Oregon House Passes National Popular Vote Plan Bill

On May 24, the Oregon House passed HB 2927, the National Popular Vote Plan bill. The vote was 34-23. Now it goes to the Senate, where the president of the Senate says he won’t block it, as he has done in past sessions, provided it is amended so that it won’t take effect unless the voters approve. They would vote in November 2018.


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Oregon House Passes National Popular Vote Plan Bill — 11 Comments

  1. This is nothing more than a backdoor attempt to abolish the Electoral College and have Democrat-dominated states like New York and California determine who our next President would be. This dates back to the “sturm und drung” in the aftermath of the 2000 election.

  2. In 2016, New York state and California Democrats together cast 9.7% of the total national popular vote.

    California & New York state account for 16.7% of the voting-eligible population

    Alone, they could not determine the presidency.

    In total New York state and California cast 16% of the total national popular vote

    In total, Florida, Texas, and Pennsylvania cast 18% of the total national popular vote.
    Trump won those states.

    The vote margin in California and New York wouldn’t have put Clinton over the top in the popular vote total without the additional 60 million votes she received in other states.

    In 2004, among the four largest states, the two largest Republican states (Texas and Florida) generated a total margin of 2.1 million votes for Bush, while the two largest Democratic states generated a total margin of 2.1 million votes for Kerry.

    New York state and California together cast 15.7% of the national popular vote in 2012.
    About 62% Democratic in CA, and 64% in NY.

    New York and California have 15.6% of Electoral College votes. Now that proportion is all reliably Democratic.

    Under a popular-vote system CA and NY would have less weight than under the current system because their popular votes would be split among candidates.

  3. The four largest states, the two largest Republican states (Texas and Florida) generated a total margin of 2.1 million votes for Bush, while the two largest Democratic states generated a total margin of 2.1 million votes for Kerry.

  4. The National Popular Vote bill is 61% of the way to guaranteeing the majority of Electoral College votes and the presidency to the candidate who receives the most popular votes in the country, by changing state winner-take-all laws (not mentioned in the U.S. Constitution, but later enacted by 48 states), without changing anything in the Constitution, using the built-in method that the Constitution provides for states to make changes.

    All voters would be valued equally in presidential elections, no matter where they live.

    Since 2006, the bill has passed 35 state legislative chambers in 23 rural, small, medium, large, red, blue, and purple states with 261 electoral votes.
    The bill has been enacted by 11 small, medium, and large jurisdictions with 165 electoral votes – 61% of the way to guaranteeing the presidency to the candidate with the most popular votes in the country

  5. Bob,

    I know…why would we actually want the people in our country to directly elect their president?!

    Crazy!!!!

  6. What Court ever said legislatures could direct their electoral votes in the first place? If that was supposed to be allowed, wouldn’t the Constitution just say the legislatures shall cast the votes, istead of saying the electors shall do the voting?

  7. Ray,

    No court ever said the legislatures could direct their electrical votes.

    It is the US Constitution that says the legislature can!!!

  8. Article II, Section 1
    “Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors….”

    In 1789, in the nation’s first election, a majority of the states appointed their presidential electors by appointment by the legislature or by the governor and his cabinet, the people had no vote for President in most states, and in states where there was a popular vote, only men who owned a substantial amount of property could vote, and only three states used the state-by-state winner-take-all method to award electoral votes.

    In the nation’s first presidential election in 1789 and second election in 1792, the states employed a wide variety of methods for choosing presidential electors, including
    ● appointment of the state’s presidential electors by the Governor and his Council,
    ● appointment by both houses of the state legislature,
    ● popular election using special single-member presidential-elector districts,
    ● popular election using counties as presidential-elector districts,
    ● popular election using congressional districts,
    ● popular election using multi-member regional districts,
    ● combinations of popular election and legislative choice,
    ● appointment of the state’s presidential electors by the Governor and his Council combined with the state legislature, and
    ● statewide popular election.

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