On April 14, the U.S. House Oversight and Reform Committee passed HR 51, which makes most of D.C. a state. The part of D.C. that would not be inside the new state consists of the White House, the Capitol, the U.S. Supreme Court Building, the Mall, and a few other federal buildings.
RED COMMIE Gerrymander PACK the USA Senate/H Reps more —
to go with the RED commie packing of SCOTUS.
While expanding the court makes sense for many completely nonpartisan reasons such as increased number of cases and circuits, it’s dead on arrival in the senate.
DC statehood is something that the Green Party has long supported out of principle. The Democrats are just now starting to support it because doing so would help maintain their grip on power.
Likewise with the DC Statehood bill. Good idea, doa in Senate.
https://www.uniteamerica.org/reports/the-primary-problem
MAJOR report blasting current partisan primaries – has pdf link
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Ugggg! This would mean more leftists in Congress who’d vote for more socialism and more gun control.
How about make DC a separate country?
I might be OK with it if they also agree to break off northern Oregon and southern Washington (was part of Idaho involved with that movement?), as well as northern California (state of Jefferson), and split up some other parts of Cali into new states as well. Be careful what you wish for.
@Jeff Becker We need an amendment that mandates the break up any state whose population goes over 12 million. And a lower threshold for statehood of a population of 1 million. Territories should get voting seats in the house but not in the senate.
@JB:
Keep it simple:
Ask for East Washington to become a new state with DC.
Ask for East Oregon to become a new state with PR.
@ Aiden:
Keep it simple;
Just have an unwritten rule that any state with +5% of the total US population be recommended for break up into smaller states.
By this rule, CA & TX could become 3-4 new states each, and FL & NY could become 2-3 new state each. A careful division of those states should be able to maintain a close 50-50 red-blue US Senate
More leftists in congress voting for more socialism and gun control would be a good thing. Unfortunately, it won’t happen. Instead, we’ll get more plutocracy, social repression, mixing church and state, militarized police, official and unofficial racism, fascist insurrectionists, criminal injustice and law enfarcement. Gross.
If gun rights are lost, or restricted to the point of being useless, there will be no chance of having a libertarian, or libertarian leaning, society.
We don’t need any more Republican states. Republicans are disproportionately represented in the senate and electoral college as it is. Thanks to that they have been able to pack the courts with far more far right judges and justices than their share of the vote dictates. Those courts have ruled that partisan gerrymandering is aok. And that has led to Republicans gerrymandering themselves an advantage in state legislatures and therefore also in the US House.
It’s a self perpetrated system of minority rule that’s very similar to the racist apartheid system that used to exist in South Africa and Rhodesia. And it likewise has its roots in slavery and segregation in the US. So does the filibuster, the war on drugs, militarized policing, racist law enforcement, the school to prison pipeline, the filibuster, and lots of other things. It adds up to a web of racism, sexism and other bigotry that underlies the entire system of power.
What we need are real solutions like making DC and Puerto Rico states. Ending the filibuster. Abolishing the police and ICE. Ending the drug war. Abortion on demand and without apology, publicly paid for everyone along with medicine, housing, transportation, child care, food, equal schooling, AND all basic needs. A universal basic income. REPARATIONS. Real gun control and a $20 an hour living wage. We need real action on global warming climate crisis, term limits for the courts. We need wealth taxes and stock trade taxes.
Are the Democrats going to do any of this? No, they will just roll over and be submissive to the fascist Republicans like usual, while suppressing the Green and Socialist parties.
Is “Taran” Paul?
We need a socialist society. Not capitalist “libertarian,” a word they stole just like capitalists have always stolen worker’s labor, people’s lives through slavery and wage slavery, whole countries through imperialism and colonialism. Nothing new there.
Um who? To hell with racist Ron and Rand Paul. Ralph Nader is much better.
Take your right wing, racist BS and choke on it. Real justice would we a communist worker’s revolution and putting you to work on a gulag prison farm for the rest of your life to pay REPARATIONS to the descendants of slaves, the indigenous etc.
LOL! The Paul who posted here and at IPR for many years.
