New Jersey Democratic Party Challenges Independent Presidential Candidate Shiva Ayyadurai

On August 1, the New Jersey Democratic Party asked the New Jersey Secretary of State to remove Shiva Ayyadurai from the ballot.  He is an independent presidential candidate with the ballot label “Dr. Shiva.”  He was not born in the United States.  See this story.

As already noted, New Jersey has traditionally not enforced presidential qualifications, and has printed the names of six minor party and independent presidential or vice-presidential candidates who were under age 35, or who were not born in the United States.


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New Jersey Democratic Party Challenges Independent Presidential Candidate Shiva Ayyadurai — 12 Comments

  1. Aren’t folks in NJ actually voting for his presidential electors and his name is just being used as a placeholder for them? Richard, do any states still print the prez electors on their ballots?

  2. https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2024/08/01/supreme-court-immunity-congress-schumer-no-kings-act/74640621007/

    In an attempt to reverse the Supreme Court’s immunity decision, Schumer introduces the No Kings Act
    Mary Clare Jalonick
    Associated Press
    Washington — Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer introduced legislation Thursday reaffirming that presidents do not have immunity for criminal actions, an attempt to reverse the Supreme Court’s landmark decision last month.
    Schumer’s No Kings Act would attempt to invalidate the decision by declaring that presidents are not immune from criminal law and clarifying that Congress, not the Supreme Court, determines to whom federal criminal law is applied.

    TOO LITTLE — TOO LATE ???

  3. According to the Democrats, Indian antisemite Kamala Harris should be on the ballot, but Indian antisemite Shiva Ayyadurai should not.

    What are the differences?
    Kamala was born in the US – or well in California, anyway – to two non-American parents, a not yet naturalized Indian mother and a not yet naturalized Jamaican father from a slave-owning family.
    Shiva was born in India to two non-American parents, both Indian and not yet naturalized.

    So neither of them are eligible for the presidency or vice presidency, since neither of them are natural born citizens. But for some reason the Democratic Party only objects to the one who is not in their party appearing on the New Jersey ballot…

    Wouldn’t it be funny if the SoS bars both of them from the ballot thanks to the Democrats’ efforts.

  4. WOW! John McCain III was born in the Republic of Panama to two US Citizen that were not wed. Thy had a sham wedding in a bar in TJ, Baja California. The requirement was wed at the office of civil registry and that did not happen. McCain was never a citizen of the United States.

    At least Dr. SHIVA was naturalized.

  5. His parents’ marital status aside, McCain is not a natural born citizen, because he was not born in the Panama Canal Zone. They later tried to pretend he was born at Coco Solo naval hospital, but in fact his mother had been taken to a civil hospital outside of the Canal Zone when she went into labor.

    And Senate Resolution 511 “recognizing that John Sidney McCain, III, is a natural born citizen” is legally null and void. The senate does not have the legal authority to declare someone a natural born citizen. It’s just pretentious and meaningless melodrama without any legal weight.

  6. Nuna,

    You correct about the Senate authority. However being born in the Republic of Panama can give a person US Citizenship of his parents were wed. They were not we’d. Therefore McCain was not ever a US Citizen.

  7. Natural born citizenship has nothing to do with marital status. Per Vattel, it stems completely from the father’s citizenship. McStain’s father was most definitely a US citizen at the time of his birth, so no matter where in the world where he was born, he was a natural born US cit. Regardless, this should be an issue for the Electoral College to deal with. It is their responsibility and probably also Congress’ to vet the qualifications of the eventual president.

  8. Under US law, citizenship is not the same as natural born citizenship.

    For example, if someone were born outside* of the US to a US citizen father and a non-US* citizen mother, then they would inherit their fathers US citizenship, but they would never be able to run for (vice) president because they are not a natural born US citizens.

    *Barring countries which the US does not recognize, countries which the US does not allow dual-citizenship with and countries against which the US has specific sanctions in place at time of birth

  9. NBC = FATHER IS A USA CITIZEN [NBC OR NATURALIZED] THE SECOND THE FATHER’S KID IS BORN.

    NATION-STATE ALLEGIANCE CHAIN.

    SEE LAST PARA OF 4 JULY 1776 DOI —–
    STATE 1 MASS. — END BRIT RULE ON 19 APR 1775 – BATTLES OF LEXINGTON AND CONCORD.

    STATES 2-13 — NEW STATE CITIZENS ON 4 JULY 1776 — IF LOYAL TO NEW STATE REGIMES [ALL REVOLUTIONARY].

    POSSIBLE NC STATE 2 BEFORE 4 JULY 1776.

    ALL SORTS OF ALLEGIANCE TESTS/OATHS IN 1775-1784

    — PURGES / ATTAINER ACTS / ALLEGIANCE-TREASON TRIALS / ETC. OF BRIT ROYALISTS.

    PLACE OF BIRTH MEANS ZERO.

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