At least two of the many lawsuits on whether Barack Obama meets the constitutional qualifications to be president are now reported. The Connecticut Supreme Court reported Wrotnowski v Bysiewicz at 958 A 2d 709 (decision of Nov. 3, 2008). And the U.S. District Court in Philadelphia reported Berg v Obama at 574 F.Supp.2d 509 (decision of Oct. 24, 2008). Both decisions had said the plaintiffs don’t have standing. “Reported” means the case was considered significant enough so that it should be printed in the West Lawbook Company’s books of court decisions. The company has enjoyed this responsibility since the 19th century.
The fact that Barry Soetoro, aka Barack Hussein Obama, has not been forthcoming with a copy of his original birth certificate is very telling. Further, his legal expenditure to three law firms on the matter — upwards of a million dollars, opposed to spending $12.50 for a birth certificate copy is also very telling. He appears to be perpetrating a historic fraud on the American people which, too, shall be reported one day.
The *standing* stuff is TOTAL EVIL by the Supremes — who happen to be all party hacks appointed by party hack Prezs and confirmed by the party hacks in the gerrymander U.S.A. Senate — all very cute EVIL.
Are the U.S.A. and State governments supposedly controlled by the PEOPLE or by the EVIL LAWLESS powermad incumbent monarchs / oligarchs in the U.S.A. / State regimes ???
Let us guess — especially since the 1860 election or 1932 election.
Not only is Obama not qualified to be President, he may not even be ELIGIBLE! Shame on you idiotic Obama worshippers .
JUST ONE DAY BEFORE CONGRESS VOTES ON ELECTORAL ‘VOTE’ CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS HAS DISTRIBUTED FOR CONFERENCE DR. ORLY’S LIGHTFOOT CASE!
MESSAGE — NOW RENEWED AS AN ALERT — TO EVERY MEMBER OF CONGRESS:
When counting the electoral votes, either Congress finds by 1/8/09 that Obama — not being an Article II “natural born citizen†(father Kenyan/British, not American, citizen) — fails to qualify as President whereupon Biden becomes the full fledged President under 3 USC 19 (free to pick his own VP such as Hillary) or thereafter defers to the Supreme Court to enjoin Obama’s inauguration with Biden becoming only Acting President under the 20th Amendment until a new President is duly determined.
The preferable choice (especially for the Democrats) — IN WHAT WILL BE THE MOST IMPORTANT AND HISTORIC CONGRESSIONAL VOTE SINCE THE AMERICAN CIVIL WAR — should seem obvious.
*SPECIAL AUDIO LINK MESSAGE TO JOHN MCCAIN:
http://www.oilforimmigration.org/facts/?p=691
To: Carol Robinson
The man of many names, viz. Barak Hussein Obama, has gone by many names. One additional first name
was “Berry” like the former mayor of Washington, DC. Add to that the Christian Name of “Johnson” because Obama used “Johnson” as a surname at times.
Next, the Republican Party did not come up with a
citizen either. John Sidney McCain III was born
at 6:25 pm on 29 August 1936. He was born out of
wedlock to Roberta McCain n’ee Wright at the Colon
Hospital, City of Colon, Republic of Panama. He
was not born in the Panama Canal Zone as he claims.
McCain claims in his book FAITH OF MY FATHERS [see
pages 48 – 50] that his parents were married “in
1933 at Ceasar’s Bar in Tijuana, Mexico. They were
never married at any time in Baja California, including Tijuana. For a return SASE (42 cents postage stamped envelope) and a check of $1.50 to the order of “Hildalgo County Clerk” [address: 310 Shakespeare Street, Lordsburg, NM 88045] you can
obtain proof that the Roberta McCain n’ee Wright[born 7 Feburary 1912] never married any one at any time in Baja California, Mexico, nor did John Sidney McCain II [born 17 January 1912] marry anyone at any time in Baja California, Mexico.
The proof is a certified copy of a “Certificado
de Inexistencia de Registro de Matrimonio” issued
by Lic. Rogelio Aros Guzman, Director del Registo
Civil del Estado de Baja California, Estado Unidos
Mexicanos. You need to request a certified copy of
Instrument # 20080001666, recorded October 28, 2008
at 02:38:57 PM
Because John Sidney McCain III was born out of wedlock, he only gets, citizen right of his mother,
if she had any citizen rights to pass to her son.
