The American Independent Party of California primary ballot in 2010 will probably list two candidates for Governor, Chelene Nightingale and Markham Robinson. The AIP has not had a contested gubernatorial primary in California since 1990, when Jerome McCready and Chuck Morsa each ran. McCready won the 1990 primary, 54%-46%.
Nightingale is part of the faction that is associated with the Constitution Party nationally. Robinson is part of the faction that supported Alan Keyes for president in 2008, even after Keyes failed to get the Constitution Party’s presidential nomination and then set up his own party, called America’s Independent Party.
This ought to be interesting–most of the voters will know nothing of either contestant.
“…most of the voters will know nothing of either contestant.”
Well, here is Chelene Nightingale’s campaign site, followed by Markham Robinson’s site. It sure looks to me like Mrs. Nightingale has been getting the public’s attention, ear, and recognition lately.
Nightingale:
http://www.nightingaleforgovernor.com/
Robinson:
http://www.christianpoliticaltheory.com/about.htm
BTW, Robinson’s candidacy isn’t even listed on Politics1.com yet. Has he even filed? http://www.politics1.com/ca.htm
Besides the different personalities involved, are their any ideological differences between the Keyes AIP and the AIP that’s affiliated with the Constitution Party?
While Mr. Robinson – as an AIP member – has every right to seek the nomination, I trust after the primary is decided, he will support who is going to be the obvious winner – Ms. Nightingale.
Even if Mr. Robinson’s faction are the legal officers and committee of the party, Ms. Nightingale has the potetntial of becoming the “Sarah Palin” of the AIP. Why Mr. Robinson and his colleagues are not laying aside their differences over this legitimacy issue and supporting her, I do not understand.
But as one who has observed 3rd parties for some 45 years, there are many of these 3rd party leaders who would sacrifice victory just to have control over their little 3rd party, rather than share the power and have some influence in the general election outcome. Again, another reason why most 3rd party candidates lose.
Sarah Palin? “really?” Just do some reading about Ms. Nightingale on the internet…this is not a bash…She has aquired many former friends that don’t paint too pretty of a picture. Are they all out “to get” Ms. Nightingale? Or do they know something we don’t? She is openly affliated with the “constitution party” and all her backers are as well. Its clearly a matter of revenge through the ballot as the “chuck Baldwin” faction want to regain the aip…back to their party for the Ballot access. Its all there to read..google AIP vs CP….A member wrote…”the only reason we bother with the aip…is because the cp does not have ballot access. It would take 88,000 registered voters to create a new party…:)
Besides…I’d be scared to death to have Jim Gilchrest of the minutemen against me as Chelene Nightingale does.
She wronged the wrong man. He has many posts…about her.. those past associations I think will hurt her..
California does not need anymore scandal ridden politicians!!!
“the obvious winner – Ms. Nightingale …….”
[a] she has no positive base
[b] what following she did have is/ has eroded
[c] gross lack of public relations
[d] could not make ‘Save Our State’ work
Never let a man hold anything over you….(unless its an umbrella) – Mae West 😉
Unfortunately, I cannot say that Markham is the better choice- leaving aside my stance on how I feel about the mess in California, he has been intentionally avoiding being served court papers on the AIP/CP fight and has conducted Party meetings either online, in private, or simply unannounced to the public, which tells me that his integrity might be open to question.
He has also shown himself to be very pro-interventionist on foreign policy and I have heard that ‘if he had his way, he would kick out all the turks off of Cyprus and build a base there to influence the middle east’.
(I’ll see if I can find a link to that).
And looking at the front page of his website, he supported Republican Tom McClintock over AIP candidate- Diane Templin in the 2003 Recall Election, even though he was aware of her running.
http://www.christianpoliticaltheory.com/cont-voteconscience.htm
http://www.christianpoliticaltheory.com/cont-partyendorsements.htm
On a further examination of his website, while he has a link to the AIP and other political parties in CA, he has a LOT of links to different GOP clubs and organizations, which makes me suspicious.
http://www.christianpoliticaltheory.com/Links/PartisanSites.htm
On the Religious Links, he has a lot of Calivinist stuff on there, including a link to the Chalcedon Foundation, which is recognized as a Hate Group by the Southern Poverty Law Center.
http://www.christianpoliticaltheory.com/Links/ChrAndPolitics.htm
So while he’s not the worst candidate in the world or in America, yet if I were an American Independent, I would vote for Chelene Nightingale in the Primary, since there are too many red flags in the case of Mr. Robinson.
