1. https://www.nyc.gov/site/charter/index.page

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2. Why are you gay?

3. Why are/aren’t you, Simon? And why do you care?

4. Top two sucks, but then again so does NYC government regardless of voting system so long as voting eligibility requirements are so extremely lax and immigration into the city from outside its boundaries is uncontrolled.

   Any sensible city would limit voting to long term multi generation residents who are both substantial property owners and willing and able to pay significant poll taxes, demonstrate competence with civic knowledge and service, own and demonstrate continuing competence with civil defense weapons and ammunition, and a variety of other requirements to weed out idiots, leeches, and parasites from taking advantage of what others built via government and elections.

   Furthermore, any sensible city would have city walls and/or a variety of other security measures to regulate entry and exit, fees for entry and exit, tariffs on anything manufactured outside that city or services provided outside that city and or by nonresidents, nontrivial requirements for temporary residence or conducting business within its borders, and most of all for becoming a citizen of that city – much less a voting decision maker on its political direction, laws and government.

   New York city is so far from being a sensible city that it actually serves best as an example of how to do everything exactly backwards from how it should be.

   Aside from that, it’s way too big. It would be far more effectively managed by breaking it up into many separate adjacent cities, for example along current police precinct lines.

5. Stanley: That would disqualify most Trump/MAGA voters, which is fine with me.

6. S- CURRENT NY CITY = MERGER OF OLDE SMALLER CITIES/COUNTIES- NOW *BOROUGHS*

   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City

   In 1898, the City of New York was formed with the consolidation of Brooklyn (until then a separate city), the County of New York (which then included parts of the Bronx), the County of Richmond, and the western portion of the County of Queens.[112]

7. Fagelein: it would be fine with me too, since it would disqualify an even higher percentage of antiTrump / Give America Away voters. It might surprise you that under my proposals for very limited voter criteria, I too would no longer be qualified to vote, since I’m too old for front line military or law enforcement field operations duty anymore, and that I’m completely fine with that.

   Not everyone needs to vote. Indeed, only a highly select group of civic leaders should vote at all. I’d guesstimate maybe one in a thousand people. More people than that voting has an increasingly negative value as the votes of those who actually should be allowed to vote are consequently diluted.

   I’m not sure why you are so focused on Trump, who I said nothing about here. His supporters are hardly your problem in NYC, where they are too few in number relative to everyone else to win anything significant.

8. Instead of adding additional boroughs, they should have broken it down further. And still should.

9. The principle of representation cited during the Revolution was “No taxation without representation.” If anyone who is subject to tax cannot vote, then they ought to be exempted from taxation.

   This was the principle in England during the entire Medieval period. Towns people could only be taxed if their town had members in Parliament. Towns that lacked representation were granted charters that exempted them from paying taxes.

10. One of the biggest problems in NYC is not only is there no border enforcement to limit people from outside the city from entering or even moving there, but there are also no border controls between different neighborhoods inside the city itself.

    This leads to the wanton destruction of the historic character of different neighborhoods and the population replacement of their people’s, often by alien cultures and people who don’t look anything like them.

    This can range from gentrification, where poor and working class New Yorkers end up being priced out of the neighborhoods where their families have lived and worked for generations by an influx of obnoxious yuppies, to the destruction of historic ethnic enclaves, and even the incursion of filthy, welfare dependant, disease spreading and crime ridden populations into once safe family neighborhoods.

    In all these cases, breaking the city up into multiple adjacent cities, along with strict border controls to vet immigration, travel, and trade between these neighborhoods, would help to solve the vast majority of these problems, along with many others that stem from them as a root cause.

11. Walter Ziobro:

    Were all the residents of any given town or area of countyside in medieval England allowed to vote? If not, who was excluded from voting and why? Did those people suffer from the effects of taxation, if there were any such people?

12. Despite Concerned’s self description as a troll, there are no lies detected in his or her post. I could even expand on it, completely seriously, but won’t for the time being unless people show genuine interest.

13. Stanley.

    Troll is just a family name. It comes from Norway. My parents named me concerned due to the many times I made them worried throughout the time my mother was pregnant with me, or so they told me. I did not mean to create the impression that I am trolling, and I apologize for not explaining this earlier – hopefully you’ll forgive me, as it does get tiresome to do so constantly. Just imagine if your given legal name was Concerned Troll.

    Thank you for agreeing with my comment. It helps me feel less lonely in today’s topsy turvy crazy world, which often makes me feel that I was born in the wrong century, and all the more so since this (not so new anymore) century began.

    The only thing I can think of to add to my previous comment at this time is that many people, in my opinion very justifiably, consider population replacement in urban neighborhoods to be a form of genocide. If anyone disagrees, please explain why it’s not.

14. I wouldn’t mind giving up voting rights to live tax free. I think lots and lots of people would gladly take that deal.

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