug. 4, 1961,

    accounting for Ms. Stanley Ann’s ability to return to college

    in Seattle in August, 1961.

    The first birth certificate that

    Obama released to the public has H.R.S. codes in the

    right hand corner in tiny print that show it was altered and

    or amended. The birthdate may have been altered and/or

    amended so that it would not appear that she was already

    pregnant before her fake marriage to Barack Obama, Sr.

    Episode Three:

    Either Mr. Stanley Dunham or Frank Marshall Davis are

    the most likely men to be the real father of

    President Barack Hussein Obama, but he was shuffled around

    in childhood from Hawaii to Indonesia and back to Hawaii,

    and he is now rootless and ruthless. The only place Obama

    has ever really felt truly at home is in the White House.

    President Obama is running for his second and final term in

    office, and he knows that people will forgive him for waving his

    false flags of amended and/or altered birth certificates showing

    his father was from Kenya, which is not likely to be the truth,

    if only he can bring tears to their eyes.

    After all, many chidren in the United States of America are born

    with family secrets disguising the truth of their real parentage.

    President Obama gets together with his team 2012 advisors

    and dreams up ways to take surveys to determine which

    “father” figure is most likely to get him elected this time.

36. 31 –

    There are “experts” who claim the earth is flat, the moon made of cheese, and that evolution and global warming are lies. Bill Frist, who was a Republican US Senator and an “expert” on medicine because he was a doctor, claimed that Terry Shaivo was not brain dead, and the autopsy revealed later that not only could she not see, her brain had shrunk through the years while her body was kept from decaying by loons such as yourself.

    As I’ve said to Mr. Ed, the one trick pony in 32 above, if you don’t like Obama and/or his policies, give us some reasons and a reasonable candidate to consider as an alternative. Stop wasting our time, however, with this self-delusional fantasy.

    Ooooh! Wait!!! Do you see that? There’s a flying saucer hovering out there about 40 yards above that stone fence.

37. Section 1 of the 14th Amendment states that those born in the United States (and subject to its jurisdiction-thereby excluding those with diplomatic immunity) are citizens. Does not matter whether parents are. Amends the Constitution, including Article II’s “natural born” citizen requirement for president, whatever it initially meant.

38. All anyone has to do is read Emer Vatell’s “Law of Nations” published in 1758 almost thirty years BEFORE the Constitution to understand what the Founders meant by “natural born citizen.” The definition is found in Book I, Chapter XIX, section 212 “Citizens and natives”: http://www.constitution.org/vattel/vattel_01.htm
    “…The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. …The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. …I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.

39. #34
    Thank you again, and yet again and again.
    You give strength to the nbcp

40. “Most of America is too stupid to take this issue seriously.”

    That’s about half right.

41. “Most stupid people in America take this issue too seriously.”

    There, fixed it.

42. #39
    And thank you, too.

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44. TRUEFOE…what better experts can testify than the ones that testified today which showed his proof is a fraud?? You still fail to prove your side as to why he is legally eligible. Where are HIS/YOUR experts TRUEFOE??? Obama has the burden of proof to show he is “eligible” to be on the ballot…he did not, has not and will not. Therefore, it was left to experts showing he is not eligible. What are YOU not understanding here? AGAIN, THIRD TIME I AM ASKING..WHAT IS YOUR BASIS OF BELIEVING HE IS ELIGIBLE????

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46. It’s the lizard people. AGAIN, FOURTH TIME I AM ASKING..WHAT IS YOUR BASIS OF BELIEVING HE IS A DIRIGIBLE????

47. #38 Jeff: The Supreme Court was aware of the quote from Vattel you provided, because they cited it in United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898). That is, they cited it in the dissent.

    The majority of the court did not endorse the Vattel argument. They ruled that Wong Kim Ark, who was born in California to parents both of whom were Chinese subjects and not U.S. citizens, was himself a U.S. citizen by birth.

48. Do you idiots realize how stupid you sound? Georgia has now taken the place of Texas as the laughingstock of the United States. Just keep following that blonde nutbag Tates. You all make the rest of the country look smarter!

49. #48
    Thank you for your participation.

50. Natural Born Citizen Party; You’re very welcome..

51. Chris Strunk will be back in NYS today, let’s all see what the NYSCA (New York State Court of Appeals) can do to build on the Georgia administrative court nbc defense effort.
    Very few cases manage direct appeal to the NYSCA as of right (NY State and US constitutional issue) but it is/will be helpful if in fact a default order / advisory finally comes out of yesterday’s ballot access hearing next week.