” most of the voters will know nothing of either contestant.”
Response – Trent – I will solve that problem by informing the voters, via TheCorruptionOfAlanKeyes.blogspot.com and in any and all of my public speaking engagements, that Mark Robinson is the most corrupt candidate to ever seek the nomination of Governor for any party in the state much less the AIP.
Don J. Grundmann, D.C. Vice-Chairman American Independent Party, California branch of the Constitution Party
AIP candidate for United States Senate
” Besides the different personalities involved, are their any ideological differences between the Keyes AIP and the AIP that’s affiliated with the Constitution Party?”
Response – hoshie – The ideological differences are explained at TheCorruptionOfAlanKeyes.blogspot.com and boil down to the following : The Keyes faction; represented by Mark Robinson, Mark Seidenberg, and Ed Noonan; is utterly to-the-bone corrupt and the REAL AIP, of Chairman King and myself as Vice-Chairman represent the non-corruption faction of the AIP.
Don J. Grundmann, D.C. Vice-Chairman American Independent Party, California branch of the Constitution Party
AIP candidate for United States Senate
” Why Mr. Robinson and his colleagues are not laying aside their differences over this legitimacy issue and supporting her, I do not understand.”
Response – Alabama Independent – The ONLY reason that Mark Robinson is opposing Chelene Nightingale is as a defense of his corruption faction of the AIP against the non-corruption faction of which Chelene is a member. It is a desperate attempt to protect his corruption from being stopped by stopping Chelene, as the Governor candidate, from having voting power at our convention to toss his corrupt-beyond-the-bone posterior out of the party. There is no way that he will support her after he loses because of his totally corrupt character.
Don J. Grundmann, D.C. Vice-Chairman American Independent Party, California branch of the Constitution Party
AIP candidate for United States Senate
See, the whole Vote for Ms. Nightingale is just a ruse..to get back at robinson…2 wrongs don’t make a right! Everyone knows that neither candidate will win…this is strictly a “aip” party fight. Chelene Nightingale needs the campaign money to live on…she has not listed with the FEC so she can choose to spend the money as she likes. This is not a smear..Just read about what happened to another organization she was involved with…lawsuits…accusations of people pilfering money. Its very sordid! NOT the thing California needs. Its silly to run with such a background. The minutemen of CA are really doing a smear on the internet.
That alone will stop people dead in their tracks. Just seems worthless now.
Why put all your effort into something just for revenge. well, I guess people need to stay busy or have drama in their lives. Makes them feel alive. So have fun..
warning! “THREE DATES DON” Grundmann is out again with his disinformation. He can not tell the truth. First,
he is not and never has been the Vice Chairman of the
American Independent Party. He further claims that he was elected as Vice Chairman in June, 2008 on three different dates, viz., June 6, 2008; June 27, 2008; &
June 29, 2008.
Grundmann is a member of the State Central Committee,
However, he was never elected to the State Central Committee of the AIP. He has not been an officer of the
AIP since, September 2, 2008. Early in 2008, former Chairman of the AIP, viz., Ed Noonan removed Grundmann
from the office of Area Director.
TO: baby levine, please give more information about
Nighingale and the lack of FEC filing. This reader would like to know more.
Next, todays hearing before Judge Harrison in the case
of King vs. Robinson was continued until March 26, 2010.
Background, back in 1996, I was a Republican, now I am
a recovering Republican. I was backing Alan Keyes for
President in San Diego, CA Republican Convention. At that time Jim King was giving funds to a RINO that ran
against Alan Keyes in the 1996 Convention. After the
Convention of the GOP 1996, I went over to Del Coronado
Hotel to support the ticket of Philips & Titus.
Jim Kings wife was picked as the “Republican Business
Woman of the Year” for three years in a row.
We need to get these RINO’s out of the AIP. Therefore,
elect David Larson, Lt. Governor of California. He ran on the AIP primary ticket for President of the United
States in 2008.
Sincerely, Mark Seidenberg, Vice Chairman, American Independent Party.
TO Cody:
Markham Robinson is a good man. He will make California a far better place in he get elected
Governor.
Nightingate, was a registered Republican just last
year. Let’s stop RINO Nightingale from her Hijack
of the AIP.
