On June 21, the Michigan Green Party and the Lavender Caucus of the Green Party chose delegates to the national convention. The results boosted Howie Hawkins. According to his campaign, he now has enough pledged delegates to be assured of the presidential nomination.
Interesting that the Green party makes delegates pledge to support a candidate while the LP has all of their delegates unbound. I guess Howie, with his larger machine is going to be the nominee
Ok. Here it comes. The GP ticket nomination.
Will the GP delegates choose the PLAS strategy, then a PLAS ticket awnd go on to WIN the election? By a close three way plurality?
Or, OR… not choose PLAS i.e. politics as usual, and be compelled to scurry over the cliff like lemmings and choose Howie and LOOSE?
Congratulations to Howie Hawkins and his campaign. Hopefully he will make it onto the ballot in most states.
Unless Howie surprises us all and declares support for PLAS.
But then in order to demonstrate that he understands what he is talking about, he would have to dump Walker and find a libertarian for vp, preferably a woman, preferably Jo Jorgensen.
If he accomplishes this, which I have tried and failed for many years, he will be a bona fide PLAS candidate. I would support him. Including my inheritance which I am getting in July. About $40k.
Otherwise I’m not contributing a dime more. Because the ticket will surely loose. Accomplish very little. Certainly not worth me investing in. I have a longstanding opportunity to go to CA and a gold mine with a friend or two or three. And learn welding on the side. I’d feel a lot better in investing in that. Than a loosing ticket and a bunch of losing pinkos.
Greatest American Ever.
And let’s be clear. I-I am the formulator of PLAS over the years. One of VERY few who have supported PLAS, I named PLAS. Therefore I am to be consider an if not THE authority on PLAS.
If Howie declares himself a supporter of PLAS he SHOULD have or be REQUIRED to have, my endorsement of any aspect of strategy in the PLAS ticket and campaign.
So he should AT LEAST approach me with a request to advise him on PLAS.
I have not received such a request from ANYONE.
VERY few if ANY.
I do not think I can name any one specifically and say he or she is a supporter of PLAS.
Robert thinks they’re going to get some sort of favorable response from us Green by calling us “pinkos”. That’s like trying to get support from a Libertarian by calling them a fascist.
Good luck. lol.
Who is they? He already told you it’s just him.
Joshua,
What do you mean by “…us…” Green (sic)?
I am a Green. Yes, a member of the Green party. Have been for quite some time.
How do you explain that, Josh?
Are you just “joshing” me?
BTW, I would have no problem calling Barr/Root fascists.
One more under 1.00 pct Prez candidate in 2020 ???
Condorcet- around since 1780s – repeat 1780s.
C was murdered in the French Revolution by the killer mobsters – since he had some math brain cells.
The New Age Super- DARK AGE is quite imminent with senile MORONS Biden or Trump in 2021.
More minority rule gerrymander regimes.
More party HACK execs/judics.
More FATAL SOP violations.
Lax membership standards? Shocking that the greens accept member’s who support the synagogue shooter.
Folks, I know enough about Robert. Just don’t feed him.
I personally am a “watermelon Green,” but I too see “pinko” as a pejorative.
Interesting on the Lavender Caucus breaking Howie. We’ll see how this plays out at convention re the Georgia GP and other things.
How about pinko losers? Is that pejorative?
Socratic Gadfly,
You bug me. I do not know you; never met you. How much do you know about me? After all, you banned me from commenting on your red fascist website. So the best you know of me with any reliability is what I have written/published. Otherwise it is second hand heresay.
Yes, everyone. The same person who formulated PLAS,
formulated subsequently Top Ten/Six.
Formulated the definitive affirmative defense for the Pittsburgh Shooter.
Formulated a proposal-Sinai proposal, for what to do about the jews should the US District Court rule in favor of the Pittsburgh shooter and/or the United Nations rescind the resolutions that partitioned Palestine.
That’s right, ME.
Go figure.
That all said, the Howie haters are out in force on the GP Facebook group. (Not sure if Mr. Burch is a general purpose Howie-hater, a Dario-stanner or what.)
https://www.facebook.com/groups/GreenPartyUS/permalink/10157607014050748/
Gadfly,
I registered for the convention. And donated to the Solidarity fund. Have you?
I offered a significant donation, about $0K to a Green PLAS ticket/campaign.
Have you?
I have emailed the pnc -presidential nominating committee, asking to address the convention-FIRST.
Have you?
What exactly have you done for the Green party besides red fascist censorship of Bob Milnes?
correction: about 40k. above.