On the birth certificate Roberta Wright listed her
employment as a housewife. Therefore, she was not
employed at the time of John Sidney McCain III’s birth as an employee of the United States Government, nor employeed by the Panama Railroad Company (or its successor in title).
The Panama Collective Naturalization Act of August
4, 1937 [8 United States Code section 5e, repealed
on January 13, 1941], the act by which almost all
children born in the Republic of Panama to an American parent got there naturalization as United States Citizen, required that the parent at time of the childs birth meet the above stated employment requirement. Roberta McCain n’ee Wright did not meet that employment requirement,
nor could John Sidney McCain III look to John
Sidney “Jack” McCain II {US Navy Officer}, because
he never married Robert McCain n’ee Wright at or
prior to that Republic of Panama birth.
For a copy e-mailed to you of the Panama Birth
cetificate address a request to Chairman Markhum
Robenson, American Independent Party. You can
find his address under Officers List on the American Independent Party website.
Sincerely, Mark Seidenberg, Vice Chairman, American
Independent Party
All these strong opinions, yet not one of you accepted my wager from last week. So, I’ll re-iterate, nothing will come of this and I am ready to put my money where my mouth is. Anyone brave enough to bet?
Two very good reasons why this is going nowhere:
1. Legal-Obama has a Certification of live Birth from Aloha land. You can take all the shots you want at it with wild scenarios about pregnant teens jetting back and forth to Kenya, but it is a document and has prima facie validity. To overcome it, you need actual evidence against it, like a document showing birth in Kenya. Until you have some, no court will care.
2. Real world politics-Obama was elected. Decisively. He has been acting as President-in-al- but-name for at least a month now, with the full approval of those who, unlike the midgets who file useless lawsuits, have access (legal and extra-legal) to every record, file, phone call, etc. Do you think they do that just to play games? Do you think they will allow turmoil and the reduction of the USA’s already low standing in the world to zero?
Not a chance. But you can continue your fantasies if it makes you happy.
I am really starting to wonder iof this issue will ever be heard. The party failed. The secretarty’s of state all dropped the ball. The electors, who should not have to take the resonsibility, but could, did not (nor were they likely qualified to). SCOTUS to date has not.
Will congress? Ron Paul says he won’t. That says a lot. A lot of people are really scared.
Likely the only chance is SCOTUS on Jan. 9th, Jan 16th, or Jan 23rd (maybe more to come). But then it is even a bigger mess if Obama is found ineligible.
To all PinHead’s and Flapheads above, go home today, stand in front of your bathroom mirror and take note with pen and pad that you are staring into the mirror at a reactionary-extremist who for weeks pitched a conniption fit that Obama’s birth certificate issue be heard by the U.S. Supreme Court, but the Supreme Court “DUMPED” the birth certificate case on its feeble paper-head. But, now after receiving an opinion that contravenes your ‘BELIEF’ (because that is ALL you have) that there is something to this matter have determined that to “DOG-CUSS” the Supreme Court is now the appropriate course to be taken. That is the definition of extremism, the act of taking things to the extreme. Not getting one’s way, or receiving the desired outcome after being provided a hearing before the highest judciary in the land, is selfish, it is undemocratic and it is unfair, after all there are 300 million people in the United States and your 15 minutes over this issue is OVER. Thank Dog!
EXTREME-1 a: something situated at or marking one end or the other of a range b: the first term or the last term of a mathematical proportion c: the major term or minor term of a syllogism.
2 a: a very pronounced or excessive degree b: highest degree : maximum
3: an extreme measure or expedient
— in the extreme : to the greatest possible extent
EXTREMIST – 1. a person who goes to extremes, esp. in political matters.
2. a supporter or advocate of extreme doctrines or practices.
–adjective
Because I’m in a generous mood, let me give you some advice. I’ve read your posts about how Obama “might have” been born in Kenya or “could have” been born in Kenya. But courts, Congress and even the court of public opinion aren’t going to be swayed by “could have” or “might have”. They need PROOF. So, if you and Berg et al are serious, rather than just interested in ranting on message boards and wasting judges’ time, you will get your butts over to Kenya and try to find some proof of a birth there. I am pretty sure you won’t find any, but if you get lucky and find some, then people may listen to you. Heck, even I might.
