Two News Stories on Ohio Supreme Court decision

Richard Winger blogged yesterday about Friday’s Ohio Supreme Court ruling allowing August 8, 2023 to be the date for a statewide election on amending the Ohio Constitution to require a 60% “Yes” vote on future proposed amendments to the Ohio Constitution to pass. There are other provisions that are part of the package to be voted on that will make it much harder to amend the Ohio Constitution and that are clearly designed to cement power in the state with the state legislature, which is currently dominated by the Republican Party.

Here are two news stories on this development:

https://ohiocapitaljournal.com/2023/06/16/in-split-decision-ohio-supreme-court-allows-aug-8-election-to-go-

https://reviewtimes.com/news/465354/high-court-clears-august-election-in-ohio/


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Two News Stories on Ohio Supreme Court decision — 28 Comments

  1. 40 PCT + 1 = MINORITY RULE — SEE THE ROTTED USA SENATE

    MINORITY RULE INSIDE MINORITY RULE

    P-A-T

  2. People are afraid of minority rule (the power to block the majority).
    People are afraid of majority rule (the power to overrun minorities).
    What do you do?

    The requirement to amend the US Constitution is not a simple majority, not even 60%, not even a single vote. The idea is that the highest law in the land shouldn’t be able to be changed as easily as subordinate laws.

  3. Too much complexity. The highest law of any land is the Holy Bible. It can’t be amended. The next highest level of government should be the military.

    All other aspects of federal or national level are unneeded, superfluous, or more likely counterproductive. They would be better handled by means other than government.

    The military has its own code of justice. Not the same in each nation, but usually similar (mea culpa: I’ve not compared enough of them to say this with certainty, but it seems highly likely). I see no reason for civilian jurisdiction over military, or vice versa.

    Local areas should have their own separate written laws, short and simple enough to memorize and understand, and very difficult but not impossible to change.

    Below that, informal rules and suggestions which don’t carry the force of law, but are ultimately backed up by the law as a final arbiter or court of last resort. Despite being voluntary they would hold a lot of weight, because of that last part. No one will want to meet a peacekeeper in that official capacity.

  4. BIBLE- THOU SHALL NOT KILL

    MILITARY – FOLLOW KILLER LEADERS ORDERS — KILL 24/7/365

    SEE KILLER PUTIN IN UKRAINE AND PUPPET RUSSIAN O. CHURCH

  5. Thou shall not murder, not thou shall not kill. The latter is a bad translation. Otherwise, defensive wars would not be allowed, and no country could withstand foreign attack. No revolution against tyranny would be permitted, including yours. No one could kill a criminal in self defense, no bystander or would be victim or officer or anyone else could stop an active shooter, no mass murderer could be executed, etc, etc – clearly not the code of conduct expected by God of the leaders of Biblical Israel or any others. Anyone capable of logic would realize the commandment is to not murder, not to not kill.

    The military is entrusted to protect the nation. Every nation has to protect itself and it’s people. God tells us to protect our nation’s in the Bible.

    Putin is defending the lives of Russians in Donbass and Crimea and other areas where Russians are the majority, which were administratively made part of Ukraine by Stalin, or in the case of Crimea by Khrushchev. They were never part of any independent Ukrainian nation before that, and not even part of any Ukrainian administrative area.

    What is today Western Ukraine was never part of anything called Ukraine before the Great Patriotic War (what you call WWII – AZ would have had us not kill Nazi invaders, because of his ignorant misreading of a mistranslated biblical commandment; perhaps he thinks Hitler was as peaceful as Trump). These areas were part of Poland during its interwar independence, or the Austro-Hungarian empire, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Romania, etc.

    The independent Ukrainian nation existed briefly in the early 1920s, and since the 1990s. Since the 1990s Ukraine has been one of the most corrupt regimes in the world. In 2014 they overthrew an elected President and installed a regime of neonazi fascists, Jewish Supremacists, and NATO/EU foreign agents working together corruptly to ethnically cleanse and oppress Russian residents of their occupied territories, oppress people of all ethnicities including their own, and live off foreign bribes.