Sorry about the typo.
In a way, I have been a Howie Hater for some time.
I had communications with him years ago.
Let’s just say he seemed to me to be quite nasty.
I ceased my communication with him.
Top Ten/Six aka: Level the Playing Field.
Gadfly,
Whatever happened to Howie’s campaign manager, Kevin Zeese?
I have mentioned Zeese/Jorgensen.
Also Richardson/Jorgensen.
And Milnes/Jorgensen.
As possible fusion tickets.
These are my picks. Of course there are many more possible.
Milnes, please stop spamming. You are worse than Ogle.
Richard, please do something about this.
I beg your pardon, paulie?
I do not believe my comments are spa,.
But YOUR comments are cyber abuse.
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/nation/2020/06/21/george-soros-conspiracy-theories-surge-protests-sweep-us/111992956/
ANY Soros $$$ cash for the usual suspect BAN spammers ???
I have nothing to do with Soros.
My above comment seems to be partially cut off.
I was saying that I had communications with Howie many years ago.
He seemed to me to be a rather nasty sort.
So I stopped communicating with him.
I just do not need the negative vibes.
Someone posted something about Soros cash for spammers and milnes piped up to deny a Soros connection. Sounds like he just acknowledged he’s a spammer.
I was accused of being a spammer by an anonymous pussy which I refute.
I just to make sure there is no uncertainty stated for the record that I have nothing to do with Soros.
What made you think Thomas was talking about you?
Now let me level some accusations.
I have followed IPR since the beginning.
I noticed Howie and Vermin Supreme had a lot of backing in IPR right from the beginning of the election cycle. Supreme then Cohen was backed by paulie in Warren Solomon Redlich’s rag.
Supreme was the obvious hobo/clown candidate designed to get the nomination and “spike” it i.e. keep someone else from it who just might win. A PLAS ticket.
However Jo Jorgensen beat out Vermin but got saddled with Spike.
All the while MY campaign is being suppressed by the powers that be.
Howie was getting regular free publicity in IPR posted by Kevin Zeese. Now Kevin has evidently disappeared but Howie has won the nomination.
I say the powers that be put the fix in for Howie and a non fusion ticket.
Is it a coincidence that Howie and I are remarkably similar?
We could be fraternal twins or clones.
So the Bob Milnes ringer wins the GP nomination and keeps him from it.
i.e. a guaranteed loser gets the nomination from a very possible winner.
So I wonder what the powers that be have on Howie that he would be part of such a scheme.
Or he is a dupe.
Which is it, Howie?
He’s your secret twin. It’s all part of a plot to stop plas that was hatched by evil Jews before you were even born.
Too many paranoid spammers to count-
who can NOT detect the difference between general comments/questions vs specific comments/questions ???
Part of the New Age of trolls/spammers.
Demo Rep is more of a troll than a spammer.
Demo rep,
I think most of the anonymous comments on any thread I post on like this one are paulie cyberbullying me.
Doesn’t bother me.
Water off a duck’s back.
Epic battle of trolls and spammers. Stay tuned, or not.
Epic battle of trolls and spammers?
Not really.
No spammers here.
Only one troll. paulie.
Trolls and spammers. Like demo rep and milnes.
What about oogle and Egyptian Andy?
Oh yeah, them too.
The ever changing name thing = Troll in Chief = TIC HEAD.
You seem to stick to one fake name Thomas, yet you are the troll in chief.
So, that’s Demo Crap’s real name? Anybody got a last name for Thomas? That’s not the Thomas Jones that Richard references occasionally, is it?
It is.
J.O. Ogle and Andy have not posted on this thread.
No Egyptian God either.
Maybe they are bored, like me.
And who is this red fascist gadfly person?
Goes to IPR, takes a little dump (comments),
comes to BAN, takes a little dump (comments), goes to his website,
takes a dump.
What excellent bowels you have!
But… I can’t do that.
I have been banned from commenting at IPR. And gadfly’s website.
On what ground was I banned from commenting at your website, Gadfly?
Explain it to the commenting community, would you be so kind?
Demo Crap,
Come back here and take another dump.
This red fascist gadfly seems very attracted to your comments.
Fascinated. Obsessed.
Gadfly, why did you ban my dumps at your crap website?
Richard loves Thomas Jones (Demo Rep) for some bizarre reason, that’s why he’s allowed to troll and spam endlessly. Apparently he likes Milnes too as he also spams constantly. It makes this website hard to enjoy.
For some odd reason masturbating on front of his tv is not enough for milnes, he feels an additional need to share in multiple places.