Till then, I still see no takers on my wager.
Your wager is stupid. Jerome Corsi DID go to Kenya to find evidence, but they kicked him out. Also Berg claims that Obamas birth certificate is the smoking gun, but Obama is doing everything he posibly can to hide it.
like isaid a stupid, stupid wager.
Dear Fake Mr Reality:
If my wager is so “stupid” you should be happy to take my money. I doubt you even really believe your own arguments, or you wouldn’t be so afraid.
That crook Corsi has no evidence and claims are all Berg has. That and $2 gets you coffee.
Obama was just named President. Dick Cheney anounced it himself. These cases are moot now, since no Court, not even the SCOTUS, has the power to remove a President. The only way to do that is by impeachment, and Pelosi wouldn’t impeach Bush, so I doubt she’d impeach Obama.
If you are really Mr Reality, you’d acknowledge reality and move on. You can take this up again in 4 years when obama runs for re-election.
I am having a hard time wading through all of what’s what in the whole Obama birth certificate thing. To me there is precious little evidence supporting him being born outside of the US. Sorry, but reading something on some right wing blog, that came from another blog, that was seen by soembody else’s Aunt Tillie on some other blog isn’t evidence!!
I’d like to see some real evidence, not just what one blogger reports from another and so forth. To me that’s about what 99.44% of all this boils down to.
train111
When these judges say who does not have standing, do they also say who would?
If noone standing, noone can bring a lawsuit to defend the constitution. What a joke.
Dear Fake Smart Guy,
You obviously can’t read. as i said before, Corsi was kicked out of Kenya before he could gather any evidence, and Obama is hiding the evidence from Berg.
Dear Fake Mr Reality:
I can read perfectly well. You have zip, nada, bupkis. No evidence = no case.
Berg is a 9/11 Truther who also happens to be all sandy because Hillary didn’t win the Democratic nomination. But his lawsuit, IIRC, is based on:
1) Obama was REALLY born in Kenya, despite ample proof to the contrary. Since his mother wasn’t old enough, he wasn’t really a US citizen. This is based on a partial translation of an interview with his paternal grandmother.
2) He’s a dual national of Kenya or the UK, depending.
3) When he was in Indonesia, his stepfather listed him as “Indonesian” to get him into school there. Indonesia doesn’t allow dual citizenship. Their laws take precedence over US law that says that minors can’t renounce their US citizenship.
4) He traveled to Pakistan in 1971 on an Indonesian passport, which he couldn’t have done as a US citizen, because it was illegal. (That’s not true, btw.) That proves that he was an Indonesian citizen.
Plus a huge dogpiile of additional rumor and innuendo strung together. I think he also said that Obama was ugly and his mom dressed him funny.
What’s lacking in every case, of course, is any actual, verifiable documentation. No birth records from Kenya, no naturalization records from Indonesia, nada. On the other hand, Obama has a certified COLB from Hawaii and the attestation of state officials that a correct and true BC resides there. Such is the way of the bitter loser and the conspiracy theorist.
Dear Fake Smart Guy,
Read my lips: Obama and Kenya are HIDING the evidence.
Read my lips: The election is over. Obama won. Even Dick Cheney said so. You want to spend the next 4 years pretending Obama isn’t the President? Be my guest.
Hahahahahahaha! just as I thought! I address your point when you ask, where is the evidence? and then you go ahead and change the subject. Bahahahahahaha!
Bwahahaha yourself. You know who’s hiding evidence? Berg and his fellow sore losers. They come with third-hand hearsay and stuff pulled from Wikipedia and right-wing blogs. If they were at all serious, they would get sworn depositions from the witnesses who claimed to be present at Obama’s birth in Kenya, with a court-approved translator if needed. If they can’t do the depositions in Kenya, they can fly the witnesses to the US or a third country.
Produce something that meets some minimal legal standard for evidence and you might get taken seriously. Otherwise, see #18 above.