    Ukraine was never even an administrative region in Czarist Russia. It was the heart of Russia before Moscow. Even in the 19th century it was considered Little Russia and New Russia. The Ukrainian ethnicity and nation are basically a 20th century invention, with no significant history of independence before 1991. The Ukrainian language is essentially a local Russian dialect, exaggerated and forced to develop as a separate language by fascist separatists. It’s not even spoken by the majority in many parts of so called Ukraine, but Russian is spoken by everyone there.

    Please, stop your ignorance about my country, President, and church. You can’t even tell which of your own Presidents is a Chinese Communist quisling puppet and marionette, and which was and is nothing like Hitler. You can’t tell if you’re God or not. You think your American government is a monarchy. You can’t tell the difference between kill and murder. When your addled mind crosses the great oceans, it becomes even more confused. You should keep it at home and try to understand your own continent better before attempting to tackle Europe, as our history is significantly more complex.

  6. I think AZ suffers from megalomaniacal delusions of grandeur and persecution.

  7. VERY GOOD LUCK IN GETTING THE 10 COMMANDMENTS AMENDED.

    MONGOLS CAME INTO RUSSIA IN 1200S —
    FOLKS WITH BRAINS WERE KILLED/MURDERED

    LEAVING KILLER/MURDERER STONE AGE MONARCH/OLIGARCH RETARDS IN CONTROL SINCE.

  8. You are the only one attempting to amend the commandments. Try to explain how the mistranslation kill when it actually says murder makes sense in light of the rest of Exodus, much less the other chapters. Not logically, historically, or even linguistically, but why even go there? Logic and history alone are enough to render it laughable.

    Your bigotry against Russian people aside, your attack makes no logical sense. The stupidest people are always the ones most likely to die in an invasion or any type of disaster or situation where a large portion of the population dies. It’s a sort of practical intelligence test, and while some deaths are random, others are the equivalent of demonstrating greater ability at escaping traps, etc.

    At any rate, we eventually outsmarted the Mongol invaders. We beat back Napoleon and Hitler, which the rest of Europe put together couldn’t do. We became a great Empire, and once that was destroyed we became a global superpower. When that fell due to economic incompetence, we rise up and are now becoming a preeminent global power once again.

    Certainly, noted genius AZ has plenty of room to look down intellectually on Dostoevsky, Pushkin, Tolstoy, Chekhov, Tchaikovsky, Rachmaninoff, Solzhenitsyn, Kalashnikov, Lomonosov, Lermontov, Gogol, Turgenev, Stravinsky, Shostakovich, Mendeleev, etc. Also, in topsy turvy crAZy world, perhaps it’s Vladimir Putin who is ducking Joseph Biden’s challenge to a public debate due to justified fear of absolute embarrassment and humiliation on a global stage, and not the other way around.

  9. MAX-
    SEND YOUR TRANSLATIONS TO VATICAN CITY IN ITALY.

    HOW MANY RUSSIAN CZARS WERE STONE COLD KILLERS —

    KILL/MURDER ALL OPPONENTS ???

    CZAR – RUSSIAN TRANSLATION OF OLDE ROMAN CAESARS ???

    ESP LATER TOTAL KILLER/MURDERER EMPERORS – LIKE NERO, ETC.

  10. AZ think the Vacitan City is in Italy. It’s actually a separate nation. What a moron.

  11. Why? Western Catholicism is heresy. The Russian Orthodox Patriarchs of Moscow, the Third Rome, are the legitimate successors of Constantinople, the second Rome. The original Rome and its satanic Vatican has been a travesty and mockery of Christ since the East West schism in the 11th century. Even before that, the true Christian leadership was in Constantinople since the 4th century.

    Before that it was illegal throughout the Roman empire. 4 of 5 patriarchates of the early Christians were in the East. Rome was an afterthought, and later (but by now still long ago) openly apostate. Roman “Christianity” is heretic apostasy. After the fall of Constantinople to Mohammetan turks, Christian leadership passed to Moscow, and remains here now.

    In any case, the commandment predates Christianity, thus the idea that it requires papist interpretation is inherently nonsensical. For Hebrew language and biblical context see

    https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/bloodguilt

    This shouldn’t have been necessary, but given crAZy AZz notable difficulties with logic and history (he thinks the biggest difference between Trump and Hitler is that Hitler was in jail), it was predictable that linguistic context would have to be attached. As the final paragraph at the link shows, no bloodguilt is incurred by homicide in self-defense, judicial execution, and war.