I don’t understand your stupid abbreviations or who your talking about. Capitalist incels like you need to be whipped through the streets before being pushed down a mine shaft. The best thing we could do for this planet would be to sterilize caucasoid males at birth. Capitalism is raping mother Earth to death, it’s a suicidal death cult created by patriarchal European culture and spread world wide along with the evil Abrahamic religions that teach dominating women and nature. The Europeans have hunted African wildlife and they have hunted and killed African men and women for centuries. Now they should be the ones to be hunted to equal the scales of justice.
Instead of statehood, DC should be returned to Maryland.
Good idea.
Or maybe European descendants should be returned to Europe? Or better yet. TO THE MOON. OR MARS. To hell with the blue eyed cave dwelling edomite grafted devils.
Anyone else suspecting “Taran” of being Paul?
Is Andy suppose to be the Andy from “Amos and Andy “?
Anyone else suspect “Andy” of being a whit2e supremacist neonazi neoconfederate ?
Taran – one more RED commie shill moron from Hell — with now standard commie bullet points —
and bullets for non-commies.
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https://www.scotusblog.com/2021/04/bill-to-enlarge-the-supreme-court-faces-dim-prospects-in-congress/
RED commie Donkeys – pack SCOTUS bill.
Oh look, Andy is now calling itself demo rep.
Andy is a direct descendant of Adolf Hitler who is posting from a Nazi UFO bunker in an Antarctica ice cave.
Demo, look up. At 12:15
12:13 actually.
Getting censored repeatedly like a Palestinian.
Socialism has produced many of the world’s worst mass murderers (Joe Stalin, Adolf Hitler, Mao Tse-Tung, et al). It also doesn’t work.
Capitalism has produced many of the world’s worst mass murderers (Dick Cheney, Margaret Thatcher, Benjamin Netenyahu, et al). It also doesn’t work.
What allegedly *works* ???
Some utopia regime in a Star Trek series/movie ???
The Scandinavian countries are where people are happiest. They’re a mix of socialism and capitalism.
Our Madisonian Constitution is not based on simple majority rule. As Madison pointed out in Federalist 10, the Constitutional system is designed to distribute power broadly thru divided sovereignty, separation of powers, bicameralism and checks and balances to ensure that no one party or person has total control of all the sources of power. Decision making is meant to be a process of consensus building.
ALL 3 election systems in the de facto DEAD USA Const are EVIL and VICIOUS ANTI-Democracy minority rule gerrymander systems.
USA H Reps – esp the 1 Rep minimum
USA Senate – 2 Sens per State – regardless of pops/voters numbers
USA EC – combo HR/S rot — with add-on DC rot – 23 Amdt
1/2 x 1/2 = 1/4 CONTROL
— with super-worse primary math.
Various FATAL SOP violations.
Brit ROT carried into 1600s-1700s Brit colonies – later 1775-1776 States – later 1789 USA.
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@ Demo Rep
It’s a wonder that our Constitution has survived as long as it has. Could be those “anti-democratic” elements keep the system in equilibrium. Check our Aristotle’s Politics. He says each form of government, democracy, aristocracy and monarchy have strengths and weaknesses, and that the best form of government is a combination of all three forms because a mixed system checks the weaknesses of any one form.
In a sense, our Madisionian Constitution fulfills the requirements of Aristotle’s mixed system. The House of Representatives is the democratic element, the Senate and the courts are the aristocratic element, and the President is the monarchic element.
Madison and Aristotle belong in the past. The slavery system and capitalism belong in the past. Only democracy and socialism or ideally communism belongs in the future.
Through gerrymandering the house and the legislatures have also become aristocratic.
@ Cesar:
We have seen that “future” and it isn’t pretty.
Where have you seen it, in capitalist propaganda?
@ Cesar:
The history of the last 100 years seems to have eluded you. Ever hear of the USSR, PRC, Cuba or Venezuela?
I’ve been to all of them, and spent months or years in each. Have you? What do you base your supposed knowledge of them on other than capitalist lies and propaganda?
