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  1. FORMAL DEMOCRACY. THE FAILURE OF DEMOCRACY. The myth of representation is as follows; “political sovereignty lies with the people. Since the majority cannot exercise their democratic rights directly, they delegate them through parliamentary representatives, who are at the same time governmental organs. All branches of power emanate from popular sovereignty. They are legitimate powers. ” This in fact has nothing to do with reality. Representatives and senatores don’t represent those w ho have given them power, but rather they substitute them. They are elected to serve the people, but instead they serve two masters; the ruling elites and their own interests.

  2. Democracy – the worst form of government — except for the other super EVIL two — monarchy and oligarchy.

    Sorry — NO government anarchy and utopian unanimity are totally delusional.

    Meanwhile – the NPV scheme is one more blatantly unconstitutional MORON scheme –

    NO interstate compact for it has been approved by the Congress. Art. I, Sec. 10, para. 3 –

    also a blatant violation of the Equal Protection Clause of 14th Amdt, Sec. 1 — the votes OUTSIDE of a *sovereign* State determine the results INSIDE a *sovereign* State.

    Sorry – even the gerrymander Congress can NOT violate the EPC.

    Election related Amdts
    12, 14 Sec. 2, 15, 17, 19, 20, 22, 23, 24, 26 and 27

    Too difficult for New Age constitutional law MORONS to understand.

  3. What is the equal protection argument? No state may “deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.” How are persons inside Maryland (first of the 3 states to approve the NPV compact so far) being treated unequally by this Maryland law?

    Congressional approval of interstate compacts typically comes after the requisite number of states join, not before. Moreover, since this is an exclusive state power, under U.S. Steel v. Multistate Tax Commission (1978) and Tennessee v. Virginia (1893), there is no challenge to federal supremacy, and hence congressional approval is not required at any time.

  4. OH, what a tangled web we weave…

    Instead of dancing around this 216 year old animal, let’s get a consitutional amendement to remove the electoral college. Easy.

  5. #3

    U.S.A. Prez popular vote

    AA 60,000,000
    BB 60,000,001

    State Z Prez popular vote

    AA 1,000,000
    BB 1 [repeat 1 — perhaps the candidate]

    Electoral College Vote — before NPV stuff

    AA 270
    BB 268

    The voters in State Z who voted for AA will have their votes for Prez Electors in such State Z directly diluted in a blatant violation of the EPC — which neither the U.S.A. or State regimes can subvert — which is one of the reasons it was proposed in 1866 in the 39th Congress — to greatly reduce the chances for having the 1861-1865 Civil War restart.

    However the 1866 then new GOP party hacks in control did nothing about the Electoral College — i.e. the 1860 EVIL minority rule election for Prez Lincoln that got them into P-O-W-E-R — despite killing about 620,000 folks in the horrific Civil War.

    The NPV MORONS are directly akin to the Foster v. Love MORONS in LA in 1997.

    How long to get the 13th Amdt ? Hmmm. 1789-1865

    How long to get the 19th Amdt ? Hmmm. 1789-1920

    Will an amdt to have a NONPARTISAN Prez happen BEFORE the current system of party hack Prezs – gods – emperors destroy civilization ???

    Remedy – Uniform definition of Elector in ALL of the U.S.A.

    P.R. for all legislative body elections

    NONPARTISAN elections for all elected executive / judicial officers — using Approval Voting [pending some very MAJOR public education regarding things like Condorcet]

    Abolish all vetoes.

    Much too difficult for the EVIL party hacks in the gerrymander Congress and all 50 gerrymander State legislatures — especially in the EVIL small State regimes (i.e. due to the 1787 Federal Convention EVIL compromise regarding the U.S.A. Senate — which was also directly connected with the EVIL now dead 3/5 person clause regarding slaves for getting U.S.A. Reps — connected with the EVIL Electoral College minority rule math — Number of Reps + 2 Sens.] — i.e. the 1787 small States and slave States conspiracy.

    How about a 269-269 party hack TIE in Nov 2008 for Prez — to REALLY set things off — i.e. to cause CIVIL W-A-R II ???

    The New Age party hack extremists will really love that to happen — especially the EVIL communists in the Donkey Party and the EVIL fascists in the Elephant Party — trying to get total control of the U.S.A. / world — for their EVIL party hack control freak agendas ???

  6. Mark, passing a constitutional amendment would be much harder. Especially considering how spineless and docile most of the Congresspeople are anyway. Dealing with the state governments is (relatively) easier.

  7. Demo Rep (self-confessed voter in EVIL party primaries) #6: in 1800, there was a tie in the Electoral College between Thomas Jefferson and Aaron Burr, both Jeffersonian Republicans. The Federalist-controlled House took 36 ballots to elect Jefferson president.

    Somehow, the republic survived.

    How does National Popular Vote relate to the Foster v. Love ruling vis-a-vis Louisiana’s “top two” congressional elections?

  8. #8 Foster morons thought they could ignore a Fed law [i.e. the Nov. *election* date].

    NPV morons think they can ignore Art I, Sec. 10 and the 14th Amdt. The Supremes are waiting to bring down a Bush v. Gore type hammer on the NPV moron skulls.

    D.R. also votes in local top 2N nonpartisan primary elections.

    Waiting for the WA top 2 primary to wipe out party hacks.

    Are the WA party hacks in a state of total panic ???

    Shed a micro-mini tear for them.

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