ABC News/Washington Post Released July 17 Says Gary Johnson and Jill Stein Do Not Tilt Outcome

On July 17, an ABC News/Washington Post poll was released for the presidential election. It shows that the combined effect of Gary Johnson and Jill Stein in the race does not tilt the identity of the winner. When respondents are asked only about Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump, Clinton has 47% and Trump has 43%.

When Johnson and Stein are included, the results are: Clinton 42%, Trump 38%, Johnson 8%, Stein 5%. Thus, Clinton leads Trump by 4 percentage points, in a 2-way race or a 4-way race.


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ABC News/Washington Post Released July 17 Says Gary Johnson and Jill Stein Do Not Tilt Outcome — 11 Comments

  1. Any poll that doesn’t include Gary Johnson in initial questions is rigged and not valid. In some polls, even though rigged against him, has him at 13%. Media is trying to keep him out of the debates.

  2. If Darrell Castle gets on enough ballots to be viable, will he be included in the polls as well?

  3. The Tennessee independent presidential petition is just about the easiest independent presidential petition of any state, so I don’t feel it’s worth a separate blog post every time someone qualifies for president as an independent in Tennessee. Of course the petitioning chart in the August 1 2016 printed BAN will have the info as to who is now on in Tennessee for president. The deadline is August 18 and I’ll also have a blog post about who is on in Tennessee when the final list is known.

  4. In 1976 ballot access requirements were much more strict. For example, in Texas 16,000 signatures were required. But, you had to be a notary public in order to circulate those petitions. Texas did not make it. The LP did make it in 32 states. Since then barriers have been torn down. Millions have been spent doing so. Only now has a window of opportunity been opened. Not likely, but not impossible. Alaska elected a third party guy as Governor in 1990. Only showed 20% in the polls two weeks before the election. I was involved in that campaign.

  5. 42+38= a mere 80 percent voting for EVIL and Civil WAR II ??? Stay tuned.

    P.R. and nonpartisan App.V.

  6. But what is the impact at the state level given that electoral votes are what count? Could it be that in a particular state that the inclusion of Johnson, Stein (or both) changes the outcome?

  7. Eric – Sort of. Mostly Johnson and Stein just make the race closer, often to within the margin of error.

    A Greenberg Quinlan Rosner poll of New Hampshire from June 20th that had Hillary 51%, Trump 47% in a two-way race. When Johnson was added he picked up 10% and Clump were tied at 41%.

    A PPP poll of North Carolina from June 21 had Trump 48%, Hillary 46% in a two-way race. In a 4-way race Johnson had 4%, Stein 2%, and Clump are tied at 43%.

    A Greenberg Quinlan Rosner poll of Ohio from June 20th had Trump 48%, Hillary 47% in a two way race. When Johnson is added he picks up 14% and Clump are tied at 41%.

    There are three polls from Ohio where Clump are tied in two-way polls, but including Johnson and Stein breaks the tie, twice towards Hillary and once towards Trump.

    Quinnipiac, July 11, Clump are tied at 41% two-way, but in a 4-way Johnson gets 7%, Stein 6%, Hillary 36%, and Trump 37%.

    NBC/Wall Street Journal, July 10, Clump are tied at 39% two-way, but in a 4-way Johnson gets 9%, Stein 3%, Trump 35%, and Hillary 38%.

    Qunnipiac, June 19, Clump are tied at 40% two-way, but in a 4-way Johnson gets 8%, Stein gets 3%, Trump gets 35%, and Hillary gets 38%.

  8. LOTS of time left for the ANTI-Democracy gerrymander monsters in many States to rig the Electoral College much more — i.e. 1 E.C. Vote in the various USA Rep. gerrymander districts–

    i.e. in States where one gang totally controls the State regime.

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