52. I have it on good sources that if this effort to disqualify Obama as president, or alternatively to prevent him from being elected, that the money which is going into this effort will then be applied to passing a constitutional amendment to prevent Negroes from holding federal office.

    (Thanks for the info, Julia.)

53. #52
    Thank you helping the discussion.

54. Most people are sheep.

55. And #48 perfect example of an offended sheep. Do your homework and become man and spew info instead of namecalling.

56. [read the last paragraph VERY CAREFULLY]
    That it was the intention of the men who framed the Constitution to provide that no person should be President except those who were naturally a part of this government can hardly be doubted by an examination of documents contemporary with the framing of the Constitution. It was originally proposed in the Constitutional Convention that the presidential qualifications be a “citizen of the United States.” It was so reported to the Convention, by the Committee which had it in charge, on the 22nd day of August, 1787. It was again referred to a Committee, and the qualification clause was changed to read “natural born citizen,” and was so reported out of Committee on September the 4th, 1787, and adopted in the Constitution.
    There is no record of debates upon the subject, but the Federalist contains a contemporary comment on it written by Alexander Hamilton. It reads: “Nothing was more to be desired, than that every practicable obstacle should be opposed to cabal, intrigue, and corruption. These most deadly adversaries of Republican government might naturally have been expected to make their approaches from more than one quarter, but chiefly from the desire in foreign powers to gain an improper ascendant in our councils. How could they better gratify this, than by raising a creature of their own to the chief magistracy (sic) of the Union?”(Federalist, LXVIII.)
    {BTW – Do you know how Alexander Hamilton died?}

57. You know the Huffington Post has an article about all the French presidential candidates not born in France. Hopefully they will stop this horrible trend before a foreigner becomes president of France and the French world ends. But they don’t seem to care. Well, the racists Le Pen supporters might care, but it would take too long to explain who they were to a freedom loving American audience.

58. 53 –

    Your mentor Lee Atwater never wasted his time or his clients’ money on “discussion.”

    This matter is not, and has never been a “discussion.”

    You lost the election. Get over it.

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60. Excellent article. Well reasoned. It certainly looks like we have an unqualified person acting as President.

    This did not happen by “accident”. There are forces acting behind the scenes enabling and furthering their own agenda. Logic leads directly to the forces that “create” our “money”.

    Since 1913, those people have literally stolen our republic from us. They not only “create” our money – with their ill gotten gains they have purchased our entire news media and bribed our government away.

    So who are these people? An earlier commenter wondered why the “Mainstream Media” didn’t report on the Georgia hearing.

    There is no such thing as the “Mainstream Media”. That’s what they wish to be referred to – but those companies are owned by a coordinated group sharing an agenda.

    So who’s responsible?

    It is instructive to note who controls, for example, the U.S. Treasury Department.

    Timothy F. Geithner (Jew) – Secretary of the Treasury
    Neal S. Wolin (Jew) – Deputy Secretary of the Treasury
    Stuart A. Levey (Jew) – Under Secretary for Terrorism and Financial Intelligence
    Alan Krueger (Jew) – Assistant Secretary for Economic Policy
    Michael S. Barr (Jew) – Assistant Secretary for Financial Institutions
    David S. Cohen (Jew) – Assistant Secretary for Terrorist Financing
    Herbert M. Allison, Jr.(White European) – Assistant Secretary for Financial Stability and Counselor to the Secretary

    Of the seven(7) top officials in the U.S. Treasury Department, six (6) are Jews.

    This is a numerical representation of 86%.

    Jews are approximately 2% of the United States population.

    This means that Jews are over-represented among the top officials of the U.S. Treasury Department by a factor of 43 times, or 4,300 percent.

    This extreme numerical over-representation of Jews among the top officials of the U.S. Treasury Department cannot be explained away as a coincidence or as the result of mere random chance.

    You must ask yourself how such an incredibly small and extremely unrepresentative minority ethnic group that only represents 2% of the American population could so completely dominate the U.S. Treasury Department.

    You may want to take a look at other key policy making positions within the government as well – and note who the people are who are holding those positions.

    Our perpetual wars against Israels enemies – where Israel fights using American soldiers are starting to make more sense now…aren’t they?

    Prepare to vomit if you decide to look into the ownership of the various media outlets in the US – or management positions in ALL of the US Federal Reserve system member banks. They’re “kosher”.

    So is it “anti-semitic” to state facts?

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