Sincerely, Mark Seidenberg, Vice Chairman, American Independent Party
Mark Seidenberg – I challenge you, as I have challenged Mark Robinson and Ed Noonan, to a debate to be recorded and placed on YouTube for all to see. I say that since you are a total coward and liar you will not accept my challenge since I would tear you apart by exposing your endless lies which you continuously spout such as those you have written above. You dare to call Chelene a ” RINO ” when it is YOU who are the RAT republican mole sent to destroy the AIP. Chelene has total honor and integrity; character qualities which you cannot dream of since every atom in your body is corrupt. Again I challenge you to a recorded debate. Your lack of acceptance of my challenge will show what a liar and coward you are.
Don J. Grundmann, D.C. Vice-Chairman American Independent Party, California branch of the Constitution Party
AIP candidate for United States Senate
” Its clearly a matter of revenge through the ballot as the “chuck Baldwin†faction want to regain the aip ”
Response – babelevine – As documented at TheCorruptionOfAlanKeyes.blogspot.com the AIP never disaffiliated from the Constitution Party because no vote was ever taken to do so. A FAKE ” vote ” was taken by the corrupt Mark Robinson, Mark Seidenberg, Ed Noonan, and 2 other people – a MINORITY of the State Central Committee ( out of 17 total members ) which falsely claimed to be a majority and then deliberately filed fake papers with the California SOS office regarding their constructed lie. Hence the ” Baldwin ( non-corruption ) faction ” has never ” lost ” the AIP but is working to remove the Robinson/Seidenberg/Noonan corruption faction which falsely claims leadership of the party.
Don J. Grundmann, D.C. Vice-Chairman American Independent Party, California branch of the Constitution Party
AIP candidate for United States Senate
” On the Religious Links, he has a lot of Calivinist stuff on there, including a link to the Chalcedon Foundation, which is recognized as a Hate Group by the Southern Poverty Law Center.”
Cody – The Southern Poverty Law Center is a liberal/left rodent organization that declares any group which stands against abortion and homosexual perversion to be a ” hate group.” They are hence not to be trusted or acknowledged in the slightest degree as they are exactly what they claim everyone else is – a hate group. With that being said don’t let Mark Robinsons ” Christian ” exterior fake you out. He is a liar to the bone and beyond and simply uses his claimed Christianity as all other sociopaths do – to get you to lower your guard enough so that he can betray you. He is a toal and complete fake.
Don J. Grundmann, D.C. Vice-Chairman American Independent Party, California branch of the Constitution Party
AIP candidate for United States Senate
” Why put all your effort into something just for revenge ”
Response – babelevine – We ( the non-corruption King/Grundmann faction of the AIP ) put all of our effort never into revenge but instead to fight evil. The Robinson/Seidenberg/Noonan corruption faction of the AIP, as documented at TheCorruptionOfAlanKeyes.blogspot.com, is the crystallization of evil. It will be stopped because evil must always be stopped.
Don J. Grundmann, D.C. Vice-Chairman American Independent Party, California branch of the Constitution Party
AIP candidate for United States Senate
To: “THREE DATES DON”
When do you plan to pay the $1,000 for the work product?
When will you pick a date of your bogus “claim of
election of Vice-Chairman”, since the three dates
you claim in June, 2008, has no reason, viz., June 6, 2008; June 27, 2008; & June 29, 2008?
I know the date of June 27, 2008, has a concern to
you. But it was not the issue of a claimed election of Vice-Chairman, because that was the date the American Independent Party State Central
Committee voted to affiliate with the America’s
Independent Party of Fenton, Michigan as a national
party.
The Constitution Party is past history of the AIP.
Remember, the National Constitution Party last year
gave an award to Nancy Spirkoff (who’s term of office as State Chairperson of the AIP ended on August 1, 2006) who is for abortion of babies as the “mother’s choice”. The real question is why
the Constitution Party wants to honor a person that
is pro-choice?
THREE DATES DON, is now claiming that the State Central Comittee of the AIP had only 17 members
on June 27, 2008. That statment is a false claim,
by a man that state he was elected three times in
the same month, viz., June, 2008, as a bogus, Vice
Chairman. By Grundmann count the State Central
Committee qurom is nine. I see right through Grundmann here. He is trying to get the high lights of the State Central Committee meeting of
June 27, 2008, with out paying the $1,000 for my
work product.