Maybe when he gets his inheritance he can finally go goldmine.
Richard must love paulie too.
Lets him dump all over BAN.
William Saturn tried twice to get me unbanned at IPR.
But Warren Solomon Redlich, owner, decided no.
It was better to have paulie there, no Bob Milnes.
paulie banned Andy too.
I actually found Andy to be a highly informed person,
especially about libertarianism, the LP and petitioning
for ballot access, Richard’s bailiwick.
The only troll here is paulie.
So, what if the GP AND L[p both have ballot access problems?
Particularly this year with Covid?
They COULD help each other to get full ballot access by mixing and matching …
IF they had the SAME ticket!
Then they could get on ALL ballots 50/50.
AND maximize their vote! And win in a close three way plurality 42/29/29/.
=PLAS!
But NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Politics as usual.
Everybody lose again.
Hold your nose and vote for Trumptard or Very Old Sleepy Joe.
Or do like Bolton “pray for a miracle” in interview with CBS Norah O’Donnell.
Or don’t vote at all.
Andy and Egyptian God.
Missing?
Perhaps Andy is working on a petition drive.
I don’t think anyone except Robert really misses Egyptian Andy.
Socratic Gadfly and paulie are getting coochie coo on the Howie Hawkins thread at IPR.
I miss Egyptian AND Andy.
Andy panned paulie like a cast iron upside the head! LOL!
Egyptian Citizen Norman seems PAN sexual! LOL!
Andy are you too busy to comment/crap for Gadfly with a petition drive?
Or has the Mossad kidnapped you?
I am still here. I have not commented much lately because a) I have been busy, and b) there has not been much of interest for me to comment.
I do not know who “Egyptian God” is, but I have some theories about who it might be.
Andy, glad the Mossad has not got to you.
What about the recent Court of Appeals and Denials decision upholding corrupt CPD? Wasn’t that interesting to you?
Where is New Federalist?
I see he is commenting at IPR. What about here at BAN?
He is the one that suggested I start commenting here a few months ago!
Own it, NF!
Andy, what is your opinion about ballot petitioning?
Is it dead in the water?
Will the GP and/or LP get full ballot access this election?
Petitioning is fine, slightly harder than other years but not by much. LP will probably have full ballot access. GP probably won’t. The better ballot access going in to 2020, incremental improvements in state laws and varying degrees of petition relief from different states have more than made up for the slightly harder petitioning for the LP.
Thank you paulie.
Are you hallucinating? I don’t know who that guy is but he must have really traumatized you for life once he got inside you. I’m Egyptian Andy. Not whoever is haunting your imagination.
Andy doesn’t call himself Egyptian Andy or anything else Andy.
The previous Andy I wonder if that was you too, paulie.
In that case Andy and Egyptian God are still “missing”.
Mossad shut them up?
AS they wee on your list?
I know Andy outpenned you; I saw it unfold here in real time.
And the previous Andy did not have the “Andy Tell” i.e. correcting typo immediately in next comment.
I call myself Egyptian Andy. I don’t care what any other Andy calls himself. I am Egyptian Andy, and only Egyptian Andy. There is no Egyptian Andy except me, the one true Egyptian Andy. Like all Egyptians, I believe Mossad and the rest of the Jews should be conquered and enslaved.
I am the one, true and perfect Egyptian Andy. You are not worthy.
paulie = Zionist sociopath.
That goes without saying. All zionists are sociopaths. They must be conquered and enslaved.
Robert, “Egyptian Andy” does sound like Paul. It sounds like he may have forgotten he was using the “Egyptian Andy” name and he inadvertantly answered a question about petitioning.
Nobody sounds like me. I am on a whole different level. Comparing one of you mortals to me is blasphemy.
Andy.
Agreed.
I played him.
He is well informed and advertises that for a lot of reasons.
So I figured he could not resist answering a question about petitioning.
paulie = egotistic narcissist.
Being a god, naturally I am omniscient. You have only played yourself, and you are the one being played.
Andy,
Did you hear about the jewish man in Allentown, PA, who blew himself up in his car with his four year old son and a neighbor? About a year ago.
I notice that “Egyptian Andy” has stolen avatars/pictures from other posters, likely to try to throw us off who he really is, which is probably Paul. It looks like he swiped William Saturn and I believe Shawn Lavasseur’s (sp?) pictures.
Robert, I did not hear anything about this incident in Allentown of which you speak.
September 29, 2018. Allentown, PA. Jacob Schmoyer, 26. Jonathan Schmoyer, 2. David Hallman, 66.