  12. Good catch, Kurt. It’s a separate country surrounded by Italy on all sides. In the scale of AZ whoppers, that’s minor. Even in that one particular idiotic comment of many, the bigger idiocy is the idea that some pedophile communist “pope” can overwrite the plain meaning of the Old Testament and its historic context and logic. Even the legitimate leader of Christianity, the Orthodox Patriarch Kiril of Moscow, is not the ultimate authority on the meaning of the Old Testament, since it is not exclusive to Christianity. The apostate heretic Roman popes, all the less so.

  13. The old testament makes it clear that the commandment is against murder and not against any killing of humans. Crimes which the Old Testament says deserve a death penalty include

    Murder – Exodus 21:12, Leviticus 24:17

    Incest – Leviticus 20:12

    Perjury in a capital case – Deuteronomy 19:8-12

    Adultery – Leviticus 20:12

    Idolatry – Exodus 22:20

    Bestiality – Leviticus 20:15

    Child sacrifice to pagan gods – Leviticus 20:2

    Cursing a parent – Leviticus 20:9

    Forturne-telling – Leviticus 20:27

    Homosexuality – Leviticus 20:13

    Etc

    When Moses came down with the ten commandments he confronted the cult of the golden calf. He commanded the Levites to take up arms, and they killed about 3,000 men who were in this cult, including their own family members.

    The old testament has many other examples of sinners put to death for their crimes. The biblical refrain for those justly executed as punishment for their own crimes is their blood will be on their own heads. This expresses the idea that those guilty of certain actions have brought the shedding of blood upon themselves, and those carrying out due punishment do not bear bloodguilt.

    The ancient Hebrew texts make a distinction between the moral and legal prohibition of shedding of innocent blood and killing in battle. The Bible often praises the exploits of soldiers against enemies in legitimate battle. See Exodus 20:13, Exodus 34:10-14, Deuteronomy 7:7-26, 2 Samuel 23:8, 2 Samuel 23:18, etc.

    Deuteronomy 20:10-18 establishes rules for killing civilians in war.

    Cities outside the promised land: population to be made tributaries and left alive if they surrendered. If they resisted the adult males should be killed and the women and children taken as slaves.

    Cities inside the promised land: kill them all.

    Exodus 22:2-3 makes it clear killing home invaders is justified homicide.

    The New testament confirms –

    Punishing evildoers even to the point of bearing the sword – Romans 13:4

    Contrasting death penalty and shedding innocent blood – Luke 23:41

    See also Matthew 27:24-5, Matthew 22:7, and Romans 13.

    Regarding justified killing in war see Ephesians 6, Acts 10, Luke 7:1-10, Luke 3:14, Luke 22:36-7.

  14. ARE THE 50 STATES ***IN*** THE USA ???

    ARE COUNTIES/CITIES/ ETC. ***IN*** EACH STATE ???

    ARE THE VARIOUS AMERICAN TRIBAL AREAS ***IN*** THE USA ???
    —-
    HOW MUCH R.O. STUFF IS BEING USED BY PUTIN KILLERS/MURDERERS ***IN*** UKRAINE TO JUSTIFY THEIR KILLINGS/MURDERS ???

    IS UKRAINE A PART OF THE R.O. PROMISED LAND ???

  15. This idiot just keeps going. Ukraine is of course a part of Russia. The Mongol yoke was particularly bad there. The Vatican is not in Italy; your examples are not separate sovereign foreign nations and not analogous. The special operation in Ukraine is justified and holy, consecrated by ROC and a Christian Crusade. The murders there are by the apostate Ukrainian Nazi scum. Also, Hitler was many orders of magnitude worse than Trump or Putin. AZ is always babbling nonsense nonstop.

  16. Trump lives matter. Also, the special operation in Ukraine is consecrated and holy. AZ is going to hell for denouncing it. He’s on the side of the banderite Nazi Ukrainian fascists. For Shame!

  17. Maybe he only wants attention? He contradicts himself constantly, always name calls , and the sky is always falling, except it’s been falling since before the dawn of history. He’s the very definition of a troll, and you’d have to be a moron not to see it.

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