Sincerely, Mark Seidenberg, Vice Chairman, American Independent Party
FEC in regards to…chelene nightingale for governor campaign. Your campaign donations to her are NOT tax deductible..I guess she will be “self” funded..for her campaign which means…she does not have to list donors or file with the election board.
I suppose if she receives anything over $500.00 she has to list that as income and file with the internal revenue.
hey, I want to run for an office!! lets see my qualifications hmm I breathe… I look decent in a business suit, I am not shy in crowds. I can sort of form good sentences..:0 I take a bath daily…lets see…what else..I have a trust fund! Oh I know…I can walk and chew gum at the same time…what do ya think??
To babe levine:
You need to look at the filing Nightingale did at the Los Angeles County Registrar of Voters. She
stated she was limiting her campaign financing in
the filing.
Sincerely, Mark Seidenberg, Vice Chairman, American
Independent Party
Limiting? only allowing??? Money from
Panda bears?? what exactly does that mean…?
Mark Seidenberg – I notice that you dont’t accept my debate challenge. This just proves my poitn that you are a liar and a coward.
Don J. Grundmann, D.C. Vice-Chairman American Independent Party, California branch of the Constitution Party
AIP candidate for United States Senate
To: THREE DATES DON Grundmann
To debate you is a waste of my time. I do not want
to be in the same room as you, because of your plans as stated in Phoenix, AZ, viz., “I will dance
on your grave.”
All I want from you is the $1,000 for my “work product”.
You need to explain to the readers on Ballot Access
News why you stated on different posting that you
were elected Vice Chairman of the AIP in June, 2008
on three different dates, viz., June 6, 2008; June 27, 2008; & June 29, 2008. What the election held
by the AIP State Central Committee was on July 6,
2008.
You also need to explain on how you came up with
the number of members of the State Central Committee of the AIP on June 27, 2008 was 17. when
you posted on a prior post you gave the number was only nine (9).
Sincerely, Mark Seidenberg, Vice Chairman, American
Independent Party.
Mark Seidenberg – 1) Your above post simply demonstrates that you are a coward and a complete and total liar who cannot defend your lies. 2) You know that the Central Committee membership number at the time of your crime was 17 which A) allowed a majority ( 9 ) of the Committee to call for convention AS WE DID according to the party by-laws; and B) means that the 5 people, including you, on your fake call were criminals to claim that a true disaffiliation vote was taken and especially criminals to file fake papers with the SOS office. 3) You know the dates of the Convention at which Jim King was elected Chairman. It is you who lie ( as usual ) about ” 3 dates.” Bottom line – you are a liar and a coward. You know that any debate would expose you for the liar that you are. May God damn you for your evil.
Don J. Grundmann, D.C. Vice-Chairman American Independent Party, California branch of the Constitution Party
AIP candidate for United States Senate
TO: Don Lake
THREE DATES DON will not explain his three dates on
how he claims to be elected Vice Chairman, viz., June 6, 2008, June 27, 2008, and June 29, 2008.
Grundmann make statements “You Know” when I do not
know. I have no idea what Grundmann means by “dates of the Convention” other than there where
three conventions that Grundmann claims he was elected at in June, 2008.
Grundmann is not the Vice Chairman of the American
Independent Party.
Sincerely, Mark Seidenberg, Vice Chairman, American
Independent Party
Markham Robinson is a good man. He will make California a far better place in he get elected
Governor.
= Then why did it take so long for him to start running for Governor? He jumped in at the last minute & he doesn’t seem to be generating the same amount of publicity that Nightingale is.
Nightingale, was a registered Republican just last
year. Let’s stop RINO Nightingale from her Hijack
of the AIP.
= Yet Markhem still has many GOP links on his website, why is that? I don’t see any on Nightengale’s.
And when we’re speaking about political hijacking, can you please explain Ed Noonan’s conduct during the 2008 Presidential Elections?
Don, the Chalcedon Foundation still is way too extreme and pro-Theocratic to be considered a modest and genuine Religious organization in my book- a LOT of those that tried to kick out the Nevada IAP had ties, or were extremely sympathetic to the CF.
So Mark, why don’t you guys have a lot of candidates running this year at all?
Cody,
Why are you writing to THREE DATES DON about IAP of
Nevada, he was the only member of the California
Delegation to Tampa that wanted to have the CP removed the IAP of Nevada?
As to the RINO Nightingale, She has RINO issues all
over her website. Rayna P. Mike-King was the “Republican Business Woman of the Year” 3 times. Cody, does not the NRCC meet your standards
as Republican?