ATF held a press conference on October 4. Investigation showed Schmoyer lured Hallman into passenger’s seat. 2 seconds later huge explosion. Videotape. Jonathan was in back seat.
So you did not hear about this?
I was hoping you did.
Who is Shawn Lavasseur? Name sounds familiar.
This is a very unusual and interesting occurrence.
A jew using a car bomb?
Using a bomb for suicide?
For murder of a fellow jew?
Allentown is only about 60 miles from Philadelphia.
Was the WHOLE truth revealed at the press conference?
Did the ATF investigation find out the whole truth?
Was Schmoyer a Mossad operative?
Was Hillman his handler?
Much like making you think I am whoever I want you to think I am, like this Paulie or whoever, it was all aimed at messing with you. Remember, there are no coincidences and just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean we’re not after you.
Roses are red
Violets are blue
You’re a schizophrenic
And so are you
You two are so dumb, I can even tell you what I’m doing and you still will keep falling for it. I wish my handlers would give me a more interesting assignment, you gullible dolts are boring me past years.
Should read, past tears.
Curses! Foiled again!
These are all deversion and subversion tactics being used by the troll, or trolls, above.
We already know that Paul is one of the trolls. The questions are, a) who are the others, and b) is he working with any of them, and c) if he is working with any of them, through what network or affiliation.
I am whoever you say I am.
And if I wasn’t then why would I say I am?
Schmoyer had a history of somewhat petty crimes. Also he had a penchant for bombmaking. What if the Mossad found out he was suicidal? Kind of like the Saudi Intelligence found 20 religious zealots eager to strike at the Great Satan,
the USA? So they recruited Schmoyer to attack a target within range? Why Schmoyer, a jew? Maybe because they tried to recruit an Arab jihadist but they all refused because they did not want to attack that particular target? Remember the Arab who attacked the Pulse Club had a personal vendetta against LGBTQ. But poor schmuck Schmoyer also didn’t want to attack that particular target. So he pulls an about face and attacks his handler/tormenter instead?
What if?
Any readers have any opinions on this hypothetical scenario?
Vince,
That is difficult because these intelligence agencies operate secretly.
Especially the Mossad.
Keep digging, you are on the right track. We’re pulling for you.
“Egyptian Citizen Norman seems PAN sexual!”
Well I, Egyptian God Lazarus Mudd, reject these labels. And Nathan Norman is straight.
Some of you are misinformed.
The study linked below shows that both straight and gay males become equally aroused at images of penises. So let’s be real.
https://www.smh.com.au/technology/our-sexual-desires-exposed-by-neuroscientists-porn-study-20110621-1gcol.html
You’re the straightest dude of all straight dudes, and Milnes is the greatest genius of all time.
Hawkins is the best.
Egyptian God Lazarus Mudd,
Thank you for making an appearance in this thread.
Better late than never-kidnapped by the Mossad.
Please take a crap before leaving as sample for Socratic Gadfly.
Hawkins is the best…what?
New Federalist,
I see on IPR comments that you are on the PA State Senate Ballot for the LP?
Come here and tell us about it!
And leave a crap sample for Socratic Gadfly.
NF,
Coincidentally, are you anywhere near Allentown, PA.
Ever heard of the Schmoyer murder/suicide by car bomb there?
How about Pittsburgh?
You must have heard of that case.
Hawkins is the best masturbator. Better than Milnes.
Hawkins is the best pinko loser.
I bet his bowel movements are bigger than Milnes’ too.
Unless he declares his support for PLAS, he will surely lose. By a LOT. Not even close.
Anyone think I am wrong on this?
Howie Hawkins will be elected president in November because he rejects PLAS. PLAS is a loser. PLAS is shit.
PLAS is by far the worst political strategy ever. A team of monkeys could put together a better plan. It also has a stupid name. The creator of it should be ashamed.
Nobody who knows anything about American politics thinks Howie will win in November.
paulie, if this is the best disinformation you got, you are overpaid!
He’ll lose with or without plas, and plas will lose at even getting anyone to seriously consider trying it. He won’t win the presidency but he’ll win the nomination. You will win nothing. That’s not going to change this year or in any future year.
The GP delegates COULD adopt PLAS.
Then demand candidates declare that they accept PLAS before the nomination.
If Howie refuses, he’s out of consideration.
If he accepts PLAS, he gets the nomination on the first round.
Then he will have to dump Walker for Jorgensen.
Then they will have to get Jorgensen on board.
They could, but they won’t. Not this year or any other year.