It only seems sensible that if Congress votes to again reduce the size of the District of Columbia, it should (for historical purposes) make it 1,776 acres, less than 3 square miles. No one should live within the boundaries & the City of Washington be transferred intact to the State of Maryland operating under the same rules politically as the City of Baltimore. Maryland’s Congressional delegation would than increase by 1 seat in the next re-apportionment.
Neither Maryland nor D.C. residents want that.
@ Cesar:
What capitalist lies?
@ Deemer and Gabriel:
Another option is to add neighboring counties from MD and/or VA to the new State of Columbia.
Adding counties from VA to the new state might make VA more red.
WZ —
Blame the rotted monarch/oligarch Brits for the nonstop monarch/oligarch R-O-T in the USA since 1776.
1066 – Norman killer gang invades olde Anglo-Saxon England–
killer monarch with his top gangsters take over — become the Lords.
House of *Lords* and appointed judges.
1200s — Gerrymander formation of olde English House of Commons.
Many top Lords killed off in 100 years War with France and later Civil War of the Roses – 1300s-1400s.
Purge of Catholics in 1500s – King Henry 8 regime
1642-1649 English Civil War — killer king Charles I vs Parliament.
Parliament barely wins. KCI loses head.
1688 King James II tries takeover. Fails. Flees.
1689 English Bill of Rights.
Parliament hacks in control.
TOTAL tyranny in the 2 world wars – See 1914 and 1939 Defense of the Realm Acts.
Still NOOO written const in UK.
NOOO body’s life, liberty or property is *safe*.
The capitalist lies about how what we have seen of the socialist future “isn’t pretty.”
Again, the people of D.C., Maryland and Virginia don’t want that either. Why do you feel a need to tell them what state they should be in?
Repeal 23 Amdt-
Make DC a part of MD for Fed election purposes.
DC City Council ==== State legislature – except for USA Const Amdts.
Do you have a reading comprehension problem?
@ Gabriel
Without a compromise, a stand-alone bill for DC is a non-starter.
The easier compromise would be to make eastern Washington a new state as well.
OS G a mind reader of all human brains in DC and MD ???
Is G a mind reader of all human brains in DC and MD ???
It’s a nonstarter for now, but we only need a couple more Democratic senators to get rid of the filibuster and add Columbia as a state. This would not face the issues in state legislatures that any of your other proposals would.
Mind reading isn’t required. Anyone who has lived in the area knows that the vast majority of people in D.C., Maryland and Virginia oppose any addition of D.C. to Maryland or parts of Maryland and Virginia to D.C.
Scandinavian countries have the best system. It’s why they have the happiest people. People aren’t happy when there’s too much capitalism like in the USA or too much socialism like in North Korea. We need a mix that’s just right, something like Denmark.
@ Gabriel
I predict that if the Democrats squeeze thru a DC statehood bill on a thin majority, that there will be an increase in movements for new states, just waiting for a small change in the future composition of Congress – not unthinkable in 2022.
IMO, A more rational and controlled approach to this development is a deliberate attempt at a compromise.
@ Kurt:
Actually, Switzerland has the best system. A highly decentralized constituion, with a joint executive, and consensus building politics. And a strong liberal, free trade, capitalist economy.
It’s a lie that people are not happy in North Korea.
North Korea has the best system.
LOL @ the “North Korea has the best system” comments!
Those lists of countries that put the happiest people in Scandanavia are such a crock. There is a cultural bias to always say that they are happy. There is a better way to measure actual happiness:
Denmark has the same suicide rate as the Congo.
Norway has a higher suicide rate than Yemen.
Sweden has the same suicide rate as the United States.
Finland has a higher suicide rate than North Korea.
And it’s not Switzerland, either. Switzerland has a higher suicide rate than Rwanda.
All of those countries are in the higher half of the world ranking.
The actual happiest countries on earth: Barbados, Antigua, the Bahamas, Grenada, and Jamaica. No one ever tries to kill themselves there.
Which regimes have the top domestic or foreign killers – esp in govt committees/groups ???
USA Prez, Russia Putin, China Xi, etc. ???
LOL!