It did not take him long to run for Governor, the
issue is why did Nightingale who was registered Republican in 2009, run for governor in the first
place as an AIPer? It is all part of the Hijackers
plan to try to take control of the AIP.
Sincerely, Mark Seidenberg, Vice Chairman, American Independent Party
hi, hey I read there is a “meet the candidate’s” lunch at the San Diego “sizzler”. Yum, ;0 the post says “all you can eat for under $10.00”
have a wonderful lunch with Chelene Nightingale and friends… I love the salad bar at sizzler…especially the wilted lettuce salad…(gourmet) what?
thats not wilted lettuce salad??? well,
well, what is it then? Excuse me…I don’t feel well…
babe levine
When, where, is that lunch. The price is fair, but
Nightingale there is the drawback. I would rather have lunch with Markham Robinson, he is not an airhead.
Sincerely, Mark Seidenberg, Vice Chairman, American
Independent Party.
P.S. AIP registration is up. Lassen County has AIP
highest registration at 4.46% of the registered votes in that county. Therefore, Lassen County
needs my organizational skills soon.
TO: Don Lake
These are the elector figures as of January 5, 2010
issue by the CA SOS. American Independent Party electors now stand at 382.380. The Libertarian party has 67,352 electors. The 3rd parties that
tried to quilify but failed had a total of 24,109
of which 23,757 were registered in the Reform Party. Left were the electors that affiliated with
3rd parties that made no atempt to quilify there
party. This included electors that affiliated with
the Constitution Party and total 71,701.
The Constitution Party needs to organize it’s self
and stop this hijack attempt of the AIP.
Sincerely, Mark Seidenberg, Vice Chairman, American
Independent Party
Why are you writing to THREE DATES DON about IAP of
Nevada, he was the only member of the California
Delegation to Tampa that wanted to have the CP removed the IAP of Nevada?
=Yet at least Don didn’t support the anti-Mormon rhetoric of the disaffiliation camp.
As to the RINO Nightingale, She has RINO issues all
over her website. Rayna P. Mike-King was the “Republican Business Woman of the Year†3 times. Cody, does not the NRCC meet your standards
as Republican?
= What issues would that be? And why does Markham still have GOP links on his website?
It did not take him long to run for Governor, the
issue is why did Nightingale who was registered Republican in 2009, run for governor in the first
place as an AIPer? It is all part of the Hijackers
plan to try to take control of the AIP.
= Why don’t you answer my question about Ed Noonan’s behavior during the 2008 Elections> Was there anything he did that was illegal at all?
The Constitution Party needs to organize it’s self
and stop this hijack attempt of the AIP.
The CP is a thousand times more organized the ‘America’s Independent Party’ and even elected candidates to office last year.
The cp is full of conspiracy theorist..its scary to watch….when people feel disenfrancised they start to “make up” reasons why they can’t have more power. After awhile, the paranoia grows and you have a real bomb ready to explode. The anger is misdirected self anger. People who feel they have no voice, will congregate
with others and thus you have a cult experience awaken. many many cults have started this way…its so scary to witness this….
Cody Quirk
You state the “CP is a thousand times more organized the ‘Americs’s Independent Party” and
even elected candidates to office last year’.
Then please explain why the CP is spending it time
with trying to hijact the American Independent Party from the AIP State Central?
How would I know if Ed Noonan did anything illegal? I am from Aliso Viejo in Orange County
and Noonan is up North in Linda. I am not aware
of Noonan doing thing illegal. I believe Ed Noonan is a good man.
Sincerely, Mark Seidenberg, Vice Chairman, American Independent Party.
P.S. What are you talking about “anti-Morman rhetoric on the disaffiation camp”? Why do you
think the executive committee of the CP gave an
award to Nancy Spirkoff who supports the killing
of babies that are unborn? Why did Nancy Spirkoff
leave the State Central Committee of the American
Independent Party on August 1, 2006? Why did Nancy
Spirkoff not tell the State Central Committee that
Mr. Banister moved to Nevada, so as of August 1,
2006 the AIP was without a Chairman and Vice Chairman?
Then please explain why the CP is spending it time
with trying to hijact the American Independent Party from the AIP State Central?
= Probably because the way you disaffiliated from the CP and selected Alan Keyes as your candidate is open to legal question, and a LOT of AIP’ers are pissed off.