If you would to have evidence the whether Barry Sotero is eligible to be president, go to http://www.obamacrimes.com and do a little research. I would hit the latest tab on the left and that will get you to where you need to go. My point is, that if 1 of the 5 to 8 reasons why Obama is not eligible is true then he is not eligible and this is the biggest HOAX ever in America. The one about Obama moving to Indonesia which is true, he said so in his memoirs, and becoming an Indonesian citizen, means that he is not a natural born American citizen anymore, but a naturalized citizen. I also think it is funny that he never applied to get his citizenship back when he returned to the US and that makes him a ILLEGAL ALIEN. Now wouldn’t we look pretty stupid if we had an illegal alien as president? There goes America, the land of the free and the home of the stupid!!!
Dear Clueless in the U.S,
It would be news to berg that he has Obams birth certificate and is hiding it. Too bad your claptrap ain’t true buddy!
your a JOKE
Got sworn depositions, Mr Fake?
It seems that only the Berg case is mentioning that Obama LOST his citizenship when he became an Indonesian citizen. This makes his place of birth IRRELIVENT!
Clueless, You’re dumber than i thought if you really believe that Obama will sit for a deposition.
There we agree Faker, Obama will never have to give a deposition in this case! Berg may have to give one to the Bar Association when he faces disbarment over repeated filing of ridiculous crap.
hahahahahahaha!! you just admitted it AGAIN. Obama won’t give a depositino because he’s hiding something
Bahahahahahahahaha!!!!
Waht is a depositino? Is that a new sub-atomic particle?
No, it’s YOU avoiding the entire point, clueless. Bahahahahahahahaha!!! Keep avoiding, keep avoiding!
I have to say that Mr Reality has lost his train of argument here. Mr Berg needs to come up with some actual evidence, as opposed to conjecture, if he expects anyone to listen to him. So far he has not.
Dear Split Personality,
Obama is hiding the evidence from Berg. i already stated that. idiot
now go back to your anarchy personality
The imposter pretending to be me above is simply a fool. Only idiots think that anything can come from the rantings of nobodies like Berg and Keyes. No serious person pays them any notice. Sore losers blame everyone but themselves when they lose.
i knew it! mr. split personality strikes again!!
Anarchy, NooYawk, what other personalities are there?
The nation owes more than thanks to three unlikely modern day patriots: professional poker player, musician, and retired attorney, Leo Donofrio; life long Democrat and former Pennsylvania assistant attorney general, Phil Berg; and Soviet emigree and attorney, Dr. Orly Taitz (she’s also a dentist).
While Mr. Donofrio painstakingly established the airtight case that BHO could not be an Article II “natural born citizen†(at BHO’s birth, dad was British/Kenyan, not American, citizen) Leo’s Stay of the 12/15/08 electoral college vote was denied by SCOTUS as procedurally unripe.
Nevertheless, since no congressman and senator objected on 1/8/09 to Congress’ count and certification of the electoral vote which would have turned resolution of Obama’s eligibility issue over to Congress — rendering moot the Berg and Taitz (Lightfoot) cases — Berg finally does achieve standing on the issue of actual harm, to be addressed at the Friday 1/9/09 SCOTUS Conference on Writ of Certiorari. Obama’s failure to submit evidence of his constitutional qualification for the 1/9/09 conference will mean he cannot thereafter challenge Berg’s request to enjoin the 1/8/09 Congressional electoral count and certification, albeit retroactive, scheduled for SCOTUS conference Friday 1/16/09. Moreover, Chief Justice Roberts has scheduled a full Court conference on the Lightfoot case Friday 1/23/09 in the event there needs to be a Constitutionally mandated action, the Inauguration itself, to enjoin retroactively.
Now that BHO is in checkmate and cannot be POTUS, he can be a patriot as well. He need not subject the nation to the expense and trauma of requiring SCOTUS to overrule his ‘Presidency’. BHO can and should voluntarily step down with Biden becoming Acting POTUS under the 20th Amendment, and under the agreement all potential claims by the Government for itself and on behalf of others against BHO are released.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague.”
~~Marcus Tullius Cicero
anarchists and other would be dictators are mere pundits. Extremists you have not seen yet but patriots, you have only until now heard stories of. Let us hope the laws we live by can correct this affront to the sensibilities of real Americans before they decide to bleed to do so.
BTW, Senator Schumer stated “The courts have held that President Obama is a natural-born American citizen”. What courts do Senators have that we don’t?