How would I know if Ed Noonan did anything illegal? I am from Aliso Viejo in Orange County
and Noonan is up North in Linda. I am not aware
of Noonan doing thing illegal. I believe Ed Noonan is a good man.
= Yeah, sure Mark, Ed did nothing ‘illegal’ (wink wink!)(Sarcasm off).
So you back his claim that the CP never elected anybody to office, ever?
Why do you
think the executive committee of the CP gave an
award to Nancy Spirkoff who supports the killing
of babies that are unborn?
= Favoring exceptions is NOT ‘killing babies’, I favor exceptions in abortion too. And Nancy has been active in the Party since she was 18, and has done a lot of things for it. Even though I have not cared for a few things she has done before, she deserved that reward.
Cody Quirk,
What exceptions do you favor to the rights of the unborn babies? Did you know that each baby has its
own special DNA? Why do you believe that abortion
does not kill babies?
Sincerely, Mark Seidenberg, Vice Chairman, American Independent Party
What exceptions do you favor to the rights of the unborn babies? Did you know that each baby has its
own special DNA? Why do you believe that abortion
does not kill babies?
= Funny how I recall that you cast your vote against the IAP being kicked out at Tampa, despite Chris Hansen’s stance on abortion; he also favors exceptions too.
In fact I dare you to debate him on it.
If it relates to a tubal pregnancy, or a several fetal deformity that may take the mother’s life, or is too severe for the unborn child to even survive outside the womb, then damn right I favor exceptions.
If you are opposed to saving the mothers life when it is shown that the child’s life cannot be saved at all, then you are truly sick.
Cody Quark
You still have not answered the questions. Again:
1) Why do you believe that “abortions do not kill
babies”?
2)Did you know that each baby has its own special
DNA?
3)What are all you “exceptions” to protection the
life of unborn babies?
4}You state in post 41 that “damn right I favor
exception”, so what are the exception you favor?
Cody you also stated in post 41: “Funny how I recall that you cast your vote agaist IAP being
kicked out of Tampa, despite Chris Hensen’s
stance on abortion, he also favors exception too.”
I am informed of Chris Hansen’s views on abortions
and the rights of unborn babies. I am also informed of Barack Obama’s views on abortions and
killing children. So what, I want to know what Cody Quirk believe on the issue of the rights of
unborn babies, since they have their own special DNA?
Cody do you believe that all the people that casted
their vote at the Tampa, Florida Constitution Party meeting, from the American Independent Party delegation, on the issue of removing the Independent American Party of Nevada did so because
they supported Chris Hansen’s views on his faith vs. the rights of unborn babies?
I looked at that floor vote as the “pot calling the kettle black”, viz., how could I cast my vote as a National Committeeman of the American Independent Party against the good people of the Independent American Party over the personal
views of Chris Hansen, while my state chairperson
had a far more extreme views on abortion than Mr.
Hansen’s, viz., she was “pro-choice”. That goes
to the question of lip service by the 2009 executive committee of the Constitution Party on
giving an award (or as Cody Quark calls it a “reward” to Nancy Spirkoff (who is a major backer
of Chelene Nightingale for California Governor)
and a “pro-choice baby killer”.
Nancy Spirkoff was no longer chairman of the American Independent Party on August 1, 2006. Over
a month before the 2006 convention of the American
Independent Party in Sacramento County, California.
Yet when Ed Noonan became the AIP Chairman on September 3, 2006, she would not turn the party
records over to the new chairman. In fact, she
would not turn over the party records to the next
chairman either, viz., Markham Robinson.
Sincerely, Mark Seidenberg, Vice Chairman, American Independent Party
Listen to yourself Mark, not only did you misspell my name, but I already gave you may answer and you think I didn’t.
You know, I’ve been hearing from people that you’re mentally not there as much as you used to be. I hear you show up at a lot of the CP meetings uninvited and pester people- that’s not normal.
Maybe you need to get some help Mark, if you do have some sort of condition, then you need to get it treated immediately.
Hey if anyone is unstable is Ms. Nightingales campaign manager…lol this guy is loony tunes. I have read him attacking people on chat blogs cussing and ranting. Not professional in the slightest. If thats the Best Chelene Nightingale can dig up to represent her she is in dire shape. She should fire that slug. He does her campaign NO good. Several people I know Have been totally turned off from her campaign from reading his posts. They were considering her till then. Time to do some